Rams Offseason thread

I'm just hoping that we really nail this draft..... WHATEVER direction they decide to go in. I like the idea of Warmack at 16 but I'm all in for whatever it is that Fisher and the front office decides to do. I just know that it's going to have to be spot on because as of right now we only have 1.8M in cap space. That eliminates being a player in the free agency period and hopes that we could land Jarius Byrd. In fact I've heard that Wayne Hunter and Quintin Mikell could be cap casualties but that'll only release enough space to allow us to re-sign Amendola and Fletcher.

We need another playmaker alot more than a safety IN THE 1ST ROUND.



Two words Junkie...CRAIG DAHL! Nuff said, if the safeties are there, we MUST MUST MUST go that way. There are plenty of WR's available in rounds 2-4 that will be as big or bigger of an impact as Patterson IMO

There are plenty of WR's available in rounds 2-4 that will be as big or bigger of an impact as Patterson IMO

Like who?  lol  Besides Da'Rick Rodgers and he's another Janoris so you hope his head stays on striaght.






1 word ksu:   Offense!



Our defense is pretty good and kept us in many games, while our offense struggled.  If you have a pocket QB, you need an O-line and playmakers to score points.        I think we can upgrade at safety by not drafting one in the first.  Now if Allen or Patterson are gone by #22, then by all means you have to get the BPA at a position of need in the 1st round.

Our biggest need is Offense.  period.            

SportsJunkie, how about the kid Ertz from Stanford if he's there at 22? I think he could be a Jason Witten type TE. We do need playmakers but does that limit us to it being a receiver? Or better yet a dream scenario where we could trade back a few spots..... still get Ertz...... pick up an additional 2nd maybe 3rd..... grab Fluker with 48 and go S/WR with the next two selections(Da'Rick Rogers could be that receiver). Also hoping we can get Chance Warmack at 16. In the case that Chance is gone I'd trade back a few spots.... add a pick and draft Jonathan Cooper or Barrett Jones.

Doubt we use a high pick on a TE, especially because it seemed Kendricks improved during the season.  I could see us getting a Jordan Reed in the 3rd and that would be sweet.

We need the meat and potatoes on our offense.   We need some beef on the line and another playmaker on offense.  This would help us tremendously. 

Trades are so hard to predict. 

Entirely TOO hard to predict. I wasn't suggesting that we'd use Kendrick less though, I actually think he's turning the corner and should have a really good year 2013. I was implying that we could have them both playing together. Jordan Reed plays for Florida right? Not a bad choice of TE, especially in the 3rd. I'd rather have Da'Rick Rogers if I had to choose between the two though. He just reminds me of Julio (just a bit) and I'm still salt that we missed out on him two drafts ago. Smh. How tall is Reed?

There are plenty of WR's available in rounds 2-4 that will be as big or bigger of an impact as Patterson IMO
 

Like who?  lol  Besides Da'Rick Rodgers and he's another Janoris so you hope his head stays on striaght.


Justin Hunter, Robert Woods, Deandre Hopkins, Terrance Williams, Rogers, Quinton Patton and Cobi Hamilton all are projected in round 2 or 3.

I am going to give you a name to watch. Aron Mellette from Elon. He is 6'3, 218 pounds and runs 4.4. He is projected as a 4-5th round guy. It is pretty obvious the Rams whiffed on the 2nd rounder last year with Quick and hit a HR with the 4th rounder in Givens, I am willing to bet they see that and realize that.


Our biggest need is Offense.  period.    



no, our biggest need is offensive line...period. Our WR becomes bunches better if Bradford gets 5-6 to make progressions as opposed to 2-3. You know it and I know it. Where the Rams will get another playmaker from the draft is at RB where they will draft someone for sj39 to mentor.   

Jordan Reed plays for Florida right? Not a bad choice of TE, especially in the 3rd. I'd rather have Da'Rick Rogers if I had to choose between the two though. He just reminds me of Julio (just a bit) and I'm still salt that we missed out on him two drafts ago. Smh. How tall is Reed?

Reed is 6'3 240 from Florida and Rogers won't be around in the 3rd, unless his combine goes bad which i highly doubt.     

Justin Hunter, Robert Woods, Deandre Hopkins, Terrance Williams, Rogers, Quinton Patton and Cobi Hamilton all are projected in round 2 or 3.

hunter and woods are ok - not sure if they will be big time NFL WR's and doubtful they will be there with our 2nd round pick.  Hopkins might be good, but he won't be there either.  No thanks on Cobi, Williams, Patton.

There will be a run of WR's picked in the 2nd - 3rd rounds.   

no, our biggest need is offensive line...period


Our biggest need is Offense.  period.  ->  offense...  lol  that's what i said

I doubt he'll be there in the 3rd too. I would just choose him over Reed if both were available at that time. I wouldn't mind having Reed though. I just like the idea of a tall rangy TE with big play capabilities. I have a feeling that Rogers will perform and we'll miss out on him unless we can maneuver in the 1st nd pick up an additional 2nd rd pick anyway. I'm starting to be unsure if Warmack will even be around come 16.

2 WRs to keep an eye on at the combine:


Markus Wheaton, BEAVERS


Marquess Wilson, Wash St.


I think these guys could be steals, but Wheaton is starting to show up on alot of people's radar.        


Why can't Sammy Wadkins be in this draft!!  

<blockquote class="QuoteMessage">Aron Mellette from Elon. He is 6'3, 218 pounds and runs 4.4.</blockquote>

<br /><br /><br />Good find.  Don't know about that 40..  We will find out. 

my mistake on Mellette... 4.53 is his last recorded 40 time. Still very good for a taller WR, but not quite the 4.4 I thought I read.


I am still of the opinion that if Warmack is there at 16 we HAVE to have him. If he is gone, I would look at the safeties there and then maybe look at Eddie Lacy at #22. Then go Fluker in round 2, Kyle Long in round 3, OLB in round 4, Mellette in round 5 and then BPA in the last 2 rounds.


Obviously if we get Warmack and Fluker then the safety is drafted at #22 and we look at Bell or Ball in round 3.  

Hey KSUDodgers: Your scenarios are fairly close to being right on especially if Warmack is gone by 16. We are going after Warmack if he is there and we may even trade up a bit to get him. But if they decide against this and Warmack is gone at 16, we then almost assuredly will select a safety at one of our first rounders with Lacy at the other one.

Then we will see Fluker in the second and Kyle Long just may end up wearing horns after all in the third or fourth because Fisher is big on loyality and Kyle Long would be a very good addition to our O-line especially with Boudreau. I am hoping it will be Warmack at 16, one of the safeties at 22, and Fluker in the second. If Warmack is gone, I see your scenarios unfolding. Retroram. 

It's a slow friday at work....  so here it is.

Couple players to keep an eye on:


DJ Swearinger, 5'11 210 FS/SS South Carolina: Played mostly FS and some CB in college.   Good against the run and good cover skills, good speed.  He will be a combo Safety in the NFL.  Currently projected 3-4 round, but might move up.


Baccari Rambo, 6' 210 FS/SS Georgia:  You all know I like this guy.  Played on a solid defense at Georgia.  He's another FS that might move to SS.


Shamarko Thomas, 5'9 217 SS Syracuse:   This guy runs a 4.39, plays the game with reckless abandonment and loves to throw his body around. Very aggressive and a tough run defender, but needs more discipline with his coverage responsibilities.  Projected 5th rounder.  I would love to turn this guy into a RB!



Larry Warford, 6'3 340 OG Kentucky:    Projected 2-3 rounder.  If we do miss out on Warmack, this guy could be a steal in the 2-3 round.  This guy is stronger and has good balance, but needs to work on mobility and get quicker.


Kerrwyn Williams, 5'8 195 RB Utah St:  projected late rounds.  Runs a 4.44 and I'm sorry but I think the RB under 5'10 in the NFL with speed is a huge weapon.  Sproles defined this role.   


DJ Harper, 5'8 205 RB Boise St:  Runs a 4.48.  Strong, with good speed.  Again I love the smaller RB.  Projected late rounder.


Chris Harper, 6'1 225 WR KSU:  Runs a 4.46.   Just looks like a heck of an athlete.  Projected 4th rounder.


 Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Terrance Williams, Da'Rick Rogers, Cordarrelle Patterson all are right there and there positions will move based on combine scores.  I think they are all very similiar,but I would prefer Patterson, Rogers, or Allen - based on his injury status. 

I'm a fan of taking Jordan Reed in the 3rd or 4th round if he's the best avail player.
if we were to look for an underrated TE with size, I saw Joseph Fauria play a couple games. He's the nephew of Christian Fauria.
Joseph is 6'7" 260. UCLA played alot of spread leaving him split out quite often. He had nearly 60 catches and led the nation in TD's caught by TE's with 11 this last year. He's currently projected in different mocks to go anywhere from the 5th to 7th round.
If Reed's gone, then Fauria may be a diamond in the rough with one of our late round picks.

I like both of those guys and yeah J Fauria will be a late rounder, but Jordan Reed is the 3rd TE on the board right now and I'm thinking he will probably be a late 2nd to mid 3rd rounder.  But who knows?  If he has a good combine and with demand for TE's going up, he may move into the early 2nd?

Hey Sportsjunkie: I have also seen some articles over at WalterFootball indicating that if we miss on Warmack and get Fluker, that Larry Warford is on our draft board. I like the guy as well. If Warmack is missing, we will end up with one of the safeties, probably Vaccaro, and one of the WRs with Fluker in the second. Kyle Long could then be had later on like fourth or fifth round and our O-line would be vastly improved.

Baccari Rambo is an intriguing prospect and if we come out of the draft with Vaccaro and Rambo, that is one hell of a D-backfield and I would be very pleased because that means we would not have to suffer another season with C. Dahl mucking things up. Your list of later round picks make a lot of sense for us on a number of levels. Good Friday to you! Retroram.

retro -  I just don't see the big need for a safety with one of our 1st rounders.  We have got to hit on these and we need help on offense alot more than defense.  Our defense was solid alot of this year.  If we take a safety and pass on a Patterson or Allen, where are we going to find big playmakers?  We have Givens, but Pettis and Quick seem athletic and pretty good - do they possess everything it takes to be a #1 WR?  I think we need to evaluate further after the combine and hopefully get Patterson or Allen - if he's healthy.

I hear you on the need to improve our offense and that means the O-line and a WR. I think it will all depend on what happens with Warmack. If he is gone by 16 (barring a trade up to get him earlier) then we will probably take Fisher along with Patterson or Allen in the first with Fluker in the second and Rambo later on. 

We need a change at Safety to dispose of C. Dahl and Mikell may be a cap casualty. Stewart is pretty much done so we are getting a little thin and that is why we will probably take one of the big three in the first even though some pundits indicate that one or more may be available in the second which would disrupt us getting Fluker unless we trade one of our first rounders for more seconds.

Like I stated, if we come out of this draft with Warmack, Fluker, a WR AND Vicarro and Rambo, that would be a one hell of a draft. But again, it all depends on how the draft goes as you well know. retroram.

Yeah it seems we will need some help at both safeties.  I just think those are positions you fill in with good athletes and your defense will still be good.  Put good safeties back there with a bigger SLB and the defense could be great.

But I would rather have a good defense and a good offense, than a great defense and another season with a below average offense.




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