Anyone else NOT want Diggs?

    I really dont want Stefon Diggs. As bad as we need receivers, we need to rid ourselves of self absorbed jerks even more. So, I think that leaves Diggs out. Im tired of hearing people defending these kids who try to push themselves in to the spotlight.  Some people claim these kids are taking their time to make a big decision.   BS!    2500- 3000 other kids made the same choice without having to hold out a week or two after signing day. Was their decisions any less important?  This jerk has had about 2 years to make a decision and his waiting around to do so is nothing but a way for him to stroke his own ego and make himself the center of attention. if something had happened in his life, like a death in the family or something, I could see him pushing back a decision but this is obviously a case of a kid being a self absorbed drama queen. Anyone else notice how kids like this, who wait until well after signing day to sign, have worked out for other teams? Pryor was the one signing late in 2008 and got OSU put on probation, Bryce Brown signed late in 2009 and then left Tennessee, in 2010, Seantrel henderson signed with USC and never played a down before leaving for Miami. Sorry, I dont want idiots like these on UFs roster. Let him go to OSU.

um i think ur on your own on this one bud. i want him. badly. we need him. badly.

      Tennessee thought they needed Bryce Brown badly. Turns out he didnt contribute much of anything to their program. USC thought they needed Henderson badly. He never played a down. OSU would have killed innocent children to get Pryor, he ended up turning the program upside down. How can people not see a pattern with these jackarses? This guy is just rated high. It doesnt mean he will turn out to be anything special. Deonte Thompson was rated high. He didnt turn out worth a crap. In the end, good teams play for each other, not for themselves. This guy comes off like someone who is all in to himself. People need to learn that football is the ultimate TEAM game and a douchebag here and a douchebag there can ruin it for the whole team. There is no guarantee this guy will ever pan out but there is a pretty good chance he will be a total jerk once he gets here.

Seems like a specail player, in high school. Looks a little under sized for the SEC. But, a lot of kids bulk up and go through that final growth spurt in college, so he may blossum. 

We need receivers that can produce. If Muschamp and Pees think he's the guy, then they need to land him. Sure there is a chance he'll be a total jerk and "ruin it for the whole team", but then again, it can't get much worse than last season. I don't see a big difference between a losing (SEC) season and loosing every game. Either way it is an unacceptable failure. So why not try to get the guy and give him a chance? Anyway, that "team thing" is what the coaching staff are supposed to be cultivating. If they are worth their salaries, they will find a way to assimilate the dude into the team. If not, they'll bench him and he'll transfer. I don't see a down side on this one.

What makes you think the Gators have a shot at him? I hear he's a lock for Maryland, or at least Maryland's to lose... 

Don't know Diggs well enough to know why he has waited to make his decision. I also do not know him well enough to call him a jerk or not. I personally have no problem with him waiting to make the decision. He is not breaking any laws or rules and it is a very bid decision. This is one of the biggest decisions he will make in his life.

I do know that UF is  short on talent at the wide receiver position. IMO he is worth the risk.

Sure there is a chance he'll be a total jerk and "ruin it for the whole team", but then again, it can't get much worse than last season

      This team seems to be headed in the right direction with or without him. I just hate to see us add more selfish players. Part of the reason the last two seasons have been so bad is an extreme lack of team chemistry and the selfishness of some players.

Anyway, that "team thing" is what the coaching staff are supposed to be cultivating. If they are worth their salaries, they will find a way to assimilate the dude into the team. If not, they'll bench him and he'll transfer.

        The fact they are supposed to be creating a team first culture is why I dont want a kid like this. Coaches always say they are for creating a team first atmosphere. Ive never heard one say they arent trying to create a team first atmosphere. However, when you bring in the wrong kids, the results are just the opposite.

I don't see a down side on this one.

 Well, lets take Terrelle Pryor. Lets say Diggs thinks he is entitled to some sort of compensation since he obviously thinks his decision is more important that 99.9% of the other kids decisions were, maybe he will feel entitled.  Lets say he does the things Pryor did and we end up on probation. Lets say he is an egotistical cancer for the team and causes bad blood in the locker room of a team that should be improving. We saw some of the same stuff with players like Rainey, Easley, and Powell. Bad blood caused internal friction and a team that could have played a lot better played like crap. Im not here to rip current players but people were dancing in the streets when we got Powell and halfway through his career he has been average at best. Easley was another supposed "got to have" player. He stays off sides, even in critical situations, and seems more interested in dancing on the sidelines than playing within the system. Furthermore, when Powell, Easley, and floyd and their other recruiting class mates showed up on campus there was immediate bad blood between them and the upperclassmen because the freshmen had a sense of entitlement. What happened???? We went in the tank and havent come out yet.  You said it yourself, the past couple seasons have been a total failure and we did it with a group of supposed superstars. There is always a downside to bringing in cancers. Just my opinion.

 We see this kind of stuff all the time in football. A supposedly good player can come in and add absolutely nothing to your team. Look at the Dallas Cowboys when they brought in Terrell Owens. Did they get better? Nope. The Patriots when they brought in Chad Ochoidiot this year. Did they get any better? Did he even really contibute? Nope. We have seen it on our own team with some of the underclassmen we have now. I can name big time recruit after big time recruit on this roster who is either average or sub par.

What makes you think the Gators have a shot at him anyways?

According to the major recruiting sites like Rivals and Scout, the gators have been in the lead for him for a long time and was almost a lock before meyer got the OSU job. However, Diggs hasnt said that himself.

This is just my opinion on the subject but, like I said, Ive seen this play out way too many times to believe Im wrong on this. Maybe he will show up and be a model citizen and teammate and be a superstar. Somehow, I think it will go wrong somewhere down the line and it just wont work out the way people are hoping it will with this kid.

I do know that UF is  short on talent at the wide receiver position. IMO he is worth the risk.

 There is no doubt we are short on talent and numbers at the WR position. He may turn out to be great. I just see a greater chance of him ending up being a black eye for the scholl than being a valuable addition. Obviously, this is all speculation and I could be wrong.

gatorman-

  what does bryce brown and stefon diggs have in common? nothing. not sure where u were trying to go with that one. he transfered for family reasons. and we do need diggs, thats not up for debate. we need recievers badly.

 and where do u get your info on diggs being cocky? do u know him personally? maybe he is taking the extra time to make sure he is making the right choice. ever think about that? people get so caught up with signing day, the kids have longer. just because he chose to wait longer doesnt automatically make him cocky or a 'jerk'

 and i would like to know where u found your information to come to the conclusion there is a better chance of him becoming a jerk rather than panning out as u say. did this kid nail your girl or something? you need to calm down.

I believe the media frenzy that whips up around these kids is a good part of the problem.  They are followed, called day and night, singled out to feel they are above the rest.    It's no surprise that some of these young men become addicted to the attention.  Who among us doesn't want to feel special sometimes?

I still remember the sillyness that surrounded the Terrell Pryor circus.    It becomes an ego thing.     If he wasn't going to choose OSU, then for God's sake he'd better not choose Michigan.   And yes he was talented, but he was also very immature.   After an interception when quarterbacks are on the headset to the coaches upstairs, Pryor would be off by himself sulking on the bench.   You could also tell he was not a true "teammate".....it was all about Terrell.

Stefon Diggs must be enjoying his moment in the sun, let's hope he can adjust when the spotlights go dim.

Washington Post likes him to choose Maryland:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs
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and we do need diggs, thats not up for debate.

It is very much up for debate. Thats why its being debated. Once again, fans are blinded by so called 5 star talent. Who knows if he is even that talented? Once again, Deonte Thompson was a 5 star receiver also. I guess it isnt debatable that we could have done without him?

and where do u get your info on diggs being cocky? do u know him personally? maybe he is taking the extra time to make sure he is making the right choice. ever think about that? people get so caught up with signing day, the kids have longer. just because he chose to wait longer doesnt automatically make him cocky or a 'jerk'

Blah blah blah. Thats what all the apologists say about these kind of kids. Ever wonder why the three star kid deciding between Duke and Vandy never holds out for weeks after signing day? I guess their decisions are less important than Diggs? Its a weak argument to say he is just taking his time with his decision when he has had 2 years to do so already and why is it always a "5 star" type player who is holding out. You are entitled to your opinion but let it be clear that I am entitled to mine and mine is backed by similar examples and common sense.

did this kid nail your girl or something? you need to calm down.

Calm down?  Join me in reality. I think you are the one that needs to calm down. Im simply stating my opinion on these kids who hold out and you are making childish statements about him nailing a girlfriend or something. Get off this kids jock. You seem like the type of fan that creates these egotistical monsters. If you dont agree with me, fine, but dont satrt making immature statements and then telling someone who is simply debating a point to "calm down".

I believe the media frenzy that whips up around these kids is a good part of the problem.  They are followed, called day and night, singled out to feel they are above the rest.

  No doubt

.You could also tell he was not a true "teammate".....it was all about Terrell.

    Exactly. And in the end, he hurt the program more than he helped it. Can nyone argue OSU had a better team when he got there than when he left? Unfortunately, some fans see these high school kids as saviors and can not be convinced that bad character and selfishness can sometimes cancel out talent. They will make every excuse for a kid until he does hurt the program and then they condemn him. They should have seen the problem coming from a mile away. Congrats on being able tocall it just like it happened.

    I guess its just the nature of some fans to get to wrapped up in players and even COACHES. Urban Meyer is a perfect example. I thought he was a good hire for Florida and think he did a good job for the majority of the time he was here. However, I was always weary of his character. He lied when he left Utah to come to Florida. He told countless lies while he was at Florida. But most of UFs fans couldnt bear to hear anyone call him out for it. I called him out a few times on this website and got grilled by my own teams fans for simply pointing out facts and cautioning people of what might happen. The same thing is already happening on this thread. Then, when Meyer left, all the sudden, everyone could see what I had been saying all along, that the guy is dishonest at best. Now, he is at OSU, after he called the notion that he would do something like that "ridiculous". Meanwhile, OSU fans are drooling all over him when just a couple years ago, most of them hated him and was calling him a liar themselves. Its sad that some people get so wrapped up in their team that they cant see the obvious truth through their team colored glasses.

Washington Post likes him to choose Maryland:

Thats the latest rumor.  For a long time it was Florida. Then, when he visited OSU, it became OSU. Now that he very recently visited Maryland, the latest trendy pick is Maryland. We will know soon enough.

Gatorman-


 how do we know if he is evcen talented? have u watched any of his highlight films? seriously any of them? if you have then you wouldnt be asking that question. you keep bringin up deonte thompson being a 5 star reciever. cool dude. thats one example. what is your point? yes there are 5 stars that dint pan out but more times than not a player with a 5 star ranking is talented. 5 star athletes pan out more often than not. but go ahead and sound like a broken record and bring up one example. just go watch his highlight film. and if u can honestly say hes not talented then you do not know football.


and know i dont wonder why 3 star athletes dont decide after signing day, because i know why. you show me a 3 star athlete that has as many offers as Diggs. go ahead and find me one please. most of those 3 star kids are lucky to have 5-10 offers, diggs has over 20. wouldnt you say that would make the decision a little harder? but of course your opinon is based on common sense as u say. i guess mine is just usless rambling then right? is it that hard to believe some kids just want to think about it more than others? this is a big opportunity in his life, so even if it is more than him just wanting more time then so be it. hes earned it so if he wants to sit back and enjoy it a little bit longer than so what? why does it bother you so much?


and im sorry but im on nobodys jock. you call me out for making childish statements then turn around and make one right back. way to take the high road pal. talk about hypocrisy at its finest. and i dont like to create ' egotistical monsters' but whatever makes you feel better. and i will tell someone to calm down when there life revolves about ranting about an 18 year old kid on a message board because he decided to take an extra week to make a decision that will affect his life forever. how you can jump to a conclusion about a kid you have never met personally is beyond me.         

Im done with you. Im not going to argue with someone who claims my life "revolves around" these kids when obviously you visit this website a million times more than I do. I have my opinion and you have yours. You are welcome to yours, if you dont like mine, hit the road and get off my thread.

yea exactly. the fact that you let an 18 year old kids decision fluster you says alot. sorry that everyone doesnt agree with you. i forgot your always right. i apologize for even suggesting that you may be wrong. and how exactly is it obvious i visit this website a million more times than you, when you reply to my messages? lol have a good day.

You are just exhausting. Thats why Im not going to argue with you. You totally miss the point of the entire thread. You seem to miss the point of everything. You think the kids decision flusters me? No, dealing with people like you fluster me.  I hate dealing with people who just cant seem to comprehend the point of an debate and instead try and dissect minor points which arent relevant to the overall topic. Peoplelike that just waste time. I could poke holes in what you say all day but it will never make a difference so why try? Example: You say 3 star prospects never get 20 offers. Heck, some of the players Florida just signed were 3 star players and had that many offers or close to it! So why bother? Why bother arguing with you? You will miss the point in the end anyways.

and i have been poking holes in all your points and all u do is act like your right and i make no points. so could i not say the same thing about u? and really 3 star kids have over 20 D-1 offers? when i say that i mean from bcs schools. come on man dont be dumb. every big school in the country offered Diggs. no schools from the meac and c-usa. Diggs can pick any school he wants, i would say thats a pretty tough decision.

 and by the way not one 3 star prospect had 20 offers that florida signed. some were close but hey guess what? diggs had almost double the offers as the highest 3 star florida signed.

  but hey what do i know? after all you can 'poke holes' in what i say all day. i give up Gatorman. you are right and i wish i had half of your knowledge.

 bottom line is this. who cares when this kid makes his decision? there isnt one rule that says you must sign on signing day.

 and i understand every point of a debate, isnt that what we are doing right now? every point you post in a message that i 'dissect' is relevant obviously or why would you post it if its not 'relevant' to the overall topic?

  YOUR the one who needs to get over themselves.

Lets try this and see if you start to understand.

you keep bringin up deonte thompson being a 5 star reciever. cool dude. thats one example. what is your point?

 Lets take this for example. Yes, Deonte is just one example. What am I supposed to do? Look up every 5 star that ever busted??? Everybody with any intelligence at all knows 5 star players end up being disappointments all the time. I really didnt find it necessary to waste my time listing all of them but to debate someone like you, apparently you have to. I can list recent big time players who have havent lived up to the hype, like Mack Brown and Omar Hunter(was touted by Meyer to be as big of a star player as tim Tebow), or I can go way back to Spurriers day and list players like Steve Shipp and Bobby Sabelhaus. But you probably dont even know who those players are.
 
 Then you say watch film of a HIGH SCHOOL game and if I dont see he is talented, I dont know football? Really? Wow. You should really get a job as a recruiting guru because ALL 5 star players look great on film in high school!  Thats how they become 5 star players. Even 4 star and 3 star players look great against high schol competition. If it were as easy as looking at film and being able to tell the kid will be great simply by looking at high school film, why do kids ever bust? Why do coaches ever miss on a kid? This is the exact type of ignorance Im talking about. You look at high school film and think you know everything when, in fact, you dont know crap. If you were that great at evaluating talent, you would have a job at scout or rivals instead of spending your time here. Diggs may turn out to be great o he may bust. Its that simple and NOBODY knows anything different, they just think they do.

  The point of this thread is..............most of these kids, in fact, almost ALL of them, that have held out until well after signing day have ended up being more trouble than they were worth for the team that finally got their commitment. That is FACT. Not opinion. If you still think you want Diggs, fine, hopefully he will be great if he picks Florida. However, based on recent history, he will end up being a disappointment in context to the hype surrounding him. Is that really that hard to understand? Is it really that hard to see why someone would just rather take a pass on him? The word is OSU just took a pass on Devonte Neal. Looks like some schools who have already been burned by players like this may be taking notice. You would have to be a fool not to.

 and by the way not one 3 star prospect had 20 offers that florida signed. some were close

Which is exactly wht I said, they were close. And thts just the 3 stars that florida signed.But who cares? This is another PERFECT example of what Im talking about. Instead of debating the topic of the thread, you are continuously debating whether a 3 star kid had 20 offers or just 18. WHO CARES?!?! Thats besides the point anyways. Thats why you are just a waste of time. The overall point goes over your head and instead of debating the merits of players with inflated egos, you want to debate pointless crap like whether someone had 17,18, 21 or 23 offers. At which point. continuing to debate you is pointless and a waste of time