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January 4, 2013 2:43 am

12-1 likely finish #2 and BCS bowl win is hardly losing the year.
OlyDuck
SinceJun 18, 2008
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January 4, 2013 3:07 am

12-1 likely finish #2 and BCS bowl win is hardly losing the year.
History doesn't remember who #2 was. Was it a great year? sure, but it wasn't a year to remember. Oregon already had a fiesta bowl win, time to move on from that dance and do something of substance. were it not for a kicker Oregon would have had a chance at the only game that matters outside of the conference championship and the rosebowl. None of the bowls the rest of us went to matter either, but we had excuses to suck. Ducks just laid an egg. 
WizardHawk
SinceSep 25, 2006
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January 4, 2013 4:12 am

It was memorable year. Oregon"s coach was the first in history to go to 4 straight BCS Bowl games. Won back to back BCS Bowl games. How many programs can say repeat? Here"s a hint less than 5. When Chris Fowlr says Oregon has established themselves as a national power - it's a memorable year. Why you so jealous? Oh ya 9 in a row.
Observation 101
SinceOct 16, 2006
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January 4, 2013 10:33 am

Personally I still think Stanford belongs in the number 2 spot with Oregon 3. I know Stanford is not impressive, but they truly haven't been under Shaw. To me it seems as though his teams just play bland for most of the game except for a few series here or there which give them the victory. I think the biggest blunder was Kelly's coaching against Stanford which of course would've led to a better matchup of ND vs Oregon. Alabama got torched by a smaller version of Mariotta and the jv version of Chip Kelly's offense.
wazzufan31
SinceNov 10, 2006
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January 4, 2013 1:09 pm

The real bummer is if Stanford had beat EITHER UW of ND, they would of been in the NCG. They led both games in the 4th quarter, but couldn't close the deal. The ND game's ending is going to make me bitter for a long time. I believe Taylor got in on 4th down, but I am sure he did on 2nd down which they never reviewed for some reason.
drkato
SinceMar 30, 2008
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January 4, 2013 1:15 pm

but they lost the year Stanford Pac 12 champs ND NCs and Oregon exhibition bowl champs .... Pac 12 sucks .. ND owns the Pac 12 ... JUST THE FACTS
Yeah Gerry's PS3 said ND "owns" the PAC12. He played EVERY one of the PAC teams as ND and won all of em on his video game.


putz
mrwallace2ku
SinceOct 19, 2012
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January 4, 2013 2:38 pm

Not hard to be the only team to do something 4 years in a row in a system that hasn't been around more than a decade. Not like this is some long standing football tradition. No one said Oregon didn't have a great year, and in fact I DID say they had a great year. Why are you so hung up on what others think? Oregon was probably one kick away from a really good shot at the national title. That alone says it was a really good year, just not a special year to remember. Go enjoy your #2 ranking and stop worring about the haters. 
WizardHawk
SinceSep 25, 2006
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January 4, 2013 3:49 pm

No one said Oregon didn't have a great year...

Yes, Wiz, quite a few fans did including most honest Duck fans. We know Duck fans had their hearts set on the NCG and winning the NCG. We all know they should have. That world ended in the 14th week. What they did do adds up to a very successful season for anyone else. But the Ducks had their dream until the last week of the season and they flat blew it. Not even a ref to blame it on.  An inch from the NCG and a MNC, and they blew it.  A gigantic letdown. For those not Ducks fans, yes, it was indeed a great season.
NotNeutral
SinceOct 27, 2010
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January 4, 2013 5:11 pm

Fair enough double N. My thing is why do they take such exception to anyone pointing it out. Several of them have adamantly defended the position that they were better off losing to Standford and not winning the conf or going to the rosebowl than say losing to the beavs instead and still had the rest of that. Had they lost to anyone other than Stanford they would have won the conference and still had a chance at a better bowl if they think the RB is now a garbage bowl. BTW, they sure didn't think the RB was garbage when they FINALLY won one last year did they? Oh well, Oregon is in the rear view mirror now. Season over and with Kelly possibly going and sanctions likely coming by next season the landscape is probably going to look quite different in the north. Done with the past and looking forward to the future. It will be a loooong wait for that late august opening in the new stadium. 
WizardHawk
SinceSep 25, 2006
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January 4, 2013 5:37 pm

It will be a loooong wait for that late august opening in the new stadium.
Those pesky Huskies have nothing to lose and everything to gain Wiz. NOT l@@king forward to seeing what UW has in the tank next year. It's like waking up an economical China, turning the dogs loose when hunting season starts and another offseason of "riping" the QB fruit on the vine.

Toss in a spinkle of venue make-up with that fanbase...thank god we get you guys @ our place...talk about a hellhole to have to go play in. 
mrwallace2ku
SinceOct 19, 2012
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January 4, 2013 7:38 pm

If sark can find a way to beat BSU to open and UW goes 3-0 in OOC you can bank on sell outs the whole season in the new digs. You are right you don't want to be coming in this year. They worked on a design that still kept the sound reverb back to the field so it will still be the loudest place for an opposing team in the conference. I just don't know at this point if Sark will make the right call on who the opening day QB will be. I don't have a lot of faith in KP at this point. The rest of the team should be fine and with ASJ probably in his last year before going pro it will be one hell of a ride. 
WizardHawk
SinceSep 25, 2006
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January 5, 2013 1:05 am

It was memorable year. Oregon"s coach was the first in history to go to 4 straight BCS Bowl games. Won back to back BCS Bowl games. How many programs can say repeat? Here"s a hint less than 5. When Chris Fowlr says Oregon has established themselves as a national power - it's a memorable year. Why you so jealous? Oh ya 9 in a row.
Still minor achievements when you consider what the real prize is every year. Win the conference then win the NC. Oregon is the Dan Marino of College Football until you win the big one..... Great but still minus that ultimate prize
USC Fight On
SinceDec 5, 2011
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January 5, 2013 1:07 am

but they lost the year Stanford Pac 12 champs ND NCs and Oregon exhibition bowl champs .... Pac 12 sucks .. ND owns the Pac 12 ... JUST THE FACTS
This year they did and there is nothing you can say about it. Last year was different. Looking forward they lose a lot next year and well just have to wait and see. 
USC Fight On
SinceDec 5, 2011
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January 5, 2013 3:50 am

Ahh......fiesta fun fun fun.........

I see most negative Nancy's on here are still staying Oregon failed this year.  Hmm,

Oregon took out the #5 team in the Country in 12 seconds !!!!!!!!!!

Stanford struggled for a win against an unranked Badger team.

USC lost to a 6-7 Georgia Tech team.

UW was schooled by BSU.

UCLA blown off the field by 4th place Baylor.

OSU meltdown in Texas.

Arizona needs miracle to slide by Nevada.

ASU humiliates themselves by keeping their starters in mid way through the 3rd quarter with a 40 point lead. 

And, Oregon is the team that failed??????

You guys are nuts.  And, that is okay, be as crazy as you need to be.

The Sunrise balloon flight was outstanding, sunset horseback ride big hit with the children.....New Years dinner at Fogo De Chao, And a football game that was fun to be at with 45,000 depressed purple people after 12 seconds.

Although, I still hate the Stadium in Glendale, Fiesta is much better when played at the ASU stadium.  And, traffic after the game was absolute nightmare.  The big tailgate party was a total waste of 30 dollars.  And, it got downright cold the five nights I was in town.

And, the radio stations, and TV people just couldn't stop talking about how everyone in the NFL wants Chip Kelly.  Kelly is clearly going to get to rob someones bank and never have to work again if things don't work out.  Well played, Chip.

Of course, it wasn't Kelly that took the kickoff 94 yards to the house, was it? 

Ducks look to be a better team next year, I am already looking forward to a meaningless 5th consecutive BCS Bowl.  Hahahahahha

EverybodyDuck
SinceNov 11, 2007
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January 5, 2013 3:53 am

Welcome back EverybodyDuck!!!

Win The Mutha F'N DAY!!!

Well stated my friend and great to have u back on the boards.

Have a good time?

I am still down here in Scottsdale at a buddies.  

Stayed here until morning of gameday then bolted over to Glendale and whooped it up. 

Came back to Sdale and now I dont wanna go back just yet.  Boys r having a blast down here,, 
WhiteMamba
SinceOct 9, 2012
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January 5, 2013 5:19 am

Ducks just laid an egg.
12-1 and back to back BCS bowl wins isn't laying an egg.  Losing to Oregon for a decade straight has gotten UW fans all bitter.  At the end of the day only 1 team is champion.  This year wasn't Oregon's year.  I like our chances in 2013 with Mariota and Thomas.  I like UW's chances to pound sand.  Husky fans are still blaming 1998 for all their problems.  meh.


  
Orygun Quacks
SinceAug 22, 2006
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January 5, 2013 12:11 pm

ED,

A bit off in some your statements. Also, a little commentary on each bowl teams season re: expectations met and unmet.


Oregon took out the #5 team in the Country in 12 seconds !!!!!!!!!!

A bit of an exaggeration, but hey, you guys won, so it's to be expected. A solid season by the Ducks. However, when one considers that at worst, the Ducks were expected to lose to USC in the PAC-12CCG and get a Rose Bowl appearance (with USC in the NCG) and at best were expected to win the PAC-12 CCG and play for the NCG, the Ducks did not meet expectations.

Stanford struggled for a win against an unranked Badger team.

I wouldn't say struggled. It's not as if they were ever in danger of losing. It was a typical Stanford win. Not pretty, just a W. Considering that Stanford was expected to finish 2nd in the PAC-12 North and garner a possible Holiday Bowl bid and instead, ended up PAC-12 and Rose Bowl Champions.....this team exceeded expectations.

USC lost to a 6-7 Georgia Tech team.

Fitting end to easily the most bitterly disappointing season in all of cfb 2012. Did not come close to meeting even the lowest expectations.

UW was schooled by BSU.

A 2 point loss is hardly "schooled". The Huskies finished right about where most thought that they would. Met expectations.

UCLA blown off the field by 4th place Baylor.

It was not a good showing by the Bruins in the Holiday Bowl. However, considering most had them finishing 2nd (at best) to USC in the PAC-12 South and many had them 3rd or 4th in the PAC-12 South, this team exceeded expectations.

OSU meltdown in Texas.

Hardly a meltdown. It was a 4 point loss vs. a very good team. If they had gotten blown out.....THAT would have been a meltdown.

Arizona needs miracle to slide by Nevada.

Now you're just reaching in trying to find a way to criticize another team. Arizona exceeded expectations for their first season with a new coach.

ASU humiliates themselves by keeping their starters in mid way through the 3rd quarter with a 40 point lead.

Now you're turning yourself into Stretch Armstrong with that reach. ASU met expectations for their season.

And, Oregon is the team that failed??????

Technically......Yes, Oregon is a team that failed. You Ducks wanted a nationally relevant program. You wanted PAC-12 Championships and National Championships. In short, you wanted to be the USC of the Pacific Northwest. 

Apparently, what you didn't want, judging by your reactions to the criticism, was to actually be held to the standards that you wanted. Welcome to the world that USC has been living in for decades. If you start each season with the expectation that, at worst, you will be PAC-12 Champions and play in the Rose Bowl and expect National Championship consideration every season, then you have to expect to be criticized when you fall short, regardless of how many other teams would consider what you just accomplished, to be the best season in their teams history.

Oregon is at a bit of a crossroads right now. You can step fully into the world that teams like USC, Alabama, tOSU, etc. live in and just accept that anything short of Conference Championships are failures, or you can return to mediocrity and irrelevance.

The Ducks had a great season by the standards that you used to have. However, with the current standards that you have established for yourselves, you had a good season, but fell short of your goal.
trojanfan12
SinceAug 22, 2008
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January 5, 2013 1:10 pm

TF12 Don't bother trying to reason with ED, he is becoming the Smiles_id of oregon more and more. Quacks and Mamba can be talked to and respond to direct questions and comments, but ED has no ability nor desire to do so. You just won't get through to him. 

 12-1 and back to back BCS bowl wins isn't laying an egg.  Losing to Oregon for a decade straight has gotten UW fans all bitter.

Oregon laid an egg against Stanford and no amount of spin can change that. It has nothing to do with who else you beat or what bowl you won, your seasons goal was a national title and to lose that at home is a bit of an egg by anyones standard. The only people who care about how many times in a row someone has won is Oregon fans. I don't pay any attention to it and never have. Doesn't matter how many times UW beats someone in a row and never will. Only matter how they do in the current season. For all the talk you zeros have about others living in the past you sure do camp out there a lot. Just an observation. 

At the end of the day only 1 team is champion.  This year wasn't Oregon's year.

Exactly, now if you could convince ED of that some of the nonsense up here would go away. The zeds had a great season by any other standard, but none of you were looking at being happy with anything less than at least playing in the title game at the start of the season so by your own standards it wasn't your year. Agreed. 

 I like our chances in 2013 with Mariota and Thomas.

If you mean your chances of making another BCS bowl then maybe, but if Kelly goes the odds Oregon is in the title hunt have to go down don't they? I mean the zeros were a very good team under mike 'the thug maker' belotti, but it was Kelly that took them to the next level. The odds that the next guy can pick it up without missing a beat are not great and at the level you are at it only takes one minor step back to take the natty away. 

 I like UW's chances to pound sand.

A duck not liking the chances of UW to play well? There's a shock. I don't like their chances much either if Sark can't either fix Price or make the change at QB. If either of those happens I expect nothing less than a double digit win season and will not accept anything less. 

 Husky fans are still blaming 1998 for all their problems.

There is nothing I'm aware of that happened in the late 90's that had any impact of any kind on UW football. If there is anything to blame it was pretty much anything and everything that worthless excuse of an AD Barbara Hedges did. She blew up the program by selling out the football program in favor of womens soccer and softball. Then there was one failed HC hire after another that slowly drove them down to 0-12. The next AD after her brought in the boat anchor of the program in Willingham. Woodward has the program going in the right direction and nothing outside of the program is holding them back. So again I say I have no idea what you mean by 1998. Whatever it is, it is something in your head and nothing any UW follower even knows about. Only two people to hate for the downfall of the great UW tradition: Hedges and Hobert. Pure and simple. 









 

WizardHawk
SinceSep 25, 2006
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January 5, 2013 2:12 pm

Since this is a PAC 12 thread, do you realize if ND beats Bama the PAC will have the highest BCS winning % of all conferences that have participated in at least 5 games. See SEC we can beat our chests too.
Observation 101
SinceOct 16, 2006
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January 5, 2013 2:20 pm

Only two people to hate for the downfall of the great UW tradition: Hedges and Hobert. Pure and simple.
100% CORRECTAMUNDO WIZ!

Where is "SHE" now? Living @ the bottom of the sound supporting a pair of cement highheels I spose?

I look forward to the day the Huskies are "consistantly" relevant again and they were this year.

mrwallace2ku
SinceOct 19, 2012