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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 3:25 am

There comes a point when fans can be TOO supportive. I contend that this group of Tarheel players aren't the only ones sleepwalking through this season. It seems to me on various message boards that I've been to that UNC fans are also asleep.

What's the deal guys? Weren't we supposed to be the favorites this year? Weren't we Preseason #1? Wasn't there talk of possibly going undefeated and maybe having one of our best seasons ever?

If you take the expectations of each school and compare it to the results I'd say that we are BY FAR the most disappointing college basketball team so far this year.

WHY ARE MORE PEOPLE NOT UPSET? WHERE IS THE OUTCRY??

We should at least demand effort. And we weren't given an ounce of effort in that disgraceful loss to Florida State. We showed zero heart, zero passion. But that's how we have played all season.

I can accept not being as talented as we had hoped. That happens. Maybe we just aren't very good. But what I can't accept is that our players have given up. It's as if they realized that they can't just show up and win with hype and that it actually takes effort, but they aren't willing to do that. Many of the guys on this team seem to already have one foot in the NBA. There is no urgency, no focus. They aren't "in the moment" at any time during the games this year. It's very upsetting to me.

And I blame a lot of it on Roy. I think the difference between Roy & Coach K is that Roy is simply not very demanding of his players. He allows complacency to exist because he is too laid back. There is NO WAY a Coach K team would EVER allow his team to come out after being completely embarrassed in the first half only to be more greatly embarrassed in the 2nd half. NO FREAKING WAY!!! He would have chewed their butts in the locker room and they would have come out blazing in the 2nd half, slapping the floor, diving for loose balls, moving everywhere on defense.

But not this team. Nope. They showed they are a bunch of lazy cowards.

Not one player on this team has been consistent this year. Other than a few new post moves by John Henson, there is not a single aspect of ANY returning player that has improved since last season. In fact, in most cases they have digressed. Marshall is sloppy and has an even worse outside shot now. Barnes is even more timid and unwilling to drive to the bucket. He's a glorified jump shooter. Strickland is even more of a waste of space. Henson & Zeller should be more dominant as upper classmen, but have been pushed around by younger players all season.

And EVERY player has gotten worse on the defensive end this year. Unfortunately the freshman have all been huge disappointments too. So much for highly ranked recruits.

We have not had an impressive game yet. The games we have won have been against patsies. And we've lost every game that we've been challenged. That's what teams with no heart do. They are all playing for themselves. There is no team unity or togetherness. They play as if they all just met 5 minutes before the game started. There is no chemistry.

This team is the epitomy of a team simply going through the motions without any apparent goal that they are striving after.

We play a desperate Virginia Tech team at their place in a couple days. Virginia Tech is hungry for their first conference win of the season. And they smell blood after watching UNC the other day. I guarantee the Hokies are going to be playing with their hearts on their sleeve.

Some things in sports are way too easy to predict. Knowing what I know about these UNC players and Roy Williams, I know that they aren't putting in the time or the effort to improve. I know that they can't win if the other team is strongly motivated. They can only win games when "going through the motions" will be good enough.

I GUARANTEE that the Heels will lose to the Hokies. How do I know? Simple. This team is completely void of heart. After the embarrassment of their last game you would think that they would want nothing more than to redeem themselves and their fans in their next game. But they simply don't care. They have checked out.

I don't think we were nearly as talented as we all though. But regardless, the fact that we aren't even trying is what really bothers me. After watching the preseason #1 team get crushed by 33 points and not even be bothered by it....well....I'll never be able to respect UNC or Roy Williams again. They lost my trust.

We are all witnessing the most disappointing season in North Carolina Tarheels history.

shoktart
SinceAug 16, 2006
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 2:11 pm

knew ur wack ass would make a stupid post.....everytime we lose u act like u on ur monthly. And when we win, ur no where to be found. SO when we scrape vtech by 20, u wont be no where to be found again, and come back and bleed somemore when we lose after a 10 game winning strak we about to have. U and jigga are str8 suckas
coolazzice
SinceAug 1, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 4:40 pm

Coudn't have said it better coolazzice. It's so stupid to freak out over 1 game, especially when regular season games arent that big of a deal. Tourney time is what matters, not a blowout loss to Fla State. If anything it will help this team and embarass them. This end of the world crap everytime we lose is childish and is a complete overreaction. When UNC loses shoktart and jigga act like women and flip the heell out over 1 loss. I guess we r supposed to go undefeated every season to make them happy.
TarHeel-Vol
SinceNov 30, 2010
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 4:44 pm

and after we scrape some ranked team during the season and in the tourney they will still talk about this blowout loss. I admit i was pissed about the loss and thought we played weak as hell too, but to say that we are weak and lose to vtech.....str8 suckas
coolazzice
SinceAug 1, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 6:52 pm

If anything, I say UNC plays one of their best games season to date tomorrow night at Va Tech.  I know Va Tech is trying for that 1st win in conference play, but UNC should and I think will come out to show last saturday is behind them.  UNC has a problem getting motivated sometimes and we have so much talent, we have a tendacy to think showing up will suffice, but what a wake up call FSU delivered.  I think the loss will help us in the long run, I don't particularly like a 33 point ass whipping to drive home the point, but hopefully we will respond.  The whole national title talk will be a tough sell considering no title team has lost during the regular season by 30 + points.  UNC lost by 26 to Wake Forest in 1993 and we all know who won that NCAA title.  UNC is too talented not to be able to win 6 games come NCAA tourney time............Get ready heels fans, we will respond!
wcuheels12
SinceNov 4, 2010
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 8:41 pm

Is this guy ^^^^ stupid?  Shocktart I am referring to...Most disappointing season ever?  What do you call 2010-2011...what about the year we won 8 games?  This is by far better than those years. 
Bulls_Life
SinceMay 13, 2010
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 18, 2012 9:03 pm

My 2 cents:

We will beat up on V Tech tomorrow night. To be honest, and this may sound odd, but I look at that Florida State embarrassment as a blessing in disguise. Sometimes a great team needs to get whooped to have a fire lit within. I just dont see too many technical issues with this team..Yeah, free throw shooting needs work..And perimeter defense..(Every team in the nation has some flaws).. But the talent and depth is there, and my only problem with that loss was the effort. They played with no intensity. That can be fixed. I think guys like Henson, Zeller, and Barnes actually care a lot.. I dont see them as guys thinking about the NBA.. If that was the case, they would have left after last season. They came back to win a title. Im sure their pride will kick in.. Im very sure they are not happy about that ugly loss. Now Im not quite sure why they have been sleepwalking so far, which is actually one thing Shotkart was right about, but I believe they can turn on the switch to dominate mode. I will make a comparison to MMA.. One of my favorite fighters, Forrest Griffin, is known as a slow starter, and admits that he gets going in fights after he gets punched in the face a few times.. Our boys took one on the chin Saturday, and I believe that will get them going. V Tech is in for a rude awakening. UNC: 91 V Tech: 70.

Medinahccpro
SinceJan 12, 2010
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 9:30 am


This team will be fine. No doubt. Why is it you only see some of these posters when we loose???

 Undecided
Enrico Fermi
SinceJan 12, 2012
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 10:20 am

There is NO WAY a Coach K team would EVER allow his team to come out after being completely embarrassed in the first half only to be more greatly embarrassed in the 2nd half. NO FREAKING WAY!!! He would have chewed their butts in the locker room and they would have come out blazing in the 2nd half, slapping the floor, diving for loose balls, moving everywhere on defense.



How did that work out for dook against St Johns  or OSU ?   
TARSKIN
SinceMar 12, 2011
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 11:08 am

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Dreezymac
SinceMar 27, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 12:35 pm

Taking a poll whose more annoying shoktart or Tyson. My vote shoktart atleast with Tyson he bring some reason even tho its all about dook and hating unc. My advice shoktart is to post more often....not when UNC losses because that's easy to run away with ya UNC empire is crumbling and were going back to the early 2000s days. Trust me I'm mad about the loss but we all know Roy is a top recruiter but average x's-o's coach. But this team will respond and Roy probably had the running till their legs ran from their body and quit. It's not over calm down yea I have major concerns but were still the top dog in the acc we just have to work on these annoying weakness
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 1:37 pm

I see you still peek on the UNC board huh Tyson lol. Its all good figure if i drop your name you would say something.It will be interesting duke vs UNC will be very very code lose bc duke can exploit UNC weakness and vice versa. I still think UNC or duke takes it this year UVA is a serious dark horse to take the title.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 1:49 pm

After some of the posts you've had over the past few seasons tyson, nobody will forget your name for a while.  And shoktart is going far beyond demanding effort, which is what everyone hates about his posts. He basically predicts the end of the UNC basketball program every other week.

Legit question though tyson - what is Duke's best line-up this year? Seems like Curry as PG isn't as effective as everyone thought it could be, so curious as to what your thoughts are.

As for shoktart, it's time for you to start being held accountable for this crap.  Seeing as you are so confident that North Carolina loses tonight, how about we make this interesting:

- If North Carolina wins, you won't make another doomsday post all season
- If North Carolina loses, I won't say a thing about any additional doomsday post you make all season

Deal?  It's times like these that the anonymity of the internet pisses me off, because if these comments were being made face to face, I could at least try to smack the stupid out of you...
canuck23
SinceSep 12, 2006
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 2:19 pm

It's times like these that the anonymity of the internet pisses me off, because if these comments were being made face to face, I could at least try to smack the stupid out of you...

Truth.

...and since we're talking about Duke, I dont think Curry is the problem. I think Austin Rivers is the issue. Duke goes as he goes and Rivers takes a lot of shots, some unecessary. It's the curse of having a known one and done...he's trying too hard to play for the scouts. That and the fact the Plumblees are actually producing regularly which is not Duke's game. Anytime a Plumblee(s) leads scoring for the team, you can expect the game to go to the wire or a loss.
Dreezymac
SinceMar 27, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 2:41 pm

Deal?  It's times like these that the anonymity of the internet pisses me off, because if these comments were being made face to face, I could at least try to smack the stupid out of you...    


Really? Getting this worked up over a game? Its one thing to be rational about a team you follow but to threaten violence over opinion posted in a forum? There is medication and support groups for that kind of behavior. Why can't SOME of you just realize and rationalize this team is not as good as once thought? I'm saying they don't reach the "promised land" this year, hell I'm predicting a second round exit, does that mean SOME of you are ready w/the bats & chains ready for a beatdown? Come on, back away from the stimulants and take some prozac.   
realbluefan1
SinceNov 10, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 4:01 pm

Ugh, way to take a smart-ass comment literally. I'm not actually seeking to resort to violence realbluefan1, it's just dumb how people can hide behind an internet screen-name and spew the ridiculousness that shoktart does on a continual basis.  You do realize this is the same person who predicted the downfall of UNC as a premier college basketball program right?

This kind of non-sense is a lot less likely to happen during a face to face conversation, because nobody could take you seriously with this stuff...
canuck23
SinceSep 12, 2006
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 5:06 pm

Maaaaaan...some of yall are a trip......i can see folks being pissed about getting our ass kicked....but to say that we are weak, and second round exits????Acting like this team aint talented. Only thing i do agree with is that they only play when motivated and that pisses me off. Ill tell u this, if we win by dub tonight, i will be happy and pissed because im glad they played to their potential, but why only do it  when ur pissed?

But on the real, some of u posters cant really be fans of the tar heels....worst team ever...fire roy williams....we  are crap....1st and second round exits...get beat by vtech???? Only way i would say yall are real fans is u come on here after we scrap the teams and admit that u are wrong....but to go into hiding and only come out when we lose after we just had a 10 game streak......either u are really a duke fan or just some troll on here for attention.
coolazzice
SinceAug 1, 2009
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 5:07 pm

The problem is a lot of y'all forget this is college basketball not college football where every loss can doom a seasons hopes or postseason location. You can screw your whole season up make a run in the conference tourney and get into the big dance. Why am I stating the obvious because freaking out over 1-4 losses is a waste their gonna happen because it's impossible to get up for every game undefeated seasons are to do. Yes UNC has big weakness yes they aren't playing up to the hype... But the seasons not over and I don't want my team to peek now I rather happen in march. Guys lose credibility when they start talking about doom to the baby blue empire.... REALLY??? LOl have you seen the next class coming in? Everyone has a right to their own opinion but this end of times post are simply silly. UNC will be fine yes the bigs are playing soft so was zoubek when duke made that run of how talented Syracuse is every as is uk and have no titles to show for it. I rather get exposed now and slapped n punched then get flashed KO in late feb and have confidence issues in march. UNC will learn from this Roy was utterly embarrassed and so was the team
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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Heels sleepwalking through season is a disgrace!

January 19, 2012 5:11 pm

thank u....these guys act as if they can tell the future and lose the rest of their games....like the game against unlv...they said we would get blown out by wisc....and didnt come abck until we lost to ky.....only game im concerned when we lose is vs dook, conf toruney and real tourney
coolazzice
SinceAug 1, 2009