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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 2, 2012 5:20 pm

Well looks like they might take the 10 year lease with Louisiana, so thats good news afterall for NO fans.... My bad on that one. But they are gonna be rebuilding for at least 5 years, maybe more if Gordon leaves and doesnt ink the deal... Still backs the point that the Clippers deal wasnt as good as the Rockets/Lakers deal in MY opinion
Cain=CYYOUNG
SinceDec 18, 2006
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 2, 2012 5:21 pm

And Mike Dunleavy and his California based group of buyers that are making a pitch for the team dont want the team in NO.
I just posted a link to an article that states there are California and Louisiana buyers in the group and that they'd all move to Louisiana upon the purchase.  Also, any purchase of the team is under the condition of the new Lease Agreement and that the team remains New Orleans long term.  If it weren't, then Stern could have let Larry Ellison purchase the team last year and move them to San Jose.  I don't mind talking about the Hornets roster with people because that's certainly open to debate but how can y'all sit and argue with out me about the nuances of the executive decisions regarding the team?  I follow this stuff closely and all I see is inaccuracies and false assumptions from everyone else regarding the situation because they go by word of mouth from a glass half emtpy (as it pertains to New Orleans) media and uses that as fact based truth.  It's not. 

As I said, it's there for everyone to read.
GoHornets21
SinceNov 17, 2006
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 2, 2012 5:25 pm

Well looks like they might take the 10 year lease with Louisiana, so thats good news afterall for NO fans.... My bad on that one. But they are gonna be rebuilding for at least 5 years, maybe more if Gordon leaves and doesnt ink the deal... Still backs the point that the Clippers deal wasnt as good as the Rockets/Lakers deal in MY opinion
It's not.  I've been of the opinion since the original trade happened that a roster of Jarrett Jack, Kevin Martin, Trevor Ariza, Luis Scola and Emeka Okafor with a bench of Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic, Marco Belinelli and Carl Landry is definitely a playoff roster.  They would have made the postseason had that original deal gone through.  They also would have been stuck in mediocrity for ensuing years to follow with lots of cap space tied up in the aging Scola and in the overpaid Martin.  As I said, that's what makes the Clippers deal more attractive to prospective buyers.  Some look at it and say "the league won't take back salary because they're cheap" and I say "the league is leaving the door open for any new owner to put their own imprint on the team."  That's something that's based upon which way you look at it; it's purely a matter of opinion.

But don't you, as a Warriors fan, wish your team would completely blow things up and rebuild here at some point?  I don't want to be stuck in "kind of competitive but not a playoff team" hell for five consecutive seasons.  That's miserable.
GoHornets21
SinceNov 17, 2006
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 4, 2012 4:38 am

Go,

"But don't you, as a Warriors fan, wish your team would completely blow things up and rebuild here at some point?"

It takes more than FA's, trades and draft picks to make a playoff contender.  There are a lot of teams that should blow things up, but it takes strong executive management, moxy, and a strong eye for talent to succeed.  I'd love to see the Lakers take their key pieces and make the trades necessary to rebuild, but that's a moot point with Jim Buss/Mitch Kupchak at the helm.  Same goes for the Hornets, it' obvious we'll see a new owner in place in the near future, but it remains to be determined who will be managing the team.  It's not like the league has a surplus of top-notch executives.

OneEyedPaul
SinceJan 8, 2009
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 4, 2012 3:08 pm

But don't you, as a Warriors fan, wish your team would completely blow things up and rebuild here at some point?  I don't want to be stuck in "kind of competitive but not a playoff team" hell for five consecutive seasons.  That's miserable.


I don't think it was the Hornets that decided to completely blow things up.  It was Chris Paul who gave them no other choice but to do this.


As far as "completely blow things up" though I am at a point that a trade that involves Curry or Ellis going somewhere I am fine with but not just any old trade for trades sake.  It has to be the right trade.  Option A is trading and Option B is not trading.  You only know if Option A is better than Option B when you see what Option A looks like.  If Option A is Ellis for Mayo/Thabeet for example (an old rumor from a couple years back) then we should stick with Option B.

I don't think every team that has won a championship or becomes a "perennial contender" gets there by completely blowing things up at some point either.  The path to get there just involves consistently making good personnel moves without making bad ones.  Golden State's recent track record in that regard is good but maybe just not quite good enough.  There has really not been any bad moves recently.  Some of the recent moves are  (1) Drafting Udoh--good but not great. (2) Sign and Trade for Lee--So-So but his contract is a bit too high which is what makes it so-so, (3) Signing Kwame Brown--This one looks like a joke move because people like to make fun as Kwame but until he good hurt this was looking like a good and even potentially great move based on the impact he had on the defense and rebounding, however then he got hurt which turned it into a bad move unfortunately, (4) Signing Nate Robinson--great move.  He is much more of an impact "third guard" than Reggie Williams could ever be and at a better price. (5) Drafting Klay Thompson--Not sure yet but this looks like it is going to be a good and potentially great move.  The kid has some athleticism, some good basketball instincts and a sweet stroke. (5) Trading Lou Amundson for Brandon Rush--GREAT move.

While there are many hits and really no misses (other than the fluke injury from Brown).  The Lee move was not that great though considering the price tag but at least it is not wasted money.  Also, the Lee move is probably equivalent to about three of these other moves due to the magnitude, but if they just make one good "big move" to go or several more good "little moves" with all these good "little moves" they have already made and just make sure not to make any "big bad moves" or a lot of "little bad moves" then they are on their way and the one and only path is not to tear down and rebuild.

Anyway, I am mult-tasking while typing this so I hope it makes sense and apologize if it does not ;)
Zagstuh
SinceDec 12, 2006
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 4, 2012 3:39 pm

Not much of a suprise. Yes Eric Gordon is a good player. But Chris Paul was better. I think the biggest reason the took the trade with the Clippers was because the players they got could be traded. The Hornets have many players that could be traded for a star. So it's mostly up the the Hornets. Rebulid or Rebulid Quick. I mean they aren't a good team with thier roster. And I just don't find Eric Gordon fitting with the Hornets. He was pretty good on the clippers cause him and Blake Griffin were the only good players. But with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin And DeAndre Jordan They are great. But the Hornets could try to make a trade for A PF OR SF. I do not think Eric Gordon will be staying with the hornets although. I would see him fitting in great with a team like the Knicks, Lakers, Or Nets (If Deron Williams Leaves and Goes to another team)

Eric Gordon is Maybe Number 7  on the list of the best PG's playing Now.

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3.Jrue Holiday
4.  Rajon Rondo
5. Jason Kidd
6. Kyrie Irving*
7. Eric Gordon

*Not Proven, But Likely
PhilsPhan4Life
SinceFeb 24, 2011
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 4, 2012 4:27 pm

pphan, with respect to your top 7 PG's, you'll have to include Rubio somewhere in that mix.  I'm not a Rubio fan (though I started liking him when I saw his play during the Olympics), but when you put his statistics up against all of the PG's this season he deserves recognition.  I've been a fan of J Holiday since he went to UCLA, but Rubio's stats and overall play deserve an equal amount of recognition, especially his assist and steal #'s and %'s.
OneEyedPaul
SinceJan 8, 2009
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 5, 2012 3:37 pm

IMO the Hornets should trade Kaman and Gordon in a package deal for some role players and draft picks. It's time to pack it in and build for the future. The draft picks should be for this year's and next year's draft. A 1st round pick for this year's draft needs to be included as well.
All_Pro_MVP
SinceFeb 5, 2012
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Hornets, Eric Gordon Fail to Reach an Extension

February 5, 2012 8:26 pm

Eric Gordon is Maybe Number 7  on the list of the best PG's playing Now.
Too bad Eric Gordon isn't even a point guard...
jefe101
SinceFeb 22, 2008