Is shady stuff going down @ Ohio State

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For a School that has won only one National Title since 1968 they have some pull for recruits.

I think Miami got ripped off in that Championship with a flag that gave OSU 4 extra downs inside the 10. Go look at the play on Youtube, a awful call even though I wanted OSU to win that game. I don't hate OSU that much lol. Miami is the Pits.

How is this school landing recruits over Notre Dame? I would be embarrassed to say I went to Ohio State after that Tatoo crap lol.

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I'll go beyond shady.  This school has a reputation for cheating, the whole tatoo thing, the Tressel cover up, the hiring of Urban.  If it looks like a cheat, smells like a cheat then watch out.

I bet the other B10 schools take action, this looks awful... again (it seems like last deja vu from last year with OSU). 

The other B10 schools are just furious that Meyer does what he does well, thats poach players committed to other schools.  As ND fans, we're intimately familiar with this practice, but since our coach doesn't take no for an answer and will target kids committed elsewhere too, its kind of hard to bash him for it.  Its just frustrating with the frequency and rate of success this guy seems to have.  One can only wonder what is being said about these other institutions to the recruits behind closed doors which gets him to do this. 

This is just loud and vocal frustration by guys like Beliema and Dantonio, not surprising the two most successful programs in the B10 the last couple of years after OSU started to slide.  They probably felt this was thier time and that OSU's had past and now have to contend with a guy like Meyer who can sell ice to eskimos. 

The honest answer is that we don't know if there is anything shady going on.  On the surface it all seems quite plausible. Ohio State has been a prominent program for a number of years now and they usually are in the national championship picture, even if they have only won that one.  Urban Meyer is a tremendously successful college coach with multiple championships which gives him instant credibility with recruits.  Put the two together and I can see why many recruits would suddenly question their non-binding committments and want to get on board the Ohio State bandwagon.

I have no great love for Urban Meyer or Ohio State but I can't see where they have done anything wrong here.  Recruiting is a no-holds-barred business until a kid signs that Letter of Intent.

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One can only wonder what is being said about these other institutions to the recruits behind closed doors which gets him to do this. 

What the kid wants to hear.  Case in point - Taylor Decker's gf just "happened" to be accepted into OSUe after Urban pulled some strings.  The next day Decker switched his pledge.  Coincidence?  I think not. 

But yeah, we can't bash anyone for going after committed prospects.  We don't do it nearly as often as other football factories, but we do partake in the practice.  What I'll be angry about is when Urban brings oversigning to Big 10 country.  It's gonna happen...as soon as they're off probation.  Just watch.   

What I'll be angry about is when Urban brings oversigning to Big 10 country.  It's gonna happen...as soon as they're off probation.  Just watch.

Two things about this, #1, didn't Meyer sign a letter in the SEC denouncing the practice of oversigning.  If so, that would make him the biggest lying hypocrite ever.  #2, doesn't the Big 10 have its own rules limiting the amount of recruits teams can take?  I may be wrong on both counts, I just thought I heard these two things at different times.

Two things about this, #1, didn't Meyer sign a letter in the SEC denouncing the practice of oversigning. 

Only because ther president at UF was against it.  Read this article and you'll see Urban is no Saint. 

If so, that would make him the biggest lying hypocrite ever.

Urban is a liar.  Great coach, but an even better liar.

#2, doesn't the Big 10 have its own rules limiting the amount of recruits teams can take?  I may be wrong on both counts, I just thought I heard these two things at different times.

They do.  However, lots of smoke about Meyer introducing "greyshirting" to the Big 10.  He'll find a loophole to allow this to happen.  And guess what?  Delaney couldn't care less if it happens.  The more I read about that guy, the more I'm convinced the Big 10 will regret some of the decisions he's made/is going to make. 

They do.  However, lots of smoke about Meyer introducing "greyshirting" to the Big 10.  He'll find a loophole to allow this to happen.  And guess what?  Delaney couldn't care less if it happens.  The more I read about that guy, the more I'm convinced the Big 10 will regret some of the decisions he's made/is going to make. 


Ohio State's former QB Todd Boeckman was a greyshirt.  If that is the case (and it is)... how could Urban Meyer possibly introduce greyshirting to the Big Ten?  Easy answer... he couldn't... because it's already happened in the Big Ten in the past.

There is certainly a good deal of fear and jealousy floating around the Ohio State program since Meyer came on board.  Can't say I'm surprised by it though.  The sky is the limit with that program at this point. 

You won't see Meyer oversigning in the Big Ten.  Conference rules do not allow it and he, himself, is against the practice.  He's had a number of questionable recruits handed over to him by the previous regime for the 2012 class.  If he really had a hankering to oversign... he'd have a number of candidates to force out of this class.  Instead, he's kept each and every one of them and the only scholarship offer that was released was released for a very good reason.

Michigan was going to grayshirt Jeremy Clark, it was known to him and he accepted it, but then after losing out on a bunch of recruits there was enough room for him to get a scholly in this class...

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The question shouldnt be is it? It should be when isnt it? This grey shirt, pulling schollys will eventually bite Cryer in the butt. Its only a matter of time. Super shady SEC stuff. TYPICAL!

Super shady SEC stuff. TYPICAL!

Apparently this idiot wasn't smart enough to comprehend Non's post just two up.  LOL.

Super shady SEC stuff. TYPICAL!

Apparently this idiot wasn't smart enough to comprehend Non's post just two up.  LOL.

Surprising you because........?????

LOL at the Boeckman comment.  When he enrolled at OSUe, there was no such thing as grey-shirting.  It's since been termed, but the definition is still very vague.  Funny how he was also red-shirted.  Guess the ole' sweater vest needed someone to beat out Rob Schoenhoft and Antonio Henton (who?) after Troy Smith moved on. 

The point I'm making in regards to grey-shirting is that it's a commonplace practice in the SEC.  Teams do it all the time and get away with it because the NCAA hasn't mandated guidelines yet.  It'll happen with Meyer eventually (he's got lawyers working on loopholes), but as we all know, the NCAA moves at a snail's pace (unless you're OSUe and you have people inside the NCAA offices in Indy). 

Meyer may have made comments about being against it in the past.  However, do enough digging and you'll see it's because his boss had him do so.  He tried to do it.  Read the article I posted above.  I mean we're talking about a guy that used an "I had a dream" speech to entice a recruit to attend UF.  And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 

Speaking of dreams, how many "dream jobs" does he have?  I lost count at 10.  He did have a dream, but it was of the nightmare variety.  Saban scared the living sh** out of him, made his once in a lifetime player cry on national TV, and then got the hell out of dodge when it became apparent his little run was over.  In short, Saban made him quit.  But hey, it was because of health problems.  Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.  I mean nine months off is long enough to spend "quality time" with the family (in addition to speaking events, ESPN duties, etc), right?  Who cares if his daugther voiced her displeasure with dad on social media sites.  LOL. 

Funny OSU was on that list of teams that can beat SEC teams but OSU can't beat those team consistently either. OSU is a joke when they play non conf. big teams. 

OSU schedule is a joke.  everyone on the planet knows this.....Go get em' Beat all the in state rivals.....hilarious....

You won't see Meyer oversigning in the Big Ten.  Conference rules do not allow it and he, himself, is against the practice.

The article IE posted seems to point out, pretty clearly, that he did practice oversigning while at Florida. Which basically leaves three conclusions.

1. The artilce is complete BS.

2. Myer oversigned and was exteremly lucky to have the situation unfold like it did. Regretting the decision, Myer sees the light and is now against it. Praise the Lord!

3. He was/is a shady dude.

There is certainly a good deal of fear and jealousy floating around the Ohio State program since Meyer came on board.  Can't say I'm surprised by it though.  The sky is the limit with that program at this point. 

I can't ever seem to figure out why so many college football fans label OSU fans as arrogant?

hey entourage do us a favor, change that pic to a green jersey so it matches your envy...

we understand your frustration though, it's pretty obvious that the Buckeyes are headed for great things while the domers will continue on with their 20+ years of mediocrity, coaching carousel, and all around unwarranted arrogance that we all love so much.

you spend as much time bad-mouthing OSU as anyone.   why?   don't you have enough problems in south bend to keep you busy?
the funny thing is, Buckeye fans never even think of notre dame, we just don't give a rat's behind about them.   they aren't on the upcoming schedule and chances are we won't be meeting in a bowl anytime soon.  

as for the original post.....yea, there is some shade at Ohio State.    we've had an awesome stretch of beautiful sunny days, which is rare for this time of year.  so yea I'd say it's been pretty shady.