MAJOR TRADE PROPOSAL BULLS-LAKERS-CELTICS

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Bulls trade:
Luol Deng and CJ Watson to the Lakers

Bulls trade Carlos Boozer, Omer Asik our first round pick this year and the Charlotte Draft Rights to the Celtics (the Charlotte option is top 14 protected this year, top 12 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 8 protected in 2015, and wholly unprotected in 2015, the way Charlotte is going and with MJ at the helm, that could be a major coup in a few years).

Lakers trade
Pau Gasol to the Bulls

Celtics trade
Ray Allen and Keyon Dooling to the Bulls

Why this works for the Lakers: they plug in their massive needs for the SF and PG spots, they do drop at the PF spot, but have McRoberts and Murphy (and even Metta World at PF who are all better at the 4 than their gaping holes in PG/SF) on board so should be able to proceed (they don’t need Pau like htey have in the past becuase of Bynum being healthy—or at least they’re not quite using Pau enough). They get younger with Deng (26) and CJ (27) and fill those holes.  I know everyone now finally knows about Luol Deng, but I'll add in that C.J. Watson is becoming a stud now that he's got the Nellie-ball out of his system, he can score very effectively esp when he gets more PT, he can pass, and he can defend.  His loss is huge for the Bulls esp with Rose having the toe and back issues, but at least Dooling once was a very solid defender.....CJ's a luxury to have, and a nice luxury to have, but I'd rather have what we get in this deal, and you have to give up something.  A backup PG backing up the MVP of hte league, isn't really too telling.

Why this works for the Celtics. They so desparately need size and need future youth assets, they get both.  They lose a punch they had in free agency next year we’re they’d now have $48M tied in for Pierce-Boozer-Rondo-Bass, instead of having $33M but needing to get someone as good at least as Boozer and other pieces isn't so easy.    They may not be done (they seem to be and have been shopping the tranny alien quite a bit, which may still happen in another move), but they get some much needed size and some potential down the line. I don’t think this hurts them in the now, and may help them later, esp with that pick.  I mean I think Boozer is solid (he is, when we utilize him on offense he's effective as hell.  Bulls don't use him enough there, his 20+ PER, 53% shooting, etc are all in line with his Jazz days, he rebounds almost everything possible (which has hurt Noah's preBoozer top 3 rebounding rates, but that's fine), he's a team player, never complains, he's just on a deep team in CHicago and we've been saving his minutes for the playoffs (he's averaging 30MPG instead of roughly 35 he had in Utah, that's the only change in him).  I wouldn't give Boozer up for nothing, he's good, believe me he's good.  Carlos Boozer is made for Rajon Rondo type of a pass first PG.

Why this works for the Bulls: We add another shooter (who also is the best in the game in Ray Allen, this is contingent on Ray Ray signing a 2 year extension with the Bulls for a reasonable rate).  Ray Allen was almost a top tier defender in Thibs system--a dramatic improvement there from his Sonics days, and I think even if he's 37, he still can do that, he really hasn't tapered off at all post those Sonics ankle injuries (he's not quite what he was in Seatle or for the Bucks, but he really is about the same player today as he was 3-4 yrs ago in Boston).  I think a Ray Allen-Richard Hamilton (risk is Hamilton has barely played) wing duo with Derrick Rose at the helm would be unstoppable, Ray and Rip would basically assure spacing for Rose to do his thing.  Plus on the inside Gasol is just so gifted offensively (he can score inside and out, and get easy scores--Boozer's a helluva O player, and actually numbers wise been better than Gasol on that end, but Boozer's O game is more predicated on the mid range jump shot than the inside game that Gasol has and uses more.  Boozer has good, solid footwork to have more of an inside game, but just doesnt). 

Bulls post trade:
PG: Rose-Dooling-Lucas III
SG: Allen-Brewer-Korver-Hamilton

SF: Hamilton (risk is he needs to get healthy, but Brewer and Korver can fill in in spots if he isnt).  I know Lebron can have his way with Hamilton, but conversely Allen and Hamilton will force Wade and Lebron to keep an eye on them, off of Derrick Rose...-Brewer-Korver-Allen-Butler

PF: Gasol (20)-Gibson (28)
C:Noah-(34)-Gasol (14)

Lakers post trade
Watson-Blake (when healthy)-Fisher
Bryant and I don’t know I guess Barnes
Deng-Barnes-World Peace
McRoberts-Murphy-World Peace
Bynum

Celtics post trade
Rondo-Bradley
Pietrus-Daniels
Pierce-Daniels-Pavlovic
Boozer-Bass-Wilcox
Garnett-Asik-Steisma and I guess O’Neal…plus picks from CHicago down the line.

In the end,

I don't see the Lakers doing better going after Ramon Sessions, Gilbert Arenas, etc than C.J. Watson--who just might be the best backup PG and should be starter in the league, or at worst second to Mo Williams, but I think at the same level or above.  Luol Deng has been a revelation as Thibs and Rose finally has his confidence up (Luol used to be good to great in qtrs 1-3, but absolutely disappear in Q4, well that's not hte case anymore and now everyone's buzzing him as an all star, he's always been a fringe all star, but he might and would definitely have been one this year had he not been hurt.  Plus you might recall Kobe wanting nothing to do wiht Chicago if he didn't play with Deng (and Kobe listed CHicago then as a preferred destination).  I think Kobe would approve this trade in the end, even if he likes Gasol,  Deng is 26, Gasol is 31....it's a smart decision for that purpose as well.  Bulls are in a win now, and I think the post trade makes us stronger than the pre trade.

The Celtics, I think it's silly for anyone to think them netting Boozer and Asik plus 2 first round picks (one with a very likely lottery pick and possibly unprotected) for just Ray Allen who they aren't likely to bring back anyway and Keyon Dooling is a bad trade, they get the biggest individual win on this just by being a partner in it.  They improve dramatically in the size dept with Asik a great defender who can give you big minutes, and KG/Boozer giving you a nice tandem of bigs, in the short term it's good, and long term it's better.  Plus they keep Pierce and remain competitive.  THey aren't out of it post this trade.

Chicago makes this trade to compete with Miami....that's it.  The Bulls are the deepest team in the league, and depleted that depth with some risk hopefully for the chance that Hamilton will get healthy, Allen will fit back into Thibs system flawlessly, and Gasol will add that slight extra "easy score" mentality that the Bulls lack.  

What do you think? 

Sorry, when I wrote on Watson, a backup PG backing up the MVP isn't too telling,

I meant to say having the luxury of C.J. Watson (who is very good, a 20.6 PER this year and who actaully was much better than his stats would indicate last year--he started off hte first 2 months abysmally learning that system late and failing, but by Jan/Feb, he got rolling, just in limited time (he was backing up the MVP in all), so his stats masked the player he was from that rough start.  He's been good and is now carrying that late season form into this year and the numbers are matching). 

C.J. Watson is a great to have, he is, but we haven't won anything yet, and I think we could make this strike and make us stronger for the H2H Heat Matchup only, and be just as strong overall.  If we had won, we'd keep our team together....

C.J.'s a luxury that a non winning team doesn't necessarily need, but likes to have.  I think our trade might make us more poised to beat the Heat, which at least puts us closer (granted we have to get there and have some risk concerns given Richard Hamilton has been out for all really but 9 games (he played injured in 2) and we have risks int hat Hamilton is what 34 and Allen is 37....

The Celtics got so much money coming off the books no way they want a huge junk of that going to Boozer plus Boozer and Garnett is redundant and can't play together. 

The Lakers can do better than that for Gasol IMO.

Hamilton can't play SF.


Honestly I think the Bulls maybe slightly improve the other 2 get worse. 

A few things:

How can't Hamilton play SF?  He's a mid range shooter, he runs all over the court, he's 6 ft 7?  Plus you add in the Thibs D system, the size and D skills in the post between Pau Gasol, Taj Gibson and Joakim Noah, and they can jam up the paint to soften that.  Teams don't need to have great both end players in every position, Hamilton is a better D player than given credit, plus I think having him and Allen run all over the court on the other end and create spacing more than makes up for the loss of Deng's pretty great defense and more limited (Though decent) offense.

Why can't boozer and Garnett play side by side?  Garnett's a defender first and second, and Boozer is an O player first and second.  Garnett's a 7 footer.  Don't forget too the C's add in Omer Asik for D purposes (and Asik is already better than any C they have today).  Boozer will be a prominent role in Boston and they still could use the leftover money of roughly $10M to make a major play for Eric Gordon or Roy Hibbert, though both of those 2 are restricted so it's tough.  Todya with their projected $33M for next year, they only have a few options to go after (Deron Williams and Dwight Howard obviously the prizes, but neither has said they want to play for Boston, and really given the age of Pierce, I don't think Howard would make that leap with other younger teams capable of his services).  They possibly could work out some sort of sign and trade with Rondo and Bass as the gets to either the Nets or the Magic for either of their superstars, but really 1) Is Deron Williams really any better than Rajon Rondo? I don't think so anymore at least, I think they're on the same stratosphere, so I don't see a need for Williams, and Howard will want a full $$ so he'd be a sign and trade player, and I don't see the C's trading Rondo and Bass and something for Howard and Howard wanting to go to Boston to play next to the aging leftovers highlighted by the pretty great Paul Pierce, when he has other options......THe other free agents they could get that are unrestricted are Steve Nash (they have Rondo, why?)?, Brook Lopez--him coming off of a major injury an dhim really not being that good to begin with anyway (no boards especially concerning) and him being restricted all poise major questions, he's not a safe pick fo rthem for the money they'd need to pry him away from Jersey, which will max him out because they need to keep somebody, Tim Duncan's not leaving SA, and Greg Oden is the big question mark.  If I was Boston post this trade I'd do the following with my $10M+

Make a big offer for Greg Oden, take the chance on him for a 3-4 year deal at a ridiculous $8-10M/year rate.  They might get it, very high risk high reward, run with Rondo-Pietrus-Pierce-Boozer-Oden.  Then trade Brandon Bass for Jason Thompson and change to the Sacto Kings, I think Thompson's a bit untapped potential suffering in Sacto, and Bass is a much worse version of Boozer that they wouldn't need.  I'd use the draft (likely low 20's pick to try to find some athleticism, and use the Bulls pick, and the option down the line for Charlotte can keep them poised.  It's time to break up the big 3....and they simply would be foolish both because he's still good and because he's the face of the team to trade Pierce.....


And the Lakers, i don't know why htis at all is bad for them in any capacity.  I would take Deng + Watson for Gasol definitely before Kevin Martin and Luis Scola (the NO offer on the table), youth alone and gaps for what they need, makes that a great deal, plus the keeping Kobe happy factor with coming into his own Luol Deng.....  They have 2 not great, but not bad PF's in McRoberts and Murphy, in Brown's system they aren't fully utilizing Gasol.  THey desperately need to have some youth to pair with Bynum.  Bynum's finally blossoming into a star that can mask the loss of Gasol anyway, and they fill in their 2 VERY LARGE gaps making them a borderline playoff team in the West (despite having a top 3-4 player in Kobe Bryant): Point Guard and Small Forward.  I think they're helped the most by this trade actually, and I think the Bulls have potential to get that small edge in the end, and short term Boston is helped in improved big man size (Asik and Boozer), and long term with picks and a plan.

Personally, I don't want the Bulls to make any deals. Basically any deal that would be brought up would include Deng or Gibson. Two players I wouldn't want to trade. In this scenario, I would pass because I do not like Gasol at all. Sure, I am not a fan of Boozer either, but I would not take a risk with Gasol.

See I am a fan of Boozer, and I'm not just saying that to support my trade.

I think CHicago is unfairly hard on him because of the injury to start and end last year.  But when he's used, he's solid and he's at least a top 11-15 PF. 

He can score with the best of them, give you easy scores too, he plays his job, never complains and builds team chemistry through that, and while he doesn't move his feet well defensively, he has quick hands that deflect a lot of passes, and he'll keep other players playing their role in Thibs system.  I think the Bulls are very happy with him actually, the media tries to focus on the pure stats (which show a 15 PPG, and 8.4 rebounds per game, but they forget his minutes have dropped and his efficiency per minute is up (FG up, etc).  He's just on a deeper team wiht a nice quadrant of bigs in Boozer-Noah-Gibson-Asik, and Thibs is saving Boozer for the playoffs a bit plus trying to reduce hte injury risk there.  He does a lot more than given credit for and is a clear upgrade in the rebounds category over Gasol, and a decent passer in his own right, with a better jump shot than Gasol. 

What he lacks that Gasol has is Gasol's got better D footwork, and Gasol goes into the post more to score (Boozer doesn't, probably because he's only 6 ft 9, to Gasol's legit 7 feet tall).  Gasol's a better passer (as he's probably the best passing big in the game) and Gasol has deeper range and championship experience.....

I have wanted Pau Gasol in Chicago since the Memphis days.

I know losing Deng and Watson is tough, and is a risk, and it's a pretty big risk for the deepest team in the league to do, but I think we still are slightly unfavorably to the Heat today, and I think O punch at the wings is one of our issues as well as easy inside buckets (Boozer scores with ease, but mostly in jump shots)....I think if we get a +1-3pt diff from this we'd be lucky, but in a 7 game series against the heat, that could do enough.  Plus I think Allen and Rip running at the deep wings will just open up things for Rose to do his thing.  Rip and Allen's stats will liekly drop, but Rose's effectiveness should improve, and Noah will do his thing more...

I really think the Lakers improve the most in the short term, going from likely barely a playoff team into being a deep playoff team, but I don't think this alone makes them title threats again (they aren't there now, this is a step, but they may have an outside chance at a title post this move and a better chance than they have today).  Plus the bigggest thing is they would have some youth and athleticism in the wing and PG that they desperately lack today.  There is a chance that Watson and Deng with Kobe and Bynum i s alegit title threat, better than Blake-Kobe-Gasol-Bynum that's for sure...  Gasol and Bynum aren't both producing together as well as they can do separately, and the Lakers have hte benefit of having a nice duo of PF's on the bench who aren't great for 30 MPG each, but both can give you good solid 24 MPG a piece, especially in a secondary post role to Bynum.

I like the trade for the Celtics if they don't get Boozer. I understand they might not be able to get anyone of his caliber in FA if guys like Howard and Williams won't sign with us/get traded first but I just don't see how it helps them. I'd rather see them try and resign Garnett and Allen for decent money and bring in two project players then get a 30 year old Boozer that hasn't lived up to his dollar amount yet. 

But at this point I'd love to give up Allen for Asik and two draft picks. 

If C.J. Watson couldn't start on the Warriors, he can't start anywhere else.  I actually think the backup PG spot is a weakness for the Bulls.  Against the elite teams, you're really losing a lot when you have either Watson or Lucas in the game while Rose is taking a breather.

He'd start on your Pacers.

And it's not like the Warriors tandem of Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis is anything to sneeze at.

I'm glad you see backup PG as a weakness in Chicago, it isn't.

We're losing a ton with Lucas III on the court, and we had that against you guys last time (CJ dislocated his arm and all), but CJ's performing at a fantastic clip right now and is under-utlized in Chicago.

Seriously, if you're a Bulls fan, why would you want to do that much tweaking to a team that already has the league's best record?

Both Collison and George Hill are better than Watson.  In fact, he's not even the NBA's best Watson (Earl Watson).  Heck, I might even take A.J. Price over him.

How can't Hamilton play SF?

Hes weak to guard most 3's and the East has a plethora of good/great ones. Deng is one of the best perimeter defenders in the game and can limit pretty much anybody he is guarding. Hamilton would get lit up by players like Lebron,melo and Pierce and may struggle with guys like Iggy and Granger as well. Literally every playoff team besides Orlando has a good/great 3 and I would much rather take my chances with Deng on them than Hamilon.


Why can't boozer and Garnett play side by side?

Their offensive games are extremely redunant in that both Garnett and Boozer seem to settle for jumpers most of the time. Plus Garnett while a great defender would not be able to do a decent job on players like Bynum,Howard,even Hibbert becuase of the size factor. I just don't think their going to want Boozer at that price when they can sign KG and Ray back for cheap and maybe make a pitch for Howard. Granted I don't think Howard is coming but with the way the C's are playing Ainge very well may still think their a title threat this season.

And the Lakers, i don't know why htis at all is bad for them in any capacity.

The Lakers still think they can get Dwill although it is not likely. They shoulden't trade Gasol until they see where Howard goes.Can't really comment on Watson as I haven't seen him a great deal but I think they can get and are expecting more for Gasol.

Seriously, why are people on this board so in love with PER rankings?  Indiviual stats don't tell the whole story, people.  See Bruce Bowen during the mid-2000's Spurs.  I bet his PER was among the lowest in the NBA.  In C.J. Watson's case, a lot of his numbers come against the opposing team's second or third unit anyway.  Oh, and Watson was in Golden State before Curry was and couldn't keep a starting job, so the team felt the need to draft Curry.  I also think Rose's presence also inflates Watson's numbers to a certain extent, as the two at times played in the same backcourt.  Even Lucas has had some big scoring nights this season.

The two biggest weaknesses for the Bulls (though small ones at that) include the need for backup while Rose sits, and the lack of a scoring option off the bench, a la Toni Kukoc.

Watson was a good scorer at the PG spot, a so-so distributor, and a poor defender when he was with GSW.  Not sure if that has changed much over the last two years with the Bulls.  If not, then is really no huge upgrade over Blake at PG for the Lakers although bringing in Luol Deng at the SF spot would help the Lakers a lot there.  Of course they are losing Gasol in the deal though so I'm not really sure this helps the Lakers.  It's harder to replace bigs than smalls.

DiJ,

You are totally wrong on CJ and wholly mistaken.

1) On Golden State, CJ was first of all 23-25, secondly he was backing up oh just Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis (two pretty solid to great PG's in their own right), and he started about 25% of his games there.....because of their injuries.  It's not like he was in Indy, or New York Knicks, or Orlando even, he was backing up a top 5 1-2 punch tandem of point guards....no fell swoop (they lead the league I believe last year in guard scoring, and ain't too shabby as of today).

2) THis year on the games Watson's played more than 20 minutes (7 of the 25 or whatever) his teams are 5-2, he's had the following numbers to boot:
    

avg minutes 30.24
Pts 14.6
Plus/Minus 12.1
Steals 1.6
Assists 6.15
Turns 2.57
Rebounds 3
FG % 44+

If you bump that closer to starting minutes (he normally plays about 19 MPG mostly backing up the MVP, much less frequently side by side, only as a last option if Brewer and Korver don't have it going together in tandem, and I think really he mostly did that just when Deng who plays almost 40MPG was out for those 4-5 games there).

But if you bump to 34 minutes, his numbers look like
Pts 16.4
Steals 1.8
Assists 6.91
Turns 2.89
Rebounds3.4
FG 44%, and I didn't adj Plus Minus.



CJ is very very solid. 

Let's compare that to your Darren Collison, who ha avg's 34 MPG--I looked it up after my assumption above
Darren Collison 34mpg
Pts 11.7
Steals 0.9 (steals are overrated typically, but Watson plays good positional defense on top of haivng quick hands)
Assists 5.5
Turns 2.0
Rebounds 3.5
FG% 43.6%

I'd take CJ there, better scoring by quite a bit (CJ is more shoot first), but he also gives you more steals and more assists by almost 1.5 a game....

Collison's solid too, I'm just saying you are dramatically underrating CJ Watson, and especially to base that off of him not getting a start over Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry is ridiculous.  Mark Jackson is the last Pacer PG that might have pushed either of those two to the bench, certainly not Jamal Tinsley, T.J. Ford, Darren Collison, George Hill, etc. 

This is a great trade for the Lakers, it's a very risky trade for the deep best record in the league Bulls team, and it's a net wash this year for the C's and a nice coup for later.

Zags, he was a poor defender when he started in CHi too, but THibs has taught him, and he's learned a ton and is coming into his own.  He was still a young player playing in a very O focused system in Golden State, and that caused him a ton of problems when he first came to Chicago, but since he's been here after the initial learning the system upheavel, he's been solid.

Folks will catch on soon, esp if Rose go's down with these back concerns.

The thing is for us, is the Bulls are predicated on Rose, so if Rose goes down, CJ can keep us afloat, but the Bulls won't win anything regardless of what other pieces we have or bring in without Derrick Rose, so that's why I'm less concerned about having a guy keep us afloat if this back thing worsens with Rose, and I'm more concerned about winning when fully geared, which I think Ray Allen and Pau Gasol keep us geared to do slightly and much more riskier than today.....I think it's that slight edge against Miami that we don't have.

having pietrus daniels and moore as the shooting guards is not a very good rotation, Ray Allen is streaky as heck but he's still more reliable then daniels

btw daniels almost exclusivly plays SF and backs up pierce

pluss jujaun johnson looks like he's got some special talent and personally id rather develop him than use up a ton of cap room to get boozer

the only thing i like about this deal is getting the top 20 draft pick and getting rid of dooling

but that being said the Celtics have 2 first round draft picks in this upcoming draft the extra coming from the Clippers (the main reason im pissed about the paul trade )

thus i must say the celtics actually have a lot of positives moving forward and getting boozer wouldnt really vault them into elite status

pluss if Fab Melo falls in the draft to around the 20 spot that would be a great adition to the center spot


so in summary NO id rather not Ainge do this deal

TFITZ
Why can't boozer and Garnett play side by side?

Their offensive games are extremely redunant in that both Garnett and Boozer seem to settle for jumpers most of the time. Plus Garnett while a great defender would not be able to do a decent job on players like Bynum,Howard,even Hibbert becuase of the size factor. I just don't think their going to want Boozer at that price when they can sign KG and Ray back for cheap and maybe make a pitch for Howard. Granted I don't think Howard is coming but with the way the C's are playing Ainge very well may still think their a title threat this season.


I know that Garnett and Boozer's O game is similar, jump shooting mostly (Boozer actually has some real post and back to the basket game, he just oddly doesn't go to it as much as he could), he's also a helluva pick and roll player, which the Bulls run less of htan he did in Utah.  But that's not my point.  THe big reason why Boozer and KG can work is based entirely on the fact that Boston's PG: Rajon Rondo is just about as pass-first as you get in this league.  Rondo is a better passer than Derrick Rose (Rose is still underrated in passing, but he's not Rondo).  Having them around the post and being so good in the post is solid cuz he can find them better in the gaps, and you'd certainly greatly improve over the Jermaine O'Neal, Greg Steisma, etc crap  you have today.

Defensively, I know KG isn't as good against the real bigs like Bynum, Howard and when he's focused Roy Hibbert, but 3 things:
1) Who is good defensively on Dwight Howard save maybe for Jason Collins?  Nobody.
2) KG and Boozer in the post is certainly better than O'Neal today.  Jermaine O'Neal is ridiculously terrible.
3) You forgot that Omer Asik is a solid defender and actually has defensively played the bigs as well if not better in spots than all D 2nd team Joakim Noah.  Plus you guys get some picks dodwn the line....

Thinking your going to keep Ray Allen again for a team tha tdesperately needs to get young fast, is not what will keep you guys in the hunt.  Ainge wants to stay in the hunt, and he has a chance to do that with this as his first move.

Trying to save everyting for Deron Williams is crazy since you have Rajon Rondo (and I seriously would take Rondo over DWill).  But if you wanted to sign DWill, he'd prefer the S&T, of which Rondo can still be a piece.....

Trying to save $$ for Howard is crazy because Dwight Howard hasn't shown any interest in the Celtics, and he certainly will have better offers from other teams that feature young guys that he can mature with (the leftover C's regardless are too old).

You guys as I said above can't likely afford those 2, the big 2 unrestricted guys, and I doubt you'll steal the 3 big restricted guys (Eric Gordon), Roy Hibbert, or Brook Lopez (you may be able to get Lopez of the 3, but you'd have to dramatically overpay for him especially in light of the injuries, and run the risk of him being an Elton Brand for your team, which is silly (and he never was as good as Elton Brand once was and doesn't rebound at all)....

Boozer's the best rebounder you guys have by some margin, and that helps you guys out, plus nabbing another 7 footer who is a D specialist, improving his O game, and is only being traded in my scenario because the Bulls aren't likely to keep him with this alleged Euro Stud Mirotic heading here in th enext year or two....

Id rather keep Gasol. No need to make a move laterally or worse. Gasol is slumping but hes still one of the best big men in the league. Can you say the same about Luol Deng? Yes hes a good player but he can't make a difference like Pau can. And the other guy you mentioned sucks just like Steve Blake. We don't need 4 PG's on our roster that suck.

On Golden State, CJ was first of all 23-25, secondly he was backing up oh just Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis (two pretty solid to great PG's in their own right), and he started about 25% of his games there.....because of their injuries.  It's not like he was in Indy, or New York Knicks, or Orlando even, he was backing up a top 5 1-2 punch tandem of point guards

Sadly for Warriors fans like myself he was backing up two shooting guards (talented albeit) in point guard bodies.  Watson at the time was also sort of a SG in a point guard body as well.  Sadly the one true point guard with starter capabilities the Warriors have had in the last few years was Jeremy Lin....and of course we all know where he is playing now.....Aye caramba!!!