The Pac-12 Thread....

In the great words of Dennis Green "The Ducks are who we thought they were" Put em up against a good disciplined defense instead dumb ignorant arm tacklers and looked what happend? 14pts. was the result! Ahhhh, haa,haa, haaa, haaa! Get to the back of the bus you clowns! That gimmicky offense has been seen before. Its the reincarnation of Steve Spurriers Fun and Gun! Nothing new. An if Chip Kelly calls his self going to the NFL with that crap he might wanna talk to Spurrier first. It doesn't work! Now, I have got my violin out ready to play as you idiots cry about "Oh now the SEC is going to be back in the Championship game" What I say to that is, you had your chance and you blew it! So don't cry about it. I suppose now we are going to hear the excuses, so lets here them(LOL)!!!! You got beat fair and square! Just wasnt use to a defense, you damn sure played one tonight, and got spanked like red-hed step children behind a barn.

well it looks to me that the Stanford D smacked the Ducks in the mouth and they caved.... Again. I said it before and it proved true tonight. The Ducks offense hasnt looked in sync lately or teams are figuring out how to slow them down i guess. I would love to see the outcome of this next two weeks to see just how the BCS shakes up. It looks again that the SEC will now again be playing in the big one. 

Duck fans you now know the answer to why USC has been up and down after their monsterous run of dominance. It is much easier to get to the top than stay up there. now if you look at things you have lost a game in which you were favored in two years in a row which will most likely cost you the NC opportunity. Whats even worse is you lost at home again. Dont get me wrong im not bragging because now you know where SC fans have been a few years now. All that im saying is that it is hard to go undefeated for the whole season and you still havent done it. The conf titles dont mean jack if you dont go on to win it all. I look forward to the conference finishing strong and my Trojans putting things back together to take down the Irish 

Ahhh, haa, haa, haa!!! In the words of Dennis Green "The Ducks are who we thought they were" Put them up against a good, disciplined defense that doesn't arm tackle and look what happened to that PS3 offense! 14pts. I suppose you Duck Fans have excuses(LOL) Hey lets hear them then. Wait let me break out the violen first cause their will be lots of whining! Look that offense stinks! Just ask Steve Spurrier, all it is, is a reincarnation of his Fun and Gun he had back in the day. Yall may think you seeing some new stuff out there, but that offense aint nothing but a re-run. If Chip Kelly thinks he is taking that crap to the NFL he might want to consult Spurrier first(LOL) We saw what happened when he tried it. But back to you Duck fans, no need to start talking crap about"Now the SEC is going back to the championship"Look you lost, fair and square, got beat by the better team. Deal with it! What you guys want sympathy from the voters and computers and put in the championship game because you haven't been? As Ocho Cinco say "Child Please" Get to the back of the bus, Losers! Roll Tide!!!! An thank you Baylor and Stanford!

I wasn't saying Wilson led them to wins but logic would suggest since had a player he hated and the team lost this "cancer" as he put it they would put up a fight. But with no more Wilson to hate Leach's game showed some maturity, accountability and even a hint of humility, I guess baby steps.

If Stanford wins on the road next week at UCLA they end up the winners of the North don't they?

Wiz, if both Stanford and Oregon lose next week, the Bruins host the Cardinal in the CCG at Pasadena. 

I like that scenario.... 

Oregon is likely out of the NC but not out of the pac 12 yet.  UCLA beats stanford next week and Oregon wins the civil war Oregon goes on to play UCLA in the title game. 

Even if UCLA and Stanford rematch in the title game (stanford has to win next week) Oregon would still likely get a BCS at large bid. 

If Stanford wins on the road next week at UCLA they end up the winners of the North don't they?

Wiz, if both Stanford and Oregon lose next week, the Bruins host the Cardinal in the CCG at Pasadena. 

Yes but if UCLA beat Stanford and Oregon wins they host pac 12 title game.

as you idiots cry about "Oh now the SEC is going to be back in the Championship game" 

Pretty classy move to come onto the Pac thread to diss a team that just lost its run and then slam every fan of that conference, but then to follow it up in saying those very fans you just slammed were going to whine about yours is just puzzling. Must be too much of that inbreeding down there. 

I will say watching a couple of Bama games they just aren't that great, but if they get into the title game good for them. It isn't the Pac fans getting all crazy over the SEC, but the SEC homers sure do invade every square inch of space on this board pounding their chests and telling everyone else how good everyone in the SEC is and how every other team in the nation sucks. Just another sign of how little class there is down there. Now go pound your chest somewhere else.  

Even if UCLA and Stanford rematch in the title game (stanford has to win next week) Oregon would still likely get a BCS at large bid.  

Yeah, my 'holiday bowl' comment was meant as sarcasm. The only way Oregon doesn't get a premo bowl is if they lose to OS next week and even then they won't get a bad bowl, just not a BCS bowl. 

The Civil war was going to be a big game anyway and now it just got a whole lot more interesting. Between that game and the Stanford/UCLA game next weekend will be a great day to watch some Pac12 football.  

Yes but if UCLA beat Stanford and Oregon wins they host pac 12 title game.

True OlyDuck if the Cardinal lose and the Duck win next week we go to Autzen.

I guess y'all are Bruins fans this coming week, right?  Sorry I can't ablige, I'll be rooting for my Bruins and the Beavs....

Can't blame me can you?

 

I guess y'all are Bruins fans this coming week, right?  Sorry I can't ablige, I'll be rooting for my Bruins and the Beavs....

It would be fine with me if UCLA beat Stanford as long as OS also wins their game, otherwise I'm afraid I'd be for Stanford. Either way those are going to be two great games to watch. 

It would be fine with me if UCLA beat Stanford as long as OS also wins their game, otherwise I'm afraid I'd be for Stanford. Either way those are going to be two great games to watch.

I get cha wiz...

That's fair. 

Either way, IMO it's no easy road for anybody left to get to the Rose Bowl this year.

Of course, I'm sure there are still some Ducks fans out there who will try to argue that.     

well mike you are right that everyone in the zero nation is an instant UCLA fan lol. But seriously, a huge congrats to them on beating USC. If the Oregon/Stanford game hadn't been such a big news game everyone would be talking about that win and for good reason. Of coruse many of us up here are Mora Jr fans with his ties to the region and out of all of the California teams I can say UCLA is my least hated one? Something like that lol. I can honestly say no matter what happens next week I'll be rooting for UCLA in the CCG. Would love to see them make it to the Rose Bowl. 

Wiz I dont know where you stand as to wanting what bowl for UW but right now they are going to bump up. IF UCLA or Stanford win the conference Oregon gets a BCS at large, title game loser to Alamo and UW wins their last game with WSU(that the if off for that one) they could increase their bowl up to say the Holiday. 

Obviously a trip to the holiday bowl is better than the cr@p fight hunger bowl, but it is a dual edged thing for this team. Winning a good bowl would add a huge boost to the off season recruiting, but losing a good bowl probably hurts more than winning a lower bowl and right now UW is so hit and miss it's hard to say which team shows up. UW is playing like a young team with lots of self inflicted wounds. Even in today's colorado game they only scored 7 in the first half and had way too many penalties that killed drives. It wasn't the turnovers this week and they haven't turned it over much the last couple of games, but the penalties are just killing them. 

Honestly I hope every Pac team that makes a bowl wins, even Oregon. I'd just prefer they weren't winning the Rose ;-). The loss tonight did shake up the conference and everyone's bowl projections. I'd rather not go to the Vegas bowl if BSU is in it since we face them to open next season anyway.  

Congrats Stanford.  You played a great game. 

What an f'd up football world we have,  UCLA is in and us Trojans have to now beat ND to even think about saving some face of what has been or will soon be the 2012 football year. Barkley sucked. He has played poorly to the extent that not going out last year may have now cost him some big bucks (at least to start with) in his I assume pro football career. Last year he appeared to be a not risky 1st round pick. Not so sure now. He may still go first round but may be risky. To make a point, it was bad enough that he threw an interception on the very first play from scrimmage, but the play that struck me was a deep pass to Lee down the left side. He basically overthrew him and led Lee right to the defender. If he had thrown the ball short, Lee could have easily come back to the ball, caught it, and had enough room between himself and the defender to probably put a strong move on said defender.  Never-the-less, UCLA played a strong game, and virtually won it by tremendous kicking, particularly punting, and I guess I need not say much about our kicking game or lack thereof.


As things stand now, it looks as if Alabama is back in the driver seat, only needing to beat Georgia. Or I guess Georgia now has a realistic chance themselves. As for the PAC12 north, Oregon still has an outside chance. Stanford has to beat UCLA next week or their win this week will be in vain (so to speak). And if they do, then they get to play each other again the following week. Does anybody know what happens if Stanford loses to UCLA and Oregon St. beats Oregon? I would think highly doubtful, but heck, why shouldn't things get even more bizarre? I mean I really thought we should beat UCLA and Oregon win too. Shows you how much I know this cockamamie season. The BCS is now probably dreading the USC/ND matchup. That is unless because ND is independent, they really do not want them. And if so, maybe they still dread the matchup because they can't figure how to get rid of them if they win. Ya don't think Clemson is going to find a way into the game do you? Or perhaps Fla. St. (I guess they actually have the current edge having beaten Clemson)?


By some miracle, I suspect only a one loss Oregon and also winner of the PAC12 is still a viable option because we will have a slew of one-loss teams, and they probably cannot stomach two teams from the SEC again.   Life would be easy for them if Ohio St. wasn't on probation. Because KSt. doesn't get to play a CCG, I think they are definitely now toast. If USC beats ND, then I guess it would be Alabama or Georgia against Clemson or Fla St. A team from the ACC. I almost have to laugh/CRY about that possibility. However, we need a win against ND very badly. So why not SEC vs. ACC?  

Does anybody know what happens if Stanford loses to UCLA and Oregon St. beats Oregon?

Yes, I know.   Standord wins the North by virtue of the head to head tie breaker with Oregon and Oregon State all having the same Conference of 7-2.  The Bruins would host the CCG almost with the same scenario of head to head to breaker and having the same 7-2 Conference record.

So if everything goes perfect for the Bruins we can play our last three games on our home field where we have only lost one time and within a TD of a tie to the Beavers.

I know it's not likely, but at this point, it still can happen, so I'll hold out hope and who knows, stranger things have happened.

You might be surprised to hear me say this, but I am actually feeling a bit PO'd this morning. Yes I am happy to beat Oregon, no doubt, but if you look at the season as a whole, if Shaw plugs Hogan in to start with, we are probably undefeated this year and looking at a shot at the NC! Josh Nunes was so utterly ineffective, and I have absolutely no doubt that Hogan would of done enough in both the UW and ND games to get us the win. We were ahead in the 4th quarter of both games after all. A bit frustruating, but still a good win. That defense is awesome. I can think of probably 4 of them that should be playing on Sunday next year. At least next year looks promising.

Can't blame me can you?

Not at all, but its easy to see that you are heading for a disappointment. Big time.  Greed.