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A sit down with bo

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A sit down with bo

February 5, 2012 3:33 pm

Intersting article from tom shatel about his convo interview with pelini. http://m.omaha.com/om/pm_23110/cont
entdetail.htm?contentguid=AQIrIw1 I hope I copy the link right I didn't on my phone if not its at huskermax and I the first link on the page. Very Intersting story give some insight on what bo did and issue that they talked about. Enjoy give me some feedback on what y'all liked or disliked about it.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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February 5, 2012 4:41 pm

BlkFlag - that was a great article.  How many times have you scratched your head and thought "what if" or "doesn't Bo work on this stuff in practice?" or "doesn't he understand that there's nobody with playing experience behind Martinez or Burkhead?".  At least its good to see that he DOES see the same things that we armchair QB's see and question. 

Lets just hope he learns that those things can make the difference between a good coach and a great coach, a good team and a great team.  Its worth more than a mention to a newpaper reporter.  It's worth investigating what techniques/practices you can implement to make a positive change.
oldstyl66
SinceSep 6, 2008
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A sit down with bo

February 5, 2012 6:01 pm

I'm not gonna lie I felt alittle better about the future after reading what they discuss. Let's hope talk becomes action but it was a great article almost like a trip thru Bo eyes and head.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 10:43 am

read that article this morning. I think interviews like this is what Bo needs to do more of. He's pretty good in just casual conversation, but doesn't take well to be up front of 30 reporters, not knowing what question is coming next. or the stupid reporters asking the same question 30 different ways. Let the guy talk and he'll give you some good insight and at a level/pace he's comfortable with it. 

NE_N_NJ
SinceDec 4, 2006
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 11:46 am

Very good point NJ, they had planned for only a 30 minute talk and it well over an hour. But Bo has to get over his media fright and open alittle bit.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 12:43 pm

It was a very good read... Shatel has the clout of working in journalism for a long long time so Bo really respects hims and will talk cadadly with him.  I'll bet you there is no way he would have given Dirk Chatelain or some of the other young bucks a shot like this.  I liked the conversation and where Bo is taking the program.  He has his standards set really high, both on the field and off the field... that's what we need.
footballnut
SinceAug 23, 2006
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 12:44 pm

sorry.... candidly not cadadly i'm not sure what happened there.
footballnut
SinceAug 23, 2006
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 1:31 pm

Nut, I was gonna ask next if anyone knew why Tom got the long sit down interview with Bo. If you look back at the article Bo gave some deep insight and answer question he normally ignores or doesn't answer. He even answer the qb situation which has been the hottest debate topic among husker fans. I like his high standard but I also know in college football talk is cheap so those standards need to show up on the field... Or we might be third fiddle again. My one thing I wish and want bad is an Identity on offense since 09 our defense has had to carry a large load. We become balance on offense and play like the 09-10 Defense we will win 11 games.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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A sit down with bo

February 6, 2012 4:15 pm

Man as I was reading through this thread every time I would have a thought and get ready to reply to it, it was already discussed by one of you guys in the next post I read, lol, good stuff!

NJ is exactly right when stating BO needs to do more of this.  The shorter his temper with the media, the worse the media will portray him which in turn will shorten his leash with Husker Nation.

And Mafia is exactly right in that talk is cheap.  While I would agree that reading this article boosted my optimism a bit I remember a lot of similiar things coming out in the off season last year.  This "talk" is nearing the end of it's rope and most Husker fans are going to start calling B.S. on it if results don't begin to pan out on the field.

Overall though, I though it was a great article and a great insight into the mind of BO.  I do agree completely with him on the Hail Mary being 100% the players fault.  You learn from the first time you ever play football to not let receivers get behind you on a play like that.  Regardless of whether or not the coaches happened to mention it before that particular play the players have to understand that.
SCHLINNIGAN
SinceDec 19, 2006
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A sit down with bo

February 7, 2012 10:39 pm

This "talk" is nearing the end of it's rope and most Husker fans are going to start calling B.S. on it if results don't begin to pan out on the field.
Gotta disagree with you a little bit--SCHLINNIGAN.  TO didn't outright win his first Big 8 crown until year 9 of his career and even then his overall record was 9-3.  TO didn't have to play in a twelve team league with 2 divisions--ever.  Nor did he have to recruit under the same conditions.  Bo had at best experience was was a DC.  Almost from the get go TO was being groomed by Devaney as the heir apparent. 

I will remind everyone here that Pelini was not my first choice as the hire to replace you know who.  Yet everyone seems to forget that it wasn't just the "Callahan years" that messed up this program.  So, it's been a decade or more of mediocrity and ineptitude.  No coach coming here is/was going to turn this around immediately--unless Nebraska was willing to offer a Saban or Meyer + six million (and I do believe that is what it would have taken) anyone who takes over a program with Nebraska's history of greatness and still following in TOs shadow, has got to have sufficient time to learn, adjust, correct & make the right decisions. 

I liked the interview and apparently so did Pelini because it went from 15 minutes to 90 minutes.  Fianally, give Shatel credit--he hasn't always been kind with Bo, but he's always been fair.  And I think that is why the inverview ended up being 90 minutes long.  Bo was more candid and open than any other time with any other interviewer. 
bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 7, 2012 11:26 pm

bigred... TO played in a 12 team league with two divisions his last two years as HC (and our last National Title.)

That being said, it's unfair to compare Bo with TO... for both's sake.  Bo is coaching in a different time and different dance than TO ever did.  The era of blogs, message boards, and internet broadcasting (let alone the over-blown recruiting coverage) make this job entirely different than it was in 1997.  However, it's still possible to win here and Bo is going to figure it out I think.  
footballnut
SinceAug 23, 2006
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February 8, 2012 12:03 pm

Gotta disagree with you a little bit--SCHLINNIGAN.  TO didn't outright win his first Big 8 crown until year 9 of his career and even then his overall record was 9-3.  TO didn't have to play in a twelve team league with 2 divisions--ever.  Nor did he have to recruit under the same conditions.  Bo had at best experience was was a DC.
I agree with most of what you are saying here and most guys on here are aware that I'm generally a pretty patient guy.  I'm by no means calling for Bo's head here but what I am saying is if we have another year or two of the same thing, i.e- 4 losses, a couple of them being blowouts, no championship to speak of then I'll be ready to call B.S. on all this hardcore offseason talk about being a "championship team", and I think "most" Husker fans would agree with me.  Every coach deserves 4-5 years to get everything in place and "learn on the go" if necessary.  After that there should be NO excuses and the real judging should begin.


Yet everyone seems to forget that it wasn't just the "Callahan years" that messed up this program.  So, it's been a decade or more of mediocrity and ineptitude
Don't know if this was in reference with me included or not but I certainly haven't forgotten.  Matter of fact I place just as much blame on Solich for this thing falling apart as I do Callahan.  Solich had the benefit of taking over a program that literally could not be in any better shape and in 6 years managed to deplete it of any semblance of dominance and talent.


SCHLINNIGAN
SinceDec 19, 2006
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February 8, 2012 12:10 pm

bigred... TO played in a 12 team league with two divisions his last two years as HC (and our last National Title.)
footballnut--I'm aware that TO had two years in his quarter century as HC in the Big 12.  My point was--that short of time tells us nothing of how he would have recruited/won titles in the long term in the Big 12.  I'm not taking anything away from TOs success, but the fact remains once Oklahoma & Texas had a resurgance in their respective programs, we went in the opposite direction.  One can put the blame solely who we had as HCs for a decade, but I don't think that is entirly accurate.  Because during that time many programs in the Big 12 were on the upswing.  No one knows what TO would have done (especially with the Texas restrictions on recruiting).  So, how long does it take to rebuild a program? 

That being said, it's unfair to compare Bo with TO... for both's sake.  Bo is coaching in a different time and different dance than TO ever did.  The era of blogs, message boards, and internet broadcasting (let alone the over-blown recruiting coverage) make this job entirely different than it
The very reasons you cited are the reasons for the comparrison.  With the 24/7 instant gratification media mindset today, it's unfair to any coach to expect an immediate turn around when rebuilding a program.  Now, how long should Bo get?  I don't know, but in referring back to my first post, TO was being groomed to be a HC.  Bo, wasn't nrcessarily.  TO had the advantage in working in the same conference his first nine years, Bo wasn't.

Again as I've said before, I wasn't initially on the Pelini bandwagon.  But no coach could undo the BS that we went through for a decade--overnight. 
bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 8, 2012 12:16 pm

Don't know if this was in reference with me included or not but I certainly haven't forgotten.  Matter of fact I place just as much blame on Solich for this thing falling apart as I do Callahan.  Solich had the benefit of taking over a program that literally could not be in any better shape and in 6 years managed to deplete it of any semblance of dominance and talent.
I agee in principle to this statement but I think a lot of the blame has to go to Steve Pederson.  He might be the worst Athletic Director in the history of division 1 athletics (See: Pitt situation).


 Every coach deserves 4-5 years to get everything in place and "learn on the go" if necessary
I agree with you again here, but in Bo's case i'm actually willing to add a 6th year in there.  Not only did he take ove a program that was struggling to maintain national relevance but when he seemed to be figuring his conference out and getting the players in place to compete at high level within that conference... he suddenly switched coverences.  Couple that with a pretty uninspiring first recruiting class where the coaching staff basically had to scramble to close it out and I think 6 years is a good barameter for Pelini and his program.
 
footballnut
SinceAug 23, 2006
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February 8, 2012 4:23 pm

I agee in principle to this statement but I think a lot of the blame has to go to Steve Pederson
I think SP deserves a ton of the blame with regards to the hiring process after Solich was fired and the ensuing pride of not admitting he ever made a mistake.  Solich's problems lied in his inability to recruit which came from a mindset that "we are Nebraska, we don't have to work hard to recruit" in my opinion.

I agree with you again here, but in Bo's case i'm actually willing to add a 6th year in there
Yeah that's why I referred to the next 2 years as being critical.  I'm with you on this as long as next year isn't an utter embarassment.  If it is, then can we honestly say to ourselves that it's gonna get much better??
SCHLINNIGAN
SinceDec 19, 2006
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February 8, 2012 5:33 pm

While we're giving Bo all these years to turn the ship around hoke turned Michigan around in one year and got a bcs game and won it. You can say yeah those were rich rod boys but same can go for Bo in 08-10. Michigan looked lost under rich rod defensively and too reliant on Robison offense wise. But yet hoke can turn it around that quick? Bet ya house Urban will do the same ESP with miller at qb and all that speed they have up there. I don't care bo to TO because it's different time and stuff has changed in those decades and years it's almost like comparing 90s bulls to show time lakers or old school Boston celtics. Not fair but yet I'm seeing it more??? Why. Nebraska was the school back in the days were not now. I'm sorry but it's time to put up or shut up I'm willing to hear out two more years. But I'm tired of everyone else having fast turn around and were on some decade plan to get back to the top. Enough with the excuse lets show people hat were nebraska the big red bully from the central plains. Michigan and osu are back if we keep giving excuse wisky n michst will join them as well as Iowa. I know i sound harsh but we need to man up and take what's ours
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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February 8, 2012 5:44 pm

I also want to say every coach deserves 4-6 years to turn program around. But I also believe some attention to certain areas nebraska would have some champ rings and bcs wins. It seriously seems like we're moving slower at this turning the program around thing compared to others. These next two years will define Bo like I said mich n osu is back michst n wisky arent going anywhere.its time to man up bigten ain't gonna lie down for us and it ain't the 90s anymore. Just saying we're Nebraska to recruits won't get it down we gotta show em on the field WHY WERE NEBRASKA
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008
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February 16, 2012 7:38 pm

While we're giving Bo all these years to turn the ship around hoke turned Michigan around in one year and got a bcs game and won it.

BlkFlagMafia--Is it really fair to compare the "recruiting classes" of Michigan and/or Ohio State to Nebraska?  Both those Big 10 schools pretty much ruled to roost for decades.  Even when RR was at Michigan, they had decent or better ranked recruiting classes than what Nebraska was getting.  I'm not big on recruiting rankings but what Hoke did at Michigan has alot to do with the talent that he inherited.  Bo didn't inheerit that much talent especially at the QB position.

 
Nebraska was the school back in the days were not now
   
And yet you state you don't want to compare Bo to Tom.  Still the above statement proves you are doing exactly that.  I am not trying to be argumentative, yet what you've said (at least for Bo is unfair). 

But I'm tired of everyone else having fast turn around and were on some decade plan to get back to the top.
 
What do you call a fast turn around?  Did Oklahoma?  Has Florida State?  How about Tennessee?  Notre Dame?  We don't even know if the fast turn aound at Michigan is permanent.  I'll submit to you that Bo (under TO's tuteledge--sp?, is doing pretty much what Dr. Tom did which was being patceint with his coaching staff .  The big difference between the two is that Bo is a defensive mind & TO was offense oriented.  For the most part, Bo has turned around the defense.  But as a HC if you're not offensive oriented, this turn around is going to take time.  Let's give it a couple more years before we hang him.
bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 18, 2012 11:07 am

Bo has turned the program around! Let's be for real here people. Bo is a good fit at Nebraska. The majority of the people posting in this particular board where creaming their pants when he got hired. I don't always agree with some of the things he does, but I'm sure glad we have him and not another rukus that we went through with the man who shall remain nameless. We may never have another undefeated season, we may never win another NC, we may never have the #1 recruiting class, but if we ever do, it'll be something special. We need to have some signature wins and I believe we're getting close in doing that. That will open doors to greater things to come. If you're impatient and want results now, then I suggest to root for one of the corrupt SEC teams. Pick a flavor, but don't expect NU to stoop to the standards of the SEC to have what you want.

Secondly, this isn't the Big 8. All of your expectations are based on that. We had a few good years at the beginning of the Big 12 merger and then the honeymoon was over. Do you think we will actually be as dominant in the B1G as we were in the Big 8? You're kidding yourselves and you're bashing a good coach in trying to justify your personal disappointment with the team. I would like for us to win every game. I get disgusted at blowout losses and I know we can play better. I would like to think that Nebraska has a lot to offer to a young recruit in wanting to play for the Big Red. I have the same feelings and share the same disappointments as most all of you. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree. It's all good. However; I stongly believe that we have a great coach in Bo Pelini. It wasn't like anyone was kicking the door down to coach the team. There we a few names thrown around before his hire, like Turner Gill and Houston Nutt. Where are they now?

Stick with Bo and he'll put the best team on the field for us each weekend, win or lose. We need to support our coach if we want to live up to being the greatest fans in college football. Don't put him in the same category as the guy before him. They're light years apart. We will have a magical season under him and hopefully it will get us the NC. The landscape of college football has changed dramatically and there are still changes going on. The coveted playoff system will make it much harrder to win a NC. Enjoy our rich history and traditions, but don't have unrealistic expectations that make us look like bad fans with questionable loyalty.
Blackshirts
SinceSep 20, 2006
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A sit down with bo

February 18, 2012 11:26 am

Bigred bo did have talent around him hence how he took a 5-7 team and won back to back 9 game season which could have been 10 win seasons. Callahan couldn't coach but he didn't leave the cupboard empty same with rich rod at Michigan. So your talent theory doesnt quite hold up. Not to mention michigan will be stuff with fast spread players for the next two years. What funny is your taking away what hoke did and how that defense step up a lot and how they won a bcs game. Your being alil wishy washy with saying one coach didn't have talent and then saying another coach great season was because of the previous regime. Name another school that switch coaches and won 18 games in two years and played in a conference championship game but didnt have talent left over from the other coach. I'm not comparing Bo to drTom not at all but is my system false.... Nope sure isnt. As for fast turn around take peek and open ya eyes and pick a school I assure Michigan isn't going anywhere as you said they have been the big dogs in the bigten checking their recruiting class and their back. Same as osu wisky will go down a notch same as michst but they will still win 8-10 games depending on home n road games. You can give bo a couple years that's fine dont complain when the rest of the bigten passes us. Were not recruiting as hard our offense is still having issue against good defense and out defense was lost a lot last year. I'm not calling for a coaching change I'm saying we gotta step up bc the days of not having a top25 recruiting class is over. It's no secret how many sec teams are in the top25 recruiting same as the bigten and big12. Bo has yet to show the CEO role that coaches need to have.... Probably has something to do with hiring fairly new staff. If you look hoke staff at Michigan there's experience for years and plenty to go around. Also i want to say the teams you mention those teams have gone thru multiple coaches and their time has passed them by. ND TENN won't. Be that team again OU had a fast turnaround, FSU Is hard to predict but they have a lot of talent and speed to their disposal.
BlkFlagMafia
SinceDec 10, 2008