WVU Assistant Mike Smith to return to NY Jets.

It is also funny that most everyone has said that it is not being correctly, inluding DC,  but you choose to continue to jump at each word I say. 

but you choose to continue to jump at each word I say. 

No sir.. I simply want you to stop stating assumptions or speculations as fact...

DC and others gave their opinion on the search ... but none of them have tried to parlay that into DH gives no concern to the defensive side of the ball or that there must be something wrong with the philosophy because they havent hired a coach...

that comes from one source and one source only.. you.

We know your opinion on the search.. you dont think it is being handled correctly... but thats a far stretch to connect that dot with saying DH and staff do not care about the D side of the ball.

Casteel and company had more freedom and more rule over their side of the ball this year than any year previous. 

I have stated all Im going to with you on this matter.. you can continue to have you opinion and I will have mine when it comes to the hiring process.. nothing argued over this board will change that,,

And for the record ...as for my opinion... I too am frustrated with the amount of time it has taken but that doesnt make it wrong or that something is wrong with the defensive philosophy

Now go respond to DC and Mounties they seem to have a bone to pick with you as well

Now go respond to DC and Mounties they seem to have a bone to pick with you as well

Lambert, it is just like talking to wall when it comes to WVU DAD and wvudad2 are one and the same or to put it another way 2 clowns in one.

I was listening to Talkline this morning, a caller called in to whine about the move to the Big 12, I would SWEAR it was WVUDad.  Caller used the word "abhorrent" in describing WVU's ethics and decision to go to the Big 12, said WVU should stay in the BE because then WVU would be the "big fish in the pond, not the little fish in the pond".  Rediculous. Dad, was that indeed you? 

Reasons to stay in the BE:

1. Big fish in a little pond
2. continuing rivalries.  Sorry, scratch that one.  All our rivals have left or are leaving.
3. Good chance to get the automatic BCS bid.  Oops, scratch that one.  The automatic bid will end after the 2013 season.

Reasons to go to the Big-12:

1.  More money to operate our sports programs (all our sports programs).
2.  Better competition forces you to play up to your competition.
3.  Mo' money.
4.  A more stable conference that does not give special consideration, and special power, and inequitable finance distribution to basketball-only schools.
5.  More money from TV contracts, more money from better bowl games, better football programs with larger stadiums and larger fan bases.

There is NO good reason to remain in the BE long term,  the league has been dying a slow death from the time that ND was given preferential treatment.     

I never said we should stay in the BE for the long haul,  what you do is not as important as HOW you do it.   sPitt and 'Cuse are leaving the BE under good terms, doing things the right way, honoring the contract they signed.    Ollie Luck is doing it the wrong way, he is doing to the BE and the rest of the schools therein the EXACT thing that Fraud did to WVU,   swearing allegiance one minute, then bolting months later.  It will be good for the pocketbook to be in the B12, there is no doubt that they will pay better than the BE, but there is NO reason that it couldn't have been handled the correct way.


As to the B12 being more stable, I would disagree, in the weeks prior to sPitt and 'Cuse announcing their intended move, the B12 was falling apart, and probably will when the P?? decides to expand again.   

Paying a buyout is honoring a contract. 

sPitt and 'Cuse are leaving the BE under good terms, doing things the right way, honoring the contract they signedv

Ill betcha a paycheck that as soon as WVU sets the number it takes to leave that Pitt and Cuse follow them out the door...

once again pitt riding our coat tails...

as evidence I give you this from Pitt AD Pederson

The sooner, the better," said Pitt athletic director Steve Pederson, who attended ACC winter meetings this week as a non-voting member. "Everybody is a little on hold until we see what all shakes out. Everyone is anxious to get this done and anxious to get moving forward."

When Pitt and Syracuse announced in September they would leave the Big East, both schools hoped the move would be finalized in time for the 2012-13 school year. But Big East commissioner John Marinatto has been steadfast in holding the universities to their contractually negotiated 27-month waiting period.

A month later, West Virginia said it would leave the Big East for the Big 12 and filed a lawsuit to make that happen this year. The Big East countersued, and the matter is working its way through the judicial system.

Pederson didn't rule out Pitt playing in the ACC this year, but that is tied to West Virginia's court fight.

"We are following that very closely and continuing to monitor what happens there," Pederson said. "I don't know exactly what the future holds."

Read more: Pitt has home in ACC ... eventually - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pit
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Sorry to bust your bubble again there DAD

Reasons to stay in the BE:

1. Big fish in a little pond
2. continuing rivalries.  Sorry, scratch that one.  All our rivals have left or are leaving.
3. Good chance to get the automatic BCS bid.  Oops, scratch that one.  The automatic bid will end after the 2013 season.

Reasons to go to the Big-12:

1.  More money to operate our sports programs (all our sports programs).
2.  Better competition forces you to play up to your competition.
3.  Mo' money.
4.  A more stable conference that does not give special consideration, and special power, and inequitable finance distribution to basketball-only schools.
5.  More money from TV contracts, more money from better bowl games, better football programs with larger stadiums and larger fan bases.   

SMURPH,

I am a WVU Grad but I live in NY and one of the things that I love(d) about WVU being in the Big East is/was the number of times I could see them on TV (locally) or go to the games (FB- Syr, Rut & UCONN) (B-Ball- Syr, Rut, UCONN, SJU, SH & BE Tourney).  In NY we have the Big East Football and Basketball Network on SNY, for people not familiar it is similar to MASN in the DC area.  That station, along with ESPN allowed me to see every FB this year except Norfolk St. and a similar situation for basketball as I have been able to see 8 or 9 games that were not televised on any of the ESPN networks but on the BE Basketball Network so for me, and other NY, NJ & Connecticut WVU fans, the move to the Big 12 is a little bittersweet.  But all in all, it's a move up for our program and our university so...point well taken.

I just hope/wonder if Huggs will try to schedule some NY/NJ/Conn games to keep recruiting alive in this area.       


  

Remedy, I have DirecTV and pay for the sports package -$11/month extra.  I get MASN, SNY, RootSportsPittsburgh and about 40 other sports channels.  So I also get to watch all of the games, even though I live in the Midwest.  I will miss going to the DePaul, Marquette and UND basketball games, but the traveling distance for away football games will be about the same for me.  If you have DirectTV, I would recommend getting the sports package next year, as I am sure the games that are not on the major networks will be picked up by some of these stations. 

SMURPH,

I do have DIRECT TV and the sports package, in fact I question anyone claiming to be a sports fan that doesn't have DIRECT TV.  I just wonder who/what the BIG 12 has a TV contract with that I will be able to watch?  FB I am not as worried about even though the Big 12 doesn't get as many games on ESPN as the Big East does.  Probably means the end of Thurs/Fri night games as well (Thank God).  I guess it's just a wait and see. 

Lambert, they may want to leave early, but I think it would be a stretch for sPitt or 'Cuse to come up with a $20+ million buyout, and I wouldn't think that the money grubber Swofford would help pay the buyout.  The B12 is desperate to have WVU in the league next year to fullfill their TV deals, and will lose a ton of cash if they only have 9 teams, so they would be willing to pony us some cash,  the ACC is not in that position.  I would say that 2013 would be as soon as sPitt and 'Cuse will be painting ACC on their fields.

 sPitt and 'Cuse are leaving the BE under good terms, doing things the right way, honoring the contract they signed

their situation is different than ours, had the B12 asked them, they would be doing the same thing, the ACC has 12 already and no threat to their tv deal, the B12 needed us asap. Had A&M and Mizzu still been there and they were adding TCU and WVU I feel certain we would have been happy to wait as well. 

they may want to leave early, but I think it would be a stretch for sPitt or 'Cuse to come up with a $20+ million buyout, and I wouldn't think that the money grubber Swofford would help pay the buyout. 

So which is it, they are morally "doing things the right way", or doing so because they are  "financially forced"? 

So which is it, they are morally "doing things the right way", or doing so because they are  "financially forced"?  

Morality of the small wallet??

As the two posters above just asked you... which is it..

You said in your earlier post and I quote:

Pitt and 'Cuse are leaving the BE under good terms, doing things the right way, sPitt and 'Cuse are leaving the BE under good terms, doing things the right way,

But then confronted with the quote made by Pitts AD Pederson that they want to leave "THE SOONER THE BETTER" and that he didnt rule out Pitt playing in the ACC this year but will be tied to the out come of the WVU lawsuit.....

you give us this gem

Lambert, they may want to leave early, but I think it would be a stretch for sPitt or 'Cuse to come up with a $20+ million buyout, and I wouldn't think that the money grubber Swofford would help pay the buyout.  The B12 is desperate to have WVU in the league next year to fullfill their TV deals, and will lose a ton of cash if they only have 9 teams, so they would be willing to pony us some cash,  the ACC is not in that position.  I would say that 2013 would be as soon as sPitt and 'Cuse will be painting ACC on their fields.

so which side of your face are you gonna stand on this point.... Are they doing things correct and leaving under good terms which satisfies your moral high ground or are they just waiting for WVU to set the bar as to what it will cost to leave and are financially unable to make the move