Romo's Contract - what say ye...

Yes, there was a reply to just let his contract expire...that is rediculous!

But like Bennett....many "FANS" did not like the guy so they were for some reason HAPPY when he left.

If my memory serves me correctly Choice couldn't get on the field much because he didn't practice well and Jason Garrett wasn't his biggest fan.  He'll be 29 years old this fall and I don't really see any scenario in which he would be back on this team.  I'd rather spend money on someone younger who can hold onto a football.

I still don't get why people think Martellus Bennett was good this year.  If you take away the first three games of the season, he was on the same level as someone like Brandon Pettigrew.  Not sure what others saw in him, but I watched him continue his trend if dropping passes on a weekly basis this season and laughed every time it happened.  I really don't feel bad about losing a guy who had a whopping 2 TDs and 440 yards in his last 13 games of the year.  Clearly defenses caught onto him quick and he wasn't able to adjust his play.  A TE with poor hands who can't adjust to defenses is not something any team should lose much sleep over.

Ahmad Bradshaw gets injured on a yearly basis and also has had major fumbling issues.  There are better options out there for us and who knows what you can find in the later rounds of the draft.

Axe wrote:

Don't doubt it. But that wasn't the question asked. You wanted to know what WE thought about Romo's contract situation, and what it sounds like is you didn't like our answer. If you get that upset over contrary answers, then don't ask questions.


Axe ur exactly right.   I didn't.  But im not "REALLY" upset....I just find myself a bit taken aback by the fact  that is seems many here dont understand just how good Romo is.


I think the evidence of what he should get based on history and tradition as they relate to performance is clear.  I tried to explain this in my posts, but I dont think I really go thru.

  The article attached I think shows this best:

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]What Cowboy fans would be advocating in getting rid of Romo would be to BLOW A HOLE in our TEAM with about 6 million hitting the cap and NO QB for a guy who had proven by the numbers his value.

Again, he only needs a better supporting cast.


So YES....after I asked I did issue an edict. 

ROMO STAYS.....WE PAY HIM.


And the CHARTED Numbers come out just about where I've said.  They used Romo's .14 EPA in 2012, but I'm sure Romo's Agent will argue his avg performance ( with a better supporting cast ) was a full .05 higher just a year earlier at .19.     I think this will easily be good for the additional 1.1 million annually I suggested vs the 13.3 a .14 would generate based on tradition.       

A .21 would generate a 16 million dollar Contract or 5 years 80 million dollars......based on that formula.

I think the 5 year 72.5  considering the 17 million in cap hit Romo has over the head of the team now gives him leverage.            
    

   

We're stuck with Romo for 1 more year,we know that...but doesn't mean we have to play him....anybody else would have been benched after the 5 int. Game....dudes had 6 years to get us to Super Bowl...ain't happening....quit making excuses for I.e. Oline lack of running game....don't resign him Jerry time to move on!!

What Cowboy fans would be advocating in getting rid of Romo would be to BLOW A HOLE in our TEAM with about 6 million hitting the cap and NO QB for a guy who had proven by the numbers his value.

As far as I can tell nobody is arguing that Romo should be cut immediately, we are saying don't extend Romo (at least not yet) and if no playoff success has taken place allow his contract to expire and let him move on to another team. 


We are saying a young QB should be drafted this year to be groomed as Romo's replacement.


Neither of these positions are unreasonable.

BTW what would that chart say about Romo's performance if we just went by playoff games and win-and-you're-in games?

Revan Asks:

What is his QB rating in playoff games and "win and you are in" games?  His play in big games shows that he's a choker, and no stats that you post are going to change this fact. 


Well Last year Revan, Against Washington last year it was 55.9....for the season it was 95.6.    I think everyone acknowledges Romo had a horrible game against Washington this year.

In 2011 Against the Giants last year it was 106.0 in a 14 - 31 game.  29 for 37  78.4 Competion Percentage 2 TD's and 1 int. 
For those who 'BLAME' the QB regardless, have a field day with that.     

Only 6 games in 10.  Guess its his fault for getting hurt too.

In 2009, he won the Division Title and beat the Eagles in the 1st Playoff game. Romo had a 102.0 rating.  We lost to Minnesota and Favre. Romo?

In 2008, Romo Missed 3 games, we missed the Playoffs.   Eagles beat us 44-7.  Romo's fault?
 
In 2007, Gave us a 13 and 3 season and top seed in the NFC.  We lost to Minnesota.  Romo was  1st team NFC Pro Bowl.   
         
In 2006, I guess some of you blame Romo for Bill Parcells horrible Coaching Job.  1 pass thrown to T.O. playing Pete Hunter, the couch bound Insurance Salesman who was cut by the Cowboys for being TORCHED daily in practice by T.O.      


its simply not as cut and dry as you try to make it Revan.    Like the many times I've admonished TruBlueRomoHater......Don't let reality get in he way on your trip to bury Romo.

Again.....FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT.     

 

DaMilkman wrote:

We're stuck with Romo for 1 more year,we know that...but doesn't mean we have to play him....anybody else would have been benched after the 5 int. Game....dudes had 6 years to get us to Super Bowl...ain't happening....quit making excuses for I.e. Oline lack of running game....don't resign him Jerry time to move on!!


DaMilk..no, that's exactly what it means.  WE DO   IN FACT have to pay him.  We cannot afford Romo on the books at 17 million this year. Sorry.

And to get Romo to do another deal...you MUST PAY HIM.     

This is NOT a onesided affair buddy.   Why should Romo do ANYTHING other than Collect his 17 million and tell the team SCREW YOU...when if we "DONT" pay him, we cough up just under 6 million off the Cap only Orton to helm the team.

NO THANKS.  

To allow him to stay and not pay him would mean we would have to CUT 3 or 4 other players to fit everyone.  ( Can't do it ), and he moves on to get a contract next year.

Makes no sense, and is NOT happening.  NO WAY   NO HOW.      

 

Excuse me....in 09 NO NO NO  not Minnesota....Patrick Crayton drops the 1st down ball to seal the game.  And Garrett 1st rears his head as a HORRIBLE offensive coordinator when it comes to Situational Football.

We "RUN" all over the Giants in the 1st half, instead of tiring them out as we did in the 1st 2 games by passing earily.  They could not get to Romo....our line was strong.  By half 2, the Giants were Fresh and turned up the heat. 

Roy Williams and Reeves give up 2 Long TD's...Giants go on to win the Super Bowl. 

I don`t get it.Some Cowboy fans think that the Cowboys should get rid of Romo.Then those same fans think the Cowboys have a weak OL.Fans want Romo to take the Cowboys to the Super Bowl ,but how can he without an OL.Does`nt this statement condradict itself.You would thiink that the QB in most cases is as good as his OL allows him to be. 

In 2011 Against the Giants last year it was 106.0 in a 14 - 31 game.  29 for 37  78.4 Competion Percentage 2 TD's and 1 int. 
For those who 'BLAME' the QB regardless, have a field day with that.

But only 14 points, which is normally not enough to get it done.  31 points on defense, though, isn't going to get it done either.


We lost to Minnesota and Favre. Romo?

Yes, he was a contributing factor.


Eagles beat us 44-7.  Romo's fault?


7 points?  Yep, he was a contributing factor.


In 2007, Gave us a 13 and 3 season and top seed in the NFC.  We lost to Minnesota.  Romo was  1st team NFC Pro Bowl.  
  

We lost to the Giants, and yes Crayton's drop hurt, but Romo didn't make any plays late in the game.


In 2006, I guess some of you blame Romo for Bill Parcells horrible Coaching Job.


Romo dropped the ball, literally.



Again.....FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT.


Yes it is, football is a team sport, but that doesn't mean I can't judge Romo on his contributions to our lack of playoff success. 


Like I've said over and over, the arguments you are making are the exact same arguments I've made when trying to defend Romo.  Guys like Axe and Cowboysforever have been right there with me making these very same arguments.  We have simply seen too much failure with Romo to continue making these same arguments.

Why should Romo do ANYTHING other than Collect his 17 million and tell the team SCREW YOU...when if we "DONT" pay him, we cough up just under 6 million off the Cap only Orton to helm the team.

Romo is not worth 17 million, there is no way I would make that deal.

Revan....news flash.  Because you as a fan think the guy you have defended is now 'no longer the guy' does not make that the end.   All your previous arguments were correct, and now you are wrong.   The Talent around Romo went down...not UP.  The Coaching has been sub Par.  The Line was Bad...as another fan said above.  

The LOGIC of your change in heart is simply not there.  Its Emotion.


Besides...I have spoken.






PS:  you posting Romo is not worth 17 million, and saying 'you would not do the deal' lets me know you really dont pay attention to what has been posted.   Read it again.  See what the Reality of why the 17 million was posted on.             

Sonny, I just don't understand these guys! Most are saying that Romo must go because he cannot win in the playoffs or "must-win" games. So what they are saying is that QB's that won the Superbowl are better than QB's that didn't because they overcame their teams' deficiencies.


By that logic, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and Jim McMahon were all better QB's than Dan Marino! Ridiculous!!!


I have said this a thousand times...QB is a strength of this team, not a weakness!   These guys are asking Romo to be a top 5 QB EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!! Is there anyone in the NFL that can play 19 games in a season and not have a bad game or two? No way!!!


I just get tired of all of the guys playing Fantasy Football or Madden Football...just trade Romo for a 1st and draft the next RGIII or look what SF did in drafting Kaepernick when they don't pay attention to all of the teams that miss on guys like Jamarcus Russell, Blaine Gabbert, Tim Tebow, Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Tim Couch, Quincy Carter, etc, etc. The list goes on and on! Stop the MADNESS!!!!

  

Sonny, I just don't understand these guys! Most are saying that Romo must go because he cannot win in the playoffs or "must-win" games. So what they are saying is that QB's that won the Superbowl are better than QB's that didn't because they overcame their teams' deficiencies.


By that logic, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and Jim McMahon were all better QB's than Dan Marino! Ridiculous!!!

Nobody is saying this.  Some of us would just like to simply let Romo play out his contract and move forward at the QB position.  Myself and others feel we can only get so far with Romo and he will never overcome his inconsistency issues.  Nobody is asking Romo to be perfect every game and we all realize that QB's have poor games throughout the course of the season.

That said, Romo has had countless opportunities in critical games where he has failed to play to the best of his ability.  In the playoffs, you need to win three (sometimes four) critical games in a row in order to win a Super Bowl.  The odds of Romo putting together three solid games in a row in critical situations seems as likely as me winning the lottery at this point.

Will Tony Romo make our team competitive and give us a chance to at least make the playoffs going into the final week of the season? Absolutely.  Will we ever be a significant threat to make a run in the playoffs with him?  My answer is no and because of that, I'd rather move on and try something different.  He seems like a great person and he has the ability to play like a top 5 QB at times, but it's his inconsistency big situations that is ultimately his tragic flaw.  I'll continue to root for the team regardless of who our QB is, but at this point I think moving in a different direction would be benifical going forward.

Will Tony Romo make our team competitive and give us a chance to at least make the playoffs going into the final week of the season? Absolutely.  Will we ever be a significant threat to make a run in the playoffs with him?  My answer is no and because of that, I'd rather move on and try something different.  He seems like a great person and he has the ability to play like a top 5 QB at times, but it's his inconsistency big situations that is ultimately his tragic flaw.  I'll continue to root for the team regardless of who our QB is, but at this point I think moving in a different direction would be benifical going forward

I'm sure there were many many many Broncos fans who felt the same way about John Elway...  Bottom line, there is NEVER a legitimate argument to get rid of a Top 10 QB in this league, when they are so damned hard to come by!  CowboysForever, I get the point you're TRYING to make, but that's a pretty illogical viewpoint in this league.  Teams miss on QB talent far more times than they succeed.  Romo withouth question has the talent as a QB, and is competitive enough to get it right if or when he's ever surrounded by the right pieces.  Getting rid of him over a few select frustrating moments is flat out ridiculous!

A few frustrating moments?  It's been seven seasons of frustrating moments which include medicore to poor performances against each of our three division rivals in a win and make the playoffs game in the final week of the season.  We've had the same situation in week 17 three different times and we've failed three each times.  I cannot say that Tony Romo played well in any of those losses.

If he has continued to put up poor efforts in win or go home games against our division rivals, how could he have what it takes to win a Super Bowl and make a run?  Those types of games where he hasn't played well are the same type of environment you will come across in each round of the playoffs.

I think Tony is a good person and he has the potential to play like a great quaterback at times.  Unfortunately I don't believe he posesses the ability to put together 3 to 4 straight good performances in the playoffs to win a Super Bowl.  Nothing would make me happier than for me to be proven wrong this year, but there's no indication that things are going to change.  I would rather take a chance by moving the team in a different direction at the QB position than continue to be competitive each year but unable to be considered a legitimate contender.  We will be competitive as long as Romo stays here, but I have no confidence in him being able to put it together for a series of playoff games.

A few frustrating moments?  It's been seven seasons of frustrating moments which include medicore to poor performances against each of our three division rivals in a win and make the playoffs game in the final week of the season.  We've had the same situation in week 17 three different times and we've failed three each times.  I cannot say that Tony Romo played well in any of those losses.

Yes, a few frustrating moments!!!  When you look at his total body of work, his great moments FAR OUTWEIGH his bad moments!  Unfortunately he plays for the most popular team IN SPORTS, and therefore his bad moments are magnified beyond reason!  His mistakes are no more obvious than Big Ben (22 QB rating in the SB), P. Manning (pick six in SB), Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers etc...  Those guys were fortunate enough to ride the wave while having legitimate teams around them that could compensate and overcome their mistakes throughout the season and the playoffs, and win a Super Bowl!

Brees threw 5 ints against the Falcons this year...  Ryan threw 5 against the freaking Cardinals this year...  They talked about it THAT DAY and it was never brought up again...  They're STILL talking about Romo's 5 int game against Buffalo... in 2006,,,, and HE WON!!!

We've had TWO legitimate shots at a SB run since Romo's been the starter.  In 07 (his first full year) I stand behind you 100% in that he underperformed.  Yes there are other factors that led to that loss vs the Giants, but I won't argue Romo taking the blame for that!  However, anybody who blames that TEAM IMPLOSION vs the Vikings on Romo, is just plain stupid!  There's not a QB in HISTORY who could've survived that massacre our offensive line suffered that day! 

Those are the TWO seasons worth mentionining!  The other 5 seasons he's been at the helm, he's been surrounded by a mediocre supporting cast...  A couple of GREAT players and a bunch of average garbage!  Blame Romo all you want, but that's media driven fools gold your buying into!

CarolinaBBQ  ur exactly Right.

As I've said, these arguments are silly to me.


YOU said it best......QB is a STRENGTH of our team....NOT! a weakness.  When you go CHANGING STRENGTHS to get "UNKNOWNS", while limiting your opportunities to then "FIX" your "WEAKNESSES" you are setting your team up for the cellar.     

The Talent around Romo went down

I agree completely.


you posting Romo is not worth 17 million, and saying 'you would not do the deal' lets me know you really dont pay attention to what has been posted. 


No, it lets you know that Romo is not worth 17 million....I read your arguments, thought about them, and decided I would rather wait and see how this plays out before a decision is made about an extension.