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Flopp I agree 100%, this will they or won't they crap is for the birds. Mayber Manny could borrow the dough from Money May to pay Arum off and buyout his contract, crazy huh? But just a thought.

It's been an "excuse of the day" from Top Rank every day since May called Manny out.  Just like it was starting the day May called Arum's bluff and signed the contract Arum put in front of him with all of Top Ranks stipulations in 2009.  Excuse excuse excuse.  Manny had a cut and my son in law says he shouldn't spar until after Floyd goes to jail... May doesn't leave enough time to promote the fight...  The venue is too small, Manny needs more money if he's going to fight you so we need a bigger venue... We aren't sure who we need to contact to negotiate a fight with Floyd...  I don't negotiate through the media, but hey, Media, tell Floyd he has until Saturday to agree to a fight in June or else we are going fight JMM again...   blah blah blah... Top Rank, either fight or say you don't want to fight, it's that simple.  Floyd signed the contract 2 years ago, has been waiting for you ever since, and you still won't answer his call, so just crawl back in your hole and stop pretending you might take the challenge, it just makes you look stupid and foolish the more excuses you come up with, and it tarnishes a good fighters (Manny's) legacy in the process.

We have always known why Manny lets Bob run every aspect of his career, that doesn't mean it's the coreect decision.  Manny obviouslt needs help with his financial decisions, unfortunately he looks to the wrong people to help him with those decisions. 

 Arum runs ONE aspect of Manny's career, which happens to be the most profitable aspect, boxing.  Arum has no control over what Manny does in P.I. as far as congress, movies, albums, etc.  Manny went from rags to riches in a matter of years, so of course he's going to need help with his finances...especially when your dealing with the MILLIONS.  It's pretty much expected from a guy with no formal education, coming from a 3rd world country, and gets punched in the head for a living. 

I didn't believe this at first, because I just don't see Manny spending $$ like that.  But now this actually does make a lot of sense because both Arum and Koncz have probably been shaving millions off the profits that should be going to Manny.  Here's an article I found talking about the situation.  ARUM is a cold hustler.  I'm surprised nobody has OFF'd this guy yet!!

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 Ok, after reading this article, tells me Manny is a fool for not jumping up and down trying to get a fight with Floyd done. He obviously needs the money, and there is potential for a re-match or even rubber match depending on the outcomes. Maybe Arum comes up a dollar or two short having to deal with GBP, but good grief this is beyond comprehenshion. manny ought to fight Mayweather, get his cut, then turn around and sue Boss Hogg for stealing from him. Well, it's like they say, you deal with the devil.....

Wow, Dawgs, I'm impressed you figured out how to use google and sought out some information before you speak.  It's refreshing.  You and I agree that Manny has been getting "skimmed" off the top by Arum and Koncz to the point where he is not making remotely what people assume he is making.  Arum keeps giving him "advances" as a way to make Manny think he is making money, but all it does is keep him in Arums pocket.  It's disgusting how these guys have been siphoning Manny's money.  He has to look at how guys like Floyd and DeLaHoya live a life of ridiculous luxury now compared to the way they lived when Arum was running their career and say WTF****!?  Where is my money?!  But somehow Arum and Koncz keep the wool pulled over his eyes.


A new interview with Freddie Roach came out today where he literally called many of Arum's excuses not to fight bogus. He said the "cut" excuse Arum kept using to avoid the May 5th date is complete BS. It's nice to see Roach step up and call Arum out as well.  Hopefully it turns into something eventually.  The more people who once supported Bob Arums BS start calling him out on it the better it is for everyone.  The media has finally caught on to the fact it's Arum who has been running from the fight, now Roach is calling him out too.  Let's hope Manny and the P.I. realize Arum is treating Manny like a puppet and call him out too. 

Dawgs, me too was surprised about his financial problems and did not believe GRR when he mentioned that in one his posts here until I read an article today that he is now in the midst of "public image makeover" and has to now turn to "renewing his relationship with God" in repairing his reputation.  I was not aware that it was that bad. Who knows, on top of getting rid of his evils within himself, he may even get rid of the "evils around him". 

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Good work Dawgs and Chargers.  Thanks for researching things instead of just believing the company line and BS being spewed from Top Rank.  Bob Arum really is the devil, and the more you guys buy his BS, the more you allow him to keep pulling the wool over everybody's eyes.


Even Manny's quotes lately don't sound like Manny.  They are obviously being spoon fed to him by Arum.  It's disgusting. 

I don't rely on google, because most of the stuff that comes up is BS from unreliable sources.  I stick to more viable sources like ESPN and a few boxing websites.  But when I google something, if it's on the first page I read it.  I don't have the time and/or patience to research through things until I find what you are talking about.  I googled "Pacquiao going broke" and it came up with a few articles and the first one I read was the one I posted.  It made a lot of sense to me.  The quote from Roach that you and somebody else mentioned before sounded like something that was taken out of context and did not provide the entire article, which many online websites do.  Tabloids basically. 

Regardless, I have never bought in to Arum's B.S.  All my opinions are based off things that come from Manny himself.  Anybody he believes a guy who openly admits lying is a damn fool!  As far as I'm concerned, Manny wants the fight with Floyd.  Maybe he doesn't want to subject himself to blood testing the day of the fight, but everything I've heard from Manny himself suggests he wants to fight him.  But Arum is prolonging the fight because he knows he can make easily millions against just about anybody he wants.

Mayweather and De La Hoya are both Americans.  Both grew up in this country and in boxing.  Floyds dad and uncle were world class boxers who knew the in's and out's of the business.  Compared to Manny, who comes from a 3rd world country, has no formal education, no understanding of contracts etc. and just has to take the word of whatever is told to him.  Manny is an easy target.  It's like the movies you see where people around him are trying to tell him Arums's stealing, but Manny doesn't want to believe it because Arum's such a 2 faced snake and has Manny believing that he has his best intrests in mind.

I think the world of boxing will be so much better when Arum is gone.

Just so you know, ESPN and respected boxing web sites come up on Google searches as well. LOL

It's tough to say you don't buy into Arum's BS and just go by what Manny says, because lately Manny is just spewing out regurgitated quotes from Arum.  I'm not sure Manny even understands what's going on with the whole thing, to be honest with you.  I truly believe he only gets his info from Arum, so it's hard to make an informed comment based on the person giving you the news... 

I was never an Arum fan, either.  And we all agree that he is the one making Manny look bad.  So, what needs to be done?  Get rid of the devil.  It's Manny's call.  He's got to step and shut Arum's mouth.  Manny may not be able to do it by himself but his whole country is behind him.  We are all behind him.  We invented people empowerment.  If we can depose a long-time dictator with people power, we can get rid of Arum.

Just so you know, ESPN and respected boxing web sites come up on Google searches as well. LOL

Yeah, on the issues that are concrete.  But things like Floyd agreeing to a 50/50 split, not so concrete.  I have yet to find anything that says it.

It's tough to say you don't buy into Arum's BS and just go by what Manny says, because lately Manny is just spewing out regurgitated quotes from Arum.  I'm not sure Manny even understands what's going on with the whole thing, to be honest with you.  I truly believe he only gets his info from Arum, so it's hard to make an informed comment based on the person giving you the news... 

Arum's the one who said that Manny wouldn't have a problem with the blood testing the first time around.  It's obvious he has no interest in any of his fighters, other than what he can gain from them financially.  If he did, then he would've known from the Morales fight that Manny had a problem with giving blood before a fight.  Arums the one who said Manny was scared of needles.  Arums the one who said he's giving Manny the choice between JMM, Floyd, and Bradley...when in reality, he's chosen his opponent who, surprise surprise...is a Top Rank fighter! Arums the one who said Manny has a cut that won't heal by May 5th.  Just about every excuse is coming from Arum or Koncz, which makes complete sense now that all this is coming to light.

At this point, Manny does need Arum if he's in a financial hole.  He's not in a position to leave Top Rank and do things on his own.  If he was, I'm sure this fight would have been made already.

Ok, after reading this article, tells me Manny is a fool for not jumping up and down trying to get a fight with Floyd done. He obviously needs the money, and there is potential for a re-match or even rubber match depending on the outcomes.

I've been saying this from the beginning...make the fight with an automatic re-match clause.  Manny loses, he has a chance to redeem himself.  Even if it's a lopsided loss...people will still pay to see the 2 top fighters in the world go at it again.  Vice versa if Floyd loses.  And if it's a split, like you said, a rubber match!  If Floyd dominates first 2, then he goes down as one of the greatest of ALL TIME, not just of this era.  In the end, no matter he gets most of the cut, all sides will come out more profitable than they would fighting anybody else.  Both guys have 2 maybe 3 fights left.

All this back and forth BS is just killing the luster of the fight.

Stop posting Dawgs.  We have agreed on things far too often today.  It's confusing me.

You like Floyd, I like Manny.  But we both agree to hate Arum.  I guess Pimp_C was right...it's been Arum this whole time playing games and strategically keeping this fight from happening so soon.  Of course, both Floyd and Manny have to take some blame as well.  But I think it's hard not to say that Arum is the primary source to blame.  No wonder he keeps everything in house...it's easier to cover up the faulty contracts and purses!

But if you ask me, Arum's walking a tight rope if he's trying to milk Manny for every last drop.  Either Manny's going to stop fighting or he could lose to a lesser opponent and completely deflate all the air out of the fight the worlds been waiting for the last 2 years!

Teddy Atlas had it right tonight.  If Manny faces Floyd, everybody knows it will shatter records.  Each fighter will make 60 Million because everything is out in the open and both fighters deserve that cash.  The way it is now, Arum can promise manny 20 Mil, pay one of the Top Rank has beens that Manny has been fighting 5 Million, and keep all the rest for himself without really having to reveal all the revenue. Both fighters are happy with their great payday, and Arum walks away with twice as much as both of them.  That can't happen with the Megafight, because everything will have to be above board since 2 promotional companies will be involved to split the profit. You can't hide profits and money when the books are required to be open. 


I hope we all feel stupid for ever blaming Floyd or Manny for this fight not happening.  It seems so obvious now what the problem has been... but we were all blinded a bit by all the excuses and accusations... All the "Bob Arum Smoke And Mirrors" as Oscar De La Hoya put it today.



One good thing to come of this, at least I rarely have to read the pathetic excuse about how "scared" Floyd Mayweather is anymore.  The only people who believe that have no clue about the realities of boxing. It's so good to see all the boxing professionals finally call Bob out on his lies.  It's been a long time coming.

to be honest with you based on mannys last two fights.....especially the one with marquez which i think he lost and looked terrible floyd will beat him and it ain't gonna be close or pretty....he has been getting hit way too much as it seems that he always leads with his face and has looked very sloppy.....at this point manny has nothing to gain by fighting mayweather except a loss and that is why arum is playing all these head games.