Penn State Scandal's Impact

• The Florida House is considering a bill that would fine universities $1,000,000 and cut off state funds for 2 years if the school fails to report child abuse.  The debate specifically mentioned the situation at Penn State.  Florida Times-Union
• The Pedobear, a cartoon character used to mock pedophiles, made an appearance at the Ticket City Bowl.  This was not only covered in the U.S., but in Europe as well.  Houston Chronicle, London Mail
• "The horrific crimes alleged combined with claims of a cover-up by high-ranking school officials, including legendary former coach Joe Paterno, make it one of the worst sports scandals in history."  Sports Illustrated
• PSU alums and lettermen were upset that the new coach wasn't part of the PSU family.  "The hard truth here is Penn State’s decision to reach for an outsider makes it official that all the things Penn State believed it stood for, it did not. It’s hard to learn you lived a lie, but in this case what forced the truth upon everyone is too big to ignore."  Foxsports
• The Maxwell Club of Philedelphia discontinued an award named after Paterno due to the scandal.  Philedelphia Inquirer
• The Big Ten removed Paterno's name from its championship trophy.  ESPN
• Public opinion - nationwide, 51% of people surveyed thought that Paterno should be fired.  In Pennsylvania, only 35% thought he should be fired.  ESPN
• The Pennsylvania legislature is considering repealing the open records exception for Penn State that allows it to ignore public record requests.  Philedelphia Inquirer
• The federal Department of Education is investigating if Penn State complied with the Cleary Act for reporting of criminal offenses on campus.  Washington Post

I'm sure that I've missed some things, please feel free to add.

Great post, Gregjack;

"It’s hard to learn you lived a lie, but in this case what forced the truth upon everyone is too big to ignore"

Penn Staters can cut and paste below.

"So much hate."  i.e. "Too many facts." 

Lioness, I received your PM and understand that you are upset.

Everything that I posted came from reputable news sources.  The bullet point that you take issue with was widely reported in major newspaper, complete with photos.

I don't condone, nor do I agree with some of the reaction (such as the one you object to), but it has occurred, and has been reported on in major media.

The news items shows the reaction around the country, and probably the most telling point is the public opinion poll.  In 49 states, a majority of the population feels that the firing of Joe Paterno was justified, while in Pennsylvania, the numbers are reversed.  The nation as a whole sees the reaction of the Penn State faithful and concludes that y'all just don't get it.  That is what brings on the exact type of thing that you claim is classless.

Penn State needs to get its priorities straight, and determine whether children are more important than their football program.

Well I won't make this private . Thanks for your sensitivity to others in making your case. You found it necessary to post because it will educate people. OK How does it feel to be a bottom feeder!


Your post have no impact on what the university does anymore than my defending it you poor stupid man!

How does it feel to be a bottom feeder!

I don't know, maybe you could get Schultz or Curley or Sandusky to enlighten us.

MAJOR MEDIA =  TRUTH

Really you buy into that? Sorry but that is just plain stupid!  This is the last post to you because in responding I have just dropped to your level.



I have no one to blame but myself for reading the amount of ignorance that is written here by people who are clueless!

Penn State needs to get its priorities straight, and determine whether children are more important than their football program.

Well considering they have donated over 2 million to child abuse charities, and are building a new clinic in Hershey, PA to help with all victims of abuse, I would say that Penn State cares.

BTW, have you ever heard of THON? It is the largest student run fundraiser in the world. All the proceeds go to Pediatric Cancer Research. And it all occurs at Penn State. Last year, Penn State raised over 9 million dollars towards the fight against Pediatric Cancer. We have been doing this for many years now. So to answer your question, yes, Penn State does care about children.

If you wish to donate, here's the website. I think all the hater's should donate just like all us Penn Stater's do. You hater's seem to care so much, so donate. Also, donate to RAINN, which has teamed up with Penn State to fight against abuse.

http://www.thon.org/

 http://www.rainn.org/

Well considering they have donated over 2 million to child abuse charities, and are building a new clinic in Hershey, PA to help with all victims of abuse, I would say that Penn State cares.

That's a good thing.

It sends a mixed message when you allow a molester to use your facilities for over a decade after he is seen abusing a child...

Greg Jack


              In light of all that u have reprinted here concerning Penn St, I am wondering what is your opinion on the John Chadima sexual misconduct
              allegation at Wisconsin  

In light of all that u have reprinted here concerning Penn St, I am wondering what is your opinion on the John Chadima sexual misconduct allegation at Wisconsin  

I find the conduct appalling, with differences from the Penn State situation.  First, the assaulted student was, from my understanding, legally an adult, and not a child, a significant difference.  Second, it was reported immediately, but at the victim's request it was not acted on until after the bowl game.  Third, the administration did not try and cover it up, but investigated it and Chadima resigned.  The resignation did not sweep the matter under the rug, nor is Chadima hanging around Wisconsin for the next ten years. 

You are 100% correct.   What I found interesting however is the fact that yjr incident was reported to school officals and campus police,  And in  Mid December the police chief of the UW-Madison police force  sent a memp to school officials  that any employee hat witnesses ot reveives info about  a sexual assault is required by law to report the incident to the Dean of Students.


The Dean of Stultzdents?   If seems to me that Paterno ( as required by Pennsylvania law) did more by reporting to Curley and Schulz.  Yet.except for Sandusky, Paterno was the most villified person in the scandal;  And in view if that scandal Wisconsin law only requires the Dean of Stidents be informed.   Seems there would be a lot of outrage from people caring about sexual assault victims, especially when all of them said not enough was done by people at Penn St.


Also suprised you didn't find that the curious part of the allegation  

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Well considering they have donated over 2 million to child abuse charities, and are building a new clinic in Hershey, PA to help with all victims of abuse, I would say that Penn State cares.

I don't want to get into this but I red most peoples views. I feel there's too much not known to all of us to take a stand other than the initial knee jerk reacion one way or the other.

However, I'd like to ask you and please don't feel defensive. I ask because I don't know and would like to. Did PSU do this all recently or have they given over the yars?

If just recently, then I find it akin to when a "celebrity" loses a child or family member and then starts a charity and everyone is all gaga bout how great they are. Wheres I think the opposite and think they are selfish in doing so and if they were so great and giving they would have done it before it happened to one of their family members.

I have no stance yet on this one way or the other yet but would honestly like to know.

You are 100% correct.   What I found interesting however is the fact that yjr incident was reported to school officals and campus police,  And in  Mid December the police chief of the UW-Madison police force  sent a memp to school officials  that any employee hat witnesses ot reveives info about  a sexual assault is required by law to report the incident to the Dean of Students.


The Dean of Stultzdents?   If seems to me that Paterno ( as required by Pennsylvania law) did more by reporting to Curley and Schulz.  Yet.except for Sandusky, Paterno was the most villified person in the scandal;  And in view if that scandal Wisconsin law only requires the Dean of Stidents be informed.   Seems there would be a lot of outrage from people caring about sexual assault victims, especially when all of them said not enough was done by people at Penn St.


Also suprised you didn't find that the curious part of the allegation  

Actually that is not surprising.  Every calender year a university is required to report all offenses to the federal Dept. of Education under the Cleary Act.  Not only do they have to show the number of offenses that have been reported to the campus police, but any other offenses that have been reported to university officials, such as administrators, housing, counselors, etc.  At most schools this information is compiled at the Dean of Students office, and most schools send out a similar memo towards the end of the year.

If a school fails to report an offense, such as a sexual assault of a child in a campus building, the feds can fine the school for each violation and cut off federal funding (such as student loans).  Most schools go out of the way to comply.  If, as I expect, the feds find that Penn State did not report the 2002 incident, there could be significant penalties.  A couple of years ago, Eastern Michigan was fined $357K for violations.

I think in this case, they'll hit Penn State hard.

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However, I'd like to ask you and please don't feel defensive. I ask because I don't know and would like to. Did PSU do this all recently or have they given over the yars?

Well the giving to RAINN and building the new clinic is Penn State saying "We screwed up big time, so we are going to do whatever it takes to make sure this never happens again here at Penn State or anywhere else."

However, THON, as I mentioned in an earlier post, has been going on for many years. It raises millions of dollars every year for Pediatric Cancer. Pediatric Cancer, for those who don't know, is cancer in children. I ask that everyone would please donate to that cause. This past fall, researchers at Penn State's medical campus in Hershey, PA found a possible cure for  Leukemia. This cure has worked on mice and looks very promising. 

 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in
dex.ssf/2011/12/penn_state_universi
ty_research.html

The news items shows the reaction around the country, and probably the most telling point is the public opinion poll.  In 49 states, a majority of the population feels that the firing of Joe Paterno was justified, while in Pennsylvania, the numbers are reversed.  The nation as a whole sees the reaction of the Penn State faithful and concludes that y'all just don't get it.  That is what brings on the exact type of thing that you claim is classless.

Penn State needs to get its priorities straight, and determine whether children are more important than their football program.

Precisely, GregJack.  Well said!

http://lancasteronline.com/article/

local/492303_PSU-in-harsh-spotlight

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Go to the site above.... Look to the right and a box appears with the title " Related Topics"

On thge list is Joe Paterno (666 )

You are f'n nuts. With that logic, is "Beelzebub" really a name for Satan or is it Ba‘al Zəbub "meaning Lord of the Flies" - a derogatory term where Zabub was added on by ancient Jews to describe their enemies from Asia Minor's supreme God Ba'al as a false profit. Hmmmm...... funny thing when you look at "real" history all these "so-called" religious symbols they ultimately become rooted in politics. Keep looking for Satin you idiot, I am sure sure you will see him everywhere.

Keep looking for Satin you idiot, I am sure sure you will see him everywhere.

My mistake, keep looking for Satin, and I am sure you will find it on Mitt Romney's sheets ... Satan, well he probably still work at Bane Capital.