Randy Moss: First ballot HoFer?

Randy Moss will make the HoF one day. His numbers speak for themselves. But so do his diva antics. So, will Randy Moss be a first ballot HoFer?

I don't believe he gets in on his first ballot. I think being a shameless, self promoting diva will hurt him.

I think being a shameless, self promoting diva will hurt him.

I hope it does.

He doesn't deserve to go 1st ballot imo. Carter waited 5years, Brown still isn't in. And there are plenty others at that position to throw into the mix. His TD numbers will get him in before some others though.

Being a diva has nothing to do with getting into the Hall of Fame.  His numbers say 1st ballot, probably unanimous.

Randy Moss was the catalyst for the NFLs highest scoring offense in history. Randy Moss was then the catalyst for the offense that broke the above mentioned offense's record He own the single season receiving TD record, NFL rookie records, and more. He'll end his career #2 or #3 in receiving yards and receiving TDs. There's no reason he shouldn't be first ballot. Just because voters were flat out stupid and denied Cris Carter for years doesn't mean the same should happen to anyone else. The hall of fame is about performance on the football field, his diva attitude should NOT hold him back from being first ballot

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of other WR's waiting to get in, so those that retired ahead of him and still waiting might get in first.

It's not his diva personality. For all those records and total numbers he had, he had 3 AWFUL years in what should've been his prime years. He ran basically one route. He disappeared in the playoffs for the majority of his career because better defenses could neutralize his 1 trick pony act.

He has ZERO business even being mentioned as a 1st ballot HOFer. He's one of the biggest wastes of talent in NFL history IMO.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't even put him in the HOF. He could've owned every single record, but he simply chose not to do so. That's not a HOFer. That's a guy who coasted by on his natural talent alone, but never wanted to put the effort into his craft. Winning was secondary to him, and it showed.

I don't believe he gets in on his first ballot. I think being a shameless, self promoting diva will hurt him.

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I would have to agree.  While he's had no major infractions with the law, he has managed to piss off to many influencial football people.

Moss gets in. Probably second or third ballot. Brown should be in by then.

I think the off the field stuff really only matters to the guys who determine the baseball HOF, not to important for other sports. He is top five in yards and TDs, holds multiple records, and remained effective for a good amount of time. Definitely should be in the discussion for top 2-3 (Doesn't touch Rice really) if you go by what he did on the field. He should be first ballot.

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lso keep in mind that there are plenty of other WR's waiting to get in, so those that retired ahead of him and still waiting might get in first.

Um...no.  When someone gets voted in has nothing to do with waiting in line.  What a stupid statement.    

Here's Moss' career averages in 16 years:

61 receptions, 956 receiving yards, 10 TDs

Yippie!!! What an amazing player!

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of other WR's waiting to get in, so those that retired ahead of him and still waiting might get in first.

Great..now you believe that when you retire and then in 5 years you go down to the Hall and stand in line to get inducted behind those that have been on the list longer.

doesn't work like that.

The only other receivers who stand a chance or are close to Moss are Tim Brown and Andre Reed...both elligible

and then Hines Ward, Terrell Owens and Marvin Harrison....all not elligible. 

If Moss retires today he gets in on the Ray Lewis/Tony Gonzales ticket on the first ballot.  

Remember its the hall of fame, not the hall of stats. Randy Moss, for a time, was the most prolific and most famous WR in the league. The fact that he had some bad seasons that reduce his overall stats is pretty irrelevant in that context. 

He will get in, and should be a first ballot guy. If Warren Sapp is 1st ballot, so is Randy.  

He will get in, and should be a first ballot guy. If Warren Sapp is 1st ballot, so is Randy. 

Except Sapp didn't have the motivation issues that Moss had. Did Sapp ever quit on his teammates or take plays off? Yeah, he was a loud mouth jerk, but he worked his arse off on the field. Moss did not.

Off the field stuff doesn't matter, but a HOFer doesn't play only when he feels like it. That is definitely part of his on-the-field performance. Moss, for the most part, was at his absolute worst in the playoffs.

Remember its the hall of fame, not the hall of stats.

Both matter to a degree. What if a guy comes along and posts 3 of the greatest seasons ever, but does nothing the rest of career? The level of dominance is there, but he just didn't play long enough. Moss had a period of dominance, but even then, did he give it his all?

A guy does not belong in the HOF simply because his physical skills are so much more better than everyone else. Players like Moss should be held to a higher standard.

People say he's one of the greatest ever. I say he's one of the most disappointing ever because of how much better he should've been. If he put in a shred of work during his career, he could still be dominating right now.

Moss has about as much chance of getting in on the 1st ballot as I do of winning the Powerball jackpot.

 

Moss has about as much chance of getting in on the 1st ballot as I do of winning the Powerball jackpot.

I would have said the same about Joe Namath and Lynn Swann ever getting in, but they did. Go buy your ticket...

There is no question Moss is a 1st ballot HOFer.  Comparing him tim Reed, Brown, Carter is unfair to him because he was a tier above all of these guys.

I would have said the same about Joe Namath and Lynn Swann ever getting in, but they did. Go buy your ticket...

And they have SB wins to back up their claims. Namath has an MVP. Plus, their numbers don't look nearly as good based on the era when they played.

Moss has nothing, and his career playoff performance is very uninspiring. In fact, his worst playoff years came with Tom Brady as his QB. Pathetic.

In 15 career playoff games, he had only 3 100 yard games (none since 2000) and only had 1 TD since 2004. 

Find me a 1st ballot HOFer that has Moss' poor playoff track record and his penchant for quitting on his teammates. I'll doubt you find one. In fact, I doubt you'll find many HOFers PERIOD that meet those criteria.

The HOF is an honor Moss doesn't deserve, let alone even being a 1st ballot player.

Here's Moss' career averages in 16 years:

61 receptions, 956 receiving yards, 10 TDs

Yippie!!! What an amazing player!

Okay, let's play that game. I'm presuming since statistics can be used to prove anything, you just did a crude total stats / years played to boast these numbers.

77 receptions, 1144 receiving yards, 10 TDs   

That's Jerry Rice.  The unequivocal greatest to ever play the game.


Oh wait, I've found your failure in your stat provided. I just checked out of morbid curiosity and realized that in calculating your totals you deduced '16 years' for Moss's career by adding the lines on his career totals.  You can't count each of the three teams he played on in 2010 as a 'year'. That's one year hombre.  Moss has had a 14 year career.  So to adjust your totals accordingly, his yearly averages are:

70 receptions ,1092 receiving yards, 11TDs      


So there you have it, over his career Randy Moss is giving you..on a yearly average..7 less receptions for 52 less yards (7 YPC) but actually providing one MORE TD per year as compared to the GOAT, over a FOURTEEN year career and you're chiding him as anything less than 1st ballot HOF.



I'm not a big Moss fan, but I call 'em like I see 'em.  Get your facts straight sir.      
   

The HOF is an honor Moss doesn't deserve, 

Because of your supposed moral high ground. Pfft.