Lakers don't make the playoffs?

Is it possible for the Lakers to not make the playoffs this year? They can't win on the road. No point guard and Kobe is playing way too much.

As of tonight they are sitting in 10th place. Utah, Memphis and Denver and the LA Clippers are much improved and Dallas and San Antonio and Portland and Oklahoma are all strong. There bench is very lean and some of the players are getting long in the tooth. If they make a trade then all bets are off but if they play out the year with this line-up then i think there is a strong possibility that they will fall short of the playoffs.

Lakers will make they playoffs.  They likely will do as they did last year however....lose first round.  They didn't get better this year...in fact they got worse.  Kobe is older and still shooting ALOT even if he isn't playing well.  They have no depth to speak of.

It is highly likely Lakers will trade anyone but Kobe to obtain Howard.  Likely Magic with get Pau, Howard, and Morris....while Lakers will pick up Howard and Hedo.  This will not make Lakers any better.  However, next year, when they get rid of Mike Brown and sign Deron Williams; they will be back to competing in the West.

This year, even with trades, I see nothing more than playoffs and a first round exit.

The key question is simple:  Do they give up on Kobe now?  They should.  I realize Kobe was their franchise...but right now, he isn't offering anything.  In his prime, he could carry the team to the playoffs with his shooting.  Right now his shooting stinks.  YET...there are tons of teams that will trade alot to obtain him.  If I were the Lakers, I'd pull the trigger.  Now I'm not sure what restrictions exist....but I'd do my best to get Howard and Deron....(we know Deron will sign where Howard does).....then I'd start getting rid of the old and bringing in the new.  This year, they will still be a playoff team and lose in first round...with or without Kobe.

Time for Lakers to build for immediate future, NOW.

So much wrong with Whoosh's post. And before I tear it apart, we will make the playoffs, but I agree we are not title contenders this year.


I didn't know we lost to the Hornets in the first round last year just like we are supposed to win this year. That really sucks to lose to Chris Paul and then have a trade voided to get Chris Paul.


Jim Buss would sell his left kidney before trading Pau and Bynum for Howard, its not happening. Its going to Bynum and picks for Howard or nothing.


Kobe's shooting does not stink. Kobe Bryant RIGHT NOW is the MVP of the NBA. Hes the only guy that shows up every game for the Lakers. Pau is playing like a sissy SF and Kobe's in the paint more than Pau is. Bynum takes games off when he doesn't get his touches (partially Kobe's fault). And then we have our bench that is absolutely awful. The problem on this team is not Kobe, not even close. Kobe and the teams defense is the only good thing going for them right now.


If we did trade for Dwight Howard, we wouldn't be able to sign Derron Williams in the offseason, we will still be way way way over the cap. The only way we can get Dwight or Derron is through a trade, or somehow but very unlikely a sign and trade this summer. If Derron and Dwight make it to free agency this summer they are going to be with the Mavs. If they get traded the Lakers are the only team with the worthwhile pieces to acquire them.             

so you would give the MVP to a guy who's team isnt the playoffs right now??? typical laker fan.


Of course he is leading the league in scoring. He scores what .7 more points than lebron on 5+ more shots?? Not exactly the most impressive stat in the world. Especially why you look at lebron's fg% rebs assists stls and blks. And the fact that the Heat are 5-1 in games lebron plays without wade.


Or durant would have to be the other choice right now. but kobe is a longshot.     

I Still think they make the Playoffs. But probably don't get homecourt, and probably lose in the first round.
 The Lakers are old,
 They have no PG,
 They have no bench,
 Pau is soft (has been his whole career). He can't carry a team.  
Kobe is Injured, Or at least he will be by playoff time if he keeps playing 40 minutes a night.


As for the Kobe for MVP argument. HAHAHAHAHA Delirious laker Fans

Leborn averages more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks. he averages the same in points but shoots 5 less times per game than Kobe. Also his team is better, The Heat have a winning record, one of the best in the league. The Lakers will be lucky to get to five hundred. I Could Name 5 Players right Now who are more deserving of the MVP than Kobe.

Trying to make an argument for anybody besides Lebron for MVP is foolish at this point. I'm sure people are still gonna try to do it, but i doubt those people actually watch the Games. If they did it'd be impossible to deny how dominant Lebron is.

Kobe Bryant is not the MVP of this young season.  Kobe Bryant is playing his tail off, but he's not very efficient or selective with his shot attempts and, as a result, he's as much to blame for the Lakers struggle as he is for the Lakers' succeses.  Onto this post, this is a ridiculous question.  The Lakers will get it together, they'll eventually get back to the top of the division and they'll have home court at least in the first round.  Anything past that isn't guaranteed but the Lakers will be there.  When Kobe Bryant stops shooting 30 times a game and gets Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum going, they'll be even better. 

Yes, the Kobe for MVP argument is foolish.  Although, if you watch ESPN they are on his jock as much as the Laker fans.  Unable to see reality through all the points (and shot attempts).  LOL   Although even Kobe shooting 45% isn't horrible...but the fact he fails to bring along his teammates is where Kobe is hurting his team the most.  Against Miami and Kobe played himself vs Lebron and stunk up the court.  Instead of taking full advantage of Bynum and Gasol who are clear advantages over anything Miami has.  Then those guys barely showed up vs Magic...after getting their butts handed to him.  Heck, Howard outplayed Gasol, Bynum, and Kobe all by himself.  So if any Laker fan thinks they will get Howard for Bynum is seriously messed up.  LOL

And yeah, I forgot that LA played a team before they got swept by Dallas.  My bad.  So this year will be worse than last year, as they will lose 1st round.  LOL  I also do not see LA as a top four team or having any sort of HCA.  In fact, it looks like the Clips will be the division winner.  Amazing to even hear that out loud...isn't it.  Although I do like the Clips and their team...and they just seem to get better each game and they are without Paul.  Amazing really.

Wonder why LA didn't try to obtain Billups?  OR any sort of replacement for the lost Brown and the old Fisher?  You can blame Stern and CP3 trade issue..and although you have a beef...it didn't prevent you from making smarter future decisions.  Like I don't know...not giving up Odom for nothing and trying to obtain a PG or SOMETHING that will help your team. I mean "come on man".

And if LA thinks they are getting Bynum for Howard, straight up...they are dreaming.  They will lose Howard and Deron to the Nets...and there is no way LA will let that happen.  They aren't stupid.  Give it up.  Trade Kobe for great talent.  Move on.

No question, Lebron is MVP.  Course he was last year too and he lost the award to Rose...who wasn't half what Lebron was.  So this year, if the hate remains for Lebron, I suspect Durant will finally get it (who should have gotten it last year over Rose).....

Whoosh thinks the Lakers should give up on Kobe but he hasnt given up on T Mac who has never been any good.

Lakers are toast, period, end of story. 

Maybe that way the haters may wanna focus on other teams and leave their obsession on Kobe and Lakers behind.  Of course, the posts for other teams/players will be reduced to a bare minimum but give it a try.

Of course, the posts for other teams/players will be reduced to a bare minimum but give it a try.

I'd love to talk about other teams but you're entirely right that those who comment on the Lakers are at such polar opposites of the spectrum that them so enticing to talk about.

Go, dont get me wrong, there are some games where Kobe is shooting too much, but there are some games where he have to shoot a lot just to get the Lakers a chance to win. For an example, against the Magic, JVG was calling the game and he was talking about how Kobe need to take all these shots because the rest of the team was struggling. He also said he had a convo with Kobe about the stat how when he shoot more, they have a worst record. Kobe then said, before you just look at the stat, see why he took so many shots. And thats what ive been telling people for years, before you just look at that stat, look at the game and see why Kobe had to take 30 shots. Go, dont get me wrong, there are some games where Kobe is shooting too much, but there are some games where he have to shoot a lot just to get the Lakers a chance to win. For an example, against the Magic, JVG was calling the game and he was talking about how Kobe need to take all these shots because the rest of the team was struggling. He also said he had a convo with Kobe about the stat how when he shoot more, they have a worst record. Kobe then said, before you just look at the stat, see why he took so many shots. And thats what ive been telling people for years, before you just look at that stat, look at the game and see why Kobe had to take 30 shots.

Kobe Bryant is not the MVP of this young season.  Kobe Bryant is playing his tail off, but he's not very efficient or selective with his shot attempts and, as a result, he's as much to blame for the Lakers struggle as he is for the Lakers' succeses.  Onto this post, this is a ridiculous question.  The Lakers will get it together, they'll eventually get back to the top of the division and they'll have home court at least in the first round.  Anything past that isn't guaranteed but the Lakers will be there.  When Kobe Bryant stops shooting 30 times a game and gets Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum going, they'll be even better. 


Kobe Bryant is very much in the MVP discussion. Anyone who thinks otherwise is frankly blinded by hate. Effeciency and shot selection? Have you haters actually watched a Lakers game this season? Kobe is the only player on this team that can create his own shot, other teams know this. He faces constant double and triple teams due to the fact other Lakers can't knock down a shot. Kobe is the least of the Lakers problems this season. As for getting Bynum and Gasol going if they'd actually show up every game as one Mr. Kobe Bryant does than LA wouldn't be 2 games over .500.  Bynum is doing his best to fill Lamar Odoms role of showing up big only to dissappear just as quickly, while Gasol seems to be doing his best Dirk impression and is constantly drifting away from the post. LA will make the playoffs no doubt, that being said they aren't sniffing a Title unless a change is made at the PG position and someone outside thier Big 3 steps up consistantly to pick up some of the scoring load. 

so basically welcome to lebron's life in cleveland for 7 years. those 7 years when laker fans tore lebron apart because he didnt win a ring.


except kobe still has more talent on this team than lebron did in cleveland.

Problem is, kobe wont adjust his game to maximize the talent around him. His mindset is im gonna score and other people can get their points when i want a break.


with this same offense and less talent lebron managed to have many good seasons. its early yet, but kobe is strugglin to lead this team anywhere.       

.  When Kobe Bryant stops shooting 30 times a game


Exactly when is this going to happen? Laker fans can blame Pau and Bynum all they want. I have heard over and over how Kobe makes players around him better. Prove it.

I'd love to talk about other teams but you're entirely right that those who comment on the Lakers are at such polar opposites of the spectrum that them so enticing to talk about.


Interesting that you say that. Go to the Heat haters board and you will find the majority of the haters are Lakers fans. Hmm.

I think the Lakers seriously need to consider trading for some offense. I think Gasol needs out of there. He just isn't playing his A-game any longer. Trading him to the T-Wolves makes the most sense. Get a guy like Derrick Williams and someone else possibly. I doubt they give up Love o.

A Kobe on a  very underachieving 10-8 team playing with Gasol and Bynum is not in the conversation for MVP. Its Durant and Lebron then everyone else is way behind right now. 

Is it possible for the Lakers to not make the playoffs this year? They can't win on the road. No point guard and Kobe is playing way too much.

As of tonight they are sitting in 10th place. Utah, Memphis and Denver and the LA Clippers are much improved and Dallas and San Antonio and Portland and Oklahoma are all strong. There bench is very lean and some of the players are getting long in the tooth. If they make a trade then all bets are off but if they play out the year with this line-up then i think there is a strong possibility that they will fall short of the playoffs

I really think it is too early to panic and jump to conclusions. The Lakers started the season with a new coach and a completely new system and now that the Lakers have a small break in their schedule, they can iron out the problems.  If the Lakers beat the teams that they are supposed to beat they will make the playoffs even though they do not look like a championship contender.

In the worst case scenario, however I would not be totally upset if the Lakers missed the playoffs as long as they started tanking it once they saw it was hopeless. It has been said that this year will be rich with talent in the draft and the Lakers could address their point guard problem and if their was another Blake Griffen type player they could nab a decent power forward for the future. Then in the regular full season the Lakers with some typical trades could be back at the top with the potential for longetivity.

I think the Lakers seriously need to consider trading for some offense. I think Gasol needs out of there. He just isn't playing his A-game any longer. Trading him to the T-Wolves makes the most sense. Get a guy like Derrick Williams and someone else possibly. I doubt they give up Love o.

That was appearantly what the Lakers believed when they tried to give Gasol and Odom up for Chris Paul. I would do a Gasol straight up for Derrick Williams although I am not sure what Minnesota would be getting out of it. They have a good team and are starting to look like a decent team. Why would they mess around with that?

Kobe Bryant is very much in the MVP discussion. Anyone who thinks otherwise is frankly blinded by hate. Effeciency and shot selection? Have you haters actually watched a Lakers game this season?

Seriously you're going to brand me as just a hater based on me not thinking Kobe Bryant is not the MVP?  I didn't say he wasn't in the discussion.  I said he wasn't the MVP.  What does that even matter?  The team's struggling; don't get caught up in Kobe Bryant's individual greatness.  I'm not.  I said the team would still win the division and you still just cast me off as a hater.

This is why I can't stand these boards and why Lakers fans are impossible to talk basketball with.  You're just as blinded by love as the haters are by hate.  As I told Bam.... two completely opposite sides of the spectrum.  There can be no in between with you guys.