Sterling Moore.

The first comment is by Rapid Reports, a well respected column that know football, the second by blogger Isaiah4110, a Rollie Fingers avatar that has no clue in how to evaluate talent in any field.

Haha, I'm sorry rodmoney, but it seems to me that you didn't read my post. Let me try one more time to spell it out for you:

I was not "hatin' on" Sterling Moore, and I certainly never said I hated him. Moore was cut because he was the most expendable defensive back. He was not good enough to make the 53 man roster out of camp and was the most likely defensive back the Raiders would have been able to hold on to via the practice squad until he was ready. I actually stated, very clearly, that I hope the Patriots cut Moore so he can come back home.

Regarding the Super Bowl itself, I have no idea what game you were watching. I never once saw Moore with blanket coverage on a receiver and repeatedly saw him get burned. Every time the ball came his way he was at least a couple yards off the receiver and having to react and play catch up. Yes, 9 times out of 10 that would have been pass interference call on any Raiders DB. Only a fool would fail to admit that. I saw him get burned deep one play (Mario Manningham catch out of bounds for an incompletion) followed immediately by him giving too big a cushion and giving up the easy catch. A little while later Moore got beat deep badly by Manningham again, and Manningham managed to stay in bounds.

Look, I'm not saying I dislike Moore as a person, and I'm not saying he cannot or will not ever be a good player. As I said earlier, I believe Al Davis saw potential in him. That is why he was originally signed as an UDFA.

Lastly, if Moore had actually provided solid man coverage the majority of the game then I would not have cared how many catches he gave up. If the passes Manningham caught had been in spite of tight coverage by Moore then I would have given Moore his props. I would have had no problem admitting my earlier analysis of his regular season stats (or lack thereof) was incorrect and that he was a good player. The fact of the matter is though, DeMarcus Van Dyke had consistently better coverage on perennial Pro Bowler Larry Fitzgerald last preseason than Moore on Manningham in the Super Bowl. Who was all over DVD's case in the preseason, going so far as calling him a wasted pick and a bust and saying he should be cut? Compare the videos and it is very obvious who was the better cover corner.

Man up and admit you were wrong, or you will lose what little respect I have left for you.

The fact of the matter is though, DeMarcus Van Dyke had consistently better coverage on perennial Pro Bowler Larry Fitzgerald last preseason than Moore on Manningham in the Super Bowl. Who was all over DVD's case in the preseason, going so far as calling him a wasted pick and a bust and saying he should be cut? Compare the videos and it is very obvious who was the better cover corner.

Are you kidding me, DVD? This goes to show how ignorant you are pertaining to evaluating talent. What's the use of having this so called coverage you are talking about if the wr still catches the ball? Van Dyke had no idea where the ball was when Larry caught it. No ball skillz whatsoever. I see that you were careful to omit the Saints debacle in which he had to feel like he was Joan of Arc the way he was torched beyond recognition. I go with highly respected columnists who like Jerry McDonald and Steve Cockran who were shocked that Moore was cut from this team despite the high praise he was recieving for his play in camp as well as in the preseason games. The asinine statement you make about Moore being the most expendable back when when we had trash like Joe Porter and later Ron Parker who was signed when Moore was released from the practice squad really tells just how of a talent evaluator Hue, Al and Isaiah4110 really are: pathetic.

It's pretty obvious that rod is never going to get over Sterling Moore getting cut

DVD is better in coverage than Moore, DVD just has to learn how to turn his head around and make a play on the ball and he'll be all good. I dont think anybody can deny that DVD almost always had good coverage but the problem was he never tried making a play on the ball but that will come in time.

DVD is pretty good in coverage but he couldn't tackle a Raiderette.

Rod, you already offered up a blatant lie in this thread trying to support your case.  Let this thread die.

I think a thread should be made not only for every game Sterling Moore plays but for every play he makes. Then we can make another thread every time Hue has an interview. Not just football interviews I mean even if he interviews to work the x ray for the TSA somebody better post it and I want pictures too. I can't believe nobody has posted pictures of Hue getting his toenails painted at Lu Lu's house of nails already. Raider fans you're blowing it.

Still talking about Sterling Moore, who I remind you, PLAYS FOR THE Patriots. He is so far removed from our team it's ridiculous, let's PLEASE move on.

really tells just how of a talent evaluator Hue, Al and Isaiah4110 really are: pathetic.

First off, you are flat out not a Raiders fan and never were. Henceforth, nothing you say regarding the Raiders and their talent carries any weight until you acknowledge the greatness (not to be confused with perfection) Al Davis displayed.

Secondly, I'm flattered that you would put me on the same level as the late, great Al Davis. Seeing how he is the greatest man to ever grace the NFL with his presence, I will humbly step down a notch so I can acknowledge how truly great he was as a coach, owner, and GM. He could evaluate talent like no other and there is no way I could ever compare to him.

Lastly: This is all that ever needs to be pointed to when rodmoney claims someone else does not know anything about evaluating or developing talent.

^^^^owned lol

Whatchoo talking about Isaiah?

Rodney Hudson, Dwayne Harris, Davon House, Johnny Patrick, Ben Ijalana, Virgil Green would have made a better draft class.

That's not fair...  If we went back and looked at every prospect I said would be good we could have a on of laughs.


Then again, I never blatantly lie to try and prove a point. 

I see I'm in the minority here, but I thought we didn't give Moore a chance. He played well enough in preseason to at least, in my opnion, stick on the practice squad. I'll admit, I didn't see a lot of him but from what I did see, he played well. I saw him against the Ravens and he did save the Pats to get them into the Super Bowl. And yes, he didn't have a great game there, but the guy is a rookie. I don't remember Nnamdi burning up the scene as a rookie and he was a first round draft pick. Who's to say at this point, but to go from the practice squad to a starter for a defense that did start to come around toward the end of the year does say something about the guy. To judge him now is a little unfair.
I also think that because Rod Money is not the most popular poster on the board and so I think by default a lot of us are just going to jump on his back no matter what he says. I would like to point out, that I don't agree with everything (most of what) the guy says either, but just looking at Moore from a completely objective standpoint, I thought the Raiders gave up on him too quickly. I appreciate all your opinions, and I hope you can respect mine as well.


SILVER AND BLACK!!! 

Crabtree, better? He didn't even want to come to the Raiders. DHB had a terrible WR coach and a terrible offensive system geared to running the ball. JBust, Cambell, the dumpoff king,or noodle armed Gradowski  throwing to him. Although it took 3yrs his pick is paying off. I think you are wrong about trading Carson, He has the field vision and touch on his passes that we have not seen since Gannon. Cambell has a slow drop, slow wind up, and terrible field vision.

I see I'm in the minority here, but I thought we didn't give Moore a chance.

You aren't in the minority, that's the point.

Most folks wanted to keep him.  Most folks (including Steve Corkran) thought he played very well in preseason.  Most folks thought it was a mistake to let him go.

Yet one person tries to come off like they were the only one to think it, and that other posters bashed him for claiming it, and not he makes thread after thread talking up his insight in the face of all the haters...

...And thus the backlash, for that's what this thread was... 

He also talks Sterling Moore up, making him out to be this amazing defensive back. I want to say (could be remembering wrong here) that at one point rodmoney said Moore was better than any cornerback the Raiders had on the roster, including Stanford Routt. Maybe I'm misquoting him there, but that is the impression I have gotten.

Fact:

Rod slurps Sterling Moore like the media slurps Tim Tebow


I don't remember one person on this board that thought we should have cut Moore. I remember people thinking it was a bad move, then those people moved on. Well, all except one guy that proceeded to make 750 trillion threads acting like he was the only one that thought it was a bad move

Isnt it ironic or moronic or Nimrodish that the same poster constantly whining about Moore being cut also cried a blue streak when Stevie Brown was cut. Brown disapeared into the sunset and not a peep about him, instead the focus went to Moore, who like Brown was cut several times and picked up by teams, but was also passed over by many teams not just the Raiders since they where both free agents once being released. But never a mention of Brown. Hmmm.

Crabtree, better? He didn't even want to come to the Raiders. DHB had a terrible WR coach and a terrible offensive system geared to running the ball. JBust, Cambell, the dumpoff king,or noodle armed Gradowski  throwing to him. Although it took 3yrs his pick is paying off. I think you are wrong about trading Carson, He has the field vision and touch on his passes that we have not seen since Gannon. Cambell has a slow drop, slow wind up, and terrible field vision.

Doesn't matter if Crabtree wanted to come here or not. If he got paid what Bey did he'd love it here. I'm sure other players weren't happy to be selected by their perspective teams but that contract will take away that thought. I will admit he really didn't have much to work with and I do fault Al Davis for rushing him out there when it was obvious he had no reason being on the field.

As for Carson he is a decent qb, not nowhere close to what Hue foolishly gave up for him as well as what he is being paid here. Never stated he doesn't throw a beautiful ball because he does, more so to the other team for he threw more int's than td's in the nine games he started here. Campbell is more deliberate and wind up but I must say that he does have decent field vision and most importantly does not turn the ball over nearly as much as Carson does. Carson has no mobility and no awareness ad far a knowing he is about to be nailed. He has more losses than wins and if you are supposed to be so much better than Campbell you should have at least finished with a winning record as a starter here.

We were 4-2 when Campbell went down and 4-5 was Palmer. For a 1st and 2nd rd pick to go along with a Fort Knox contract that is far too much to give up for a qb that is on the wrong side of 30 and hasn't had much success in the league in 5 yrs. If we could get a 2nd and 3rd rd pick for him Reggie will jump on it IMO.

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