#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 7:02 pm

Most cbb folks know the teams and their players, their records and the history of this rivalry.  My Michigan friends will never admit to any parity whatsoever between the schools (in any regard, including basketball - this year)...but they'd be first to admit there is no team anywhere they'd rather beat.  It's funny, there are probably no two programs in the country who, while studiously ignoring each others' records/performances (to-date) publically, know more about each others' strengths, weaknesses and potential...in other words, expect no surprises.

I'm a tad spooked...not because UM's "Pretty Boy Jumpshooters" (©IZZONE2012) have been playing NC-calibre ball for weeks now...not because MSU is (as was characterized elsewhere on these boards recently) a "Walking MASH Ward"...but because this game is being billed as a MUST SEE, a major media hype matchup...and Sparty (for every gawd damned reason you can imagine) ever seems to find a way to bungle big opportunities on the national stage.  Who knows though, it might happen.


UM 78 - MSU 83  

H2S
SinceJun 13, 2011
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 7:11 pm

Go Sparty
Josh
SinceAug 10, 2006
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 7:43 pm

UM 78 - MSU 83  
Not so fast, my friend H2S . . . even at Breslin Michigan wins this one.  Both teams will be "up" no matter how badly they are hurting.
UMichGradFan
SinceMar 26, 2011
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 8:47 pm

We will be ready to play.  Izzo is very high on this team right now.  As flat as I have scene us play here and there, this team finishes strong.  With under 10 in the second half we always seem to have some fuel in the tank.  Michigan is a very good team, but we do play defense.  And we have a post game for a change with outside shooters to compliment it.  Are losses were to UCONN by a couple the first game of the year in Germany.  Miami at Miami, they are playing just OK I guess.  Minni at Minni when they were ranked and playing well, it was a great game.  And at IU in what was a close game.  We seem to continue to grow and get better, I like our teams potential right now.  I think we are playing well enough to win.  My thought is UM will struggle with our post game.  IU did, Zeller is good but is a complete twig and is weak as a post defender against the Men we play up front.  Michigan will go into the half with the lead, 2-3 points.  MSU will fall some more to start the second half, 5-7 down.  It will see saw and then about the 8 minute mark we will surge as we have the entire year for the win.  
MSUCTM96
SinceJan 11, 2009
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 9:07 pm

When is the last time these two teams met in the top 10? Should be a great game.
Ovalvox
SinceOct 31, 2006
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 9:35 pm

even at Breslin Michigan wins

meh...it's been known to happen...in 2011 and 1997...2-12 isn't bad, I guess...Kiss

something tells me, though, that Izzo will have an extra couple of hospital gurneys at the ready for this one...let's hope Hightower isn't striping. 

go green! 
H2S
SinceJun 13, 2011
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 9:40 pm

When is the last time these two teams met in the top 10? Should be a great game.

haha...this is the first time in at least 27 years.  (perhaps the site's archivists can rustle up a definitive?...dust makes me sneeze.) 
H2S
SinceJun 13, 2011
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 9:50 pm

I'm fired up H2S. Both teams are treating it as a must win. State has to hold serve and UM can't afford to drop to four conference losses. Something has to give. The Spartans will have to get the ball inside and let big Nix and Payne do work. Izzo has been stealing minutes recently with the likes of Gauna, Costello, and Byrd, but the studs will need to play big minutes in this one. Stay out of foul trouble and don't give any open looks. Can't wait. Btw...H2S, I purchased some makers 46 and have held off opening it for this game. I figure this will be enough to give the Spartans the edge. I'll switch it up and drink a couple dark horse brewing plead the 5th stouts in the second half. Enjoy the game fans of both teams. This is what it's all about!
Al_McLovin
SinceJun 18, 2008
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 10:19 pm

My thought is UM will struggle with our post game.



I could not agree more. It seems like ever since Jordan Morgan went down with his injury, the interior defense as well as rebounding has been atrocious. I think both Nix and Payne have good games.  
BlackshirtD4Evr
SinceFeb 13, 2007
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 10:20 pm

Leave it to A_M to humble us plebe quaffers...I'll be slugging CTM96's patented V&V (vodka & vodka with a whisper of cranberry) to oblivion tomorrow...while the Al Man goes double bourbon McLovin.  Got a big kick out of one of the tasters' reviews of DH's world-class Plead the 5th: "Black as Death."  I ain nothing but jealous.
H2S
SinceJun 13, 2011
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 10:59 pm

Michigan needs their freshmen to be more assertive, Glenn Robinson's talent is ridiculous and it's been being wasted. Stauskas was very aggressive to start the season looking to prove himself, well I want to see more swagger again from him.

Burke and Hardway solid as always, Michigan is young and they will only win if these young players get back in the swing of things. The talent is through the roof but they flow hasn't been there as of late. Mitch McGary is proving to be a stud, Horford can play but is inconsistent. I'd like to see a little more Caris Levert, he has shown that he can defend and doesn't fold under pressure.

Michigan State has more talent than last year but Draymond Green was the heart and soul of that team. They still are lacking a true leader in my opinion, also they can be prone to turning the ball over a ton, I honestly don't understand why. Sure they don't have a Trey Burke dishing it out but Appling and Trice both can pass well. Also in Gary Harris, Denzel Valentine, Branden Dawson, even Derrick Nix they have guys that are unselfish and can pass. They like pretty much every Tom Izzo team seem to be below their potential this early in the season but you got to believe he'll have them firing on all cylinders when it matters most.

Like I said MSU can turn the ball over a lot at times, if that happens here it can allow UM to get going in the open court, that could really get them going as they haven been struggling lately in the halfcourt. Get their confidence up and it might be hard for MSU to stop their momentum. Although the could be said about the Spartans, Payne and Nix really could wreak havoc, Glenn Robinson has the tools to be a great defender but he's undersized here in the interior and despite his phyiscal makeup he doesn't seem to have figured out the defensive game yet. Also Dawson has been coming on strong he could have a big game.

The Wolverines need Stauskas to step up big, GRIII has to get back to getting points in transition, putbacks, cuts at the basket, and hitting open shots if he has the opportunity. If Michigan gets them two to play up to their potential Michigan should be able to win. If not it will be a tough game to call. Hard to pick a team here, I love both teams, everything says take State but I'll take Michigan 73 - 70. Both teams are Final 4 caliber, if Michigan wins here wouldn't be suprised to see Michigan State win in Ann Arbor on March 2nd.

Michigan Sports
SinceApr 5, 2007
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 11:35 pm

Lets make it simple.... Just like the Super Bowl or any other sporting event with evenly matched teams the one who ultimately makes plays wins.  UM is a great team, has been all year.  MSU has been a work in progress, but certainly has progressed.  I am excited for the game and for Michigan.  Your FL Alumi and Sports Boosters did not even know you had a basketball team two years ago.  That football school thought their own BB team was a joke, sad but true.  I laugh, my UM family Grads and Sports Boosters are glued to the BB games now.  I used to let them know when UM BB games were and they laughed.  It's Funny but yet sad.
MSUCTM96
SinceJan 11, 2009
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 11, 2013 11:40 pm

GRIII has been awful the past couple games, so has Stauskas. We will see what happens tomorrow night. I like MIchigan in this game, I think they will come out looking for blood. You know Hardaway and Burke will get theres. If Stuaskas and GRIII get going, game over.

Michigan- 76
MSU-69
thewizardofoz13
SinceNov 30, 2012
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 12:27 am

UM is a great team, has been all year. MSU has been a work in progress, but certainly has progressed. I am excited for the game and for Michigan. Your FL Alumi and Sports Boosters did not even know you had a basketball team two years ago. That football school thought their own BB team was a joke, sad but true. I laugh, my UM family Grads and Sports Boosters are glued to the BB games now. I used to let them know when UM BB games were and they laughed. It's Funny but yet sad.
That is sad, very sad, I'm no alumni that's why I choose to root for all Michigan teams. However I've been cheering for Michigan since I can remember and I'm only 21 so I haven't seen anything good out of Michigan basketball until the past few seasons. But for alumni to be fairweather fans of their own alma mater, well like you said that is "SAD".

Almost as sad as peope who laughed at the Lions until the 2011 season but then they probably flip-flopped back after the abysmal 2012 season, not a lot of true fans out there.

Michigan Sports
SinceApr 5, 2007
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 1:59 am

Good thing about this game is the same thing about the Illinois/Purdue game coming up....Somebody has to lose.
bricktop
SinceJun 12, 2007
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 3:38 am

Too close to call, but if you put a gun to my head I´d pick the home team.  Note: the last time that happened my hometeam choice ¨at gunpoint¨ (Ohio State) got pounded at home by the Hoosiers :(
Humble_7
SinceFeb 8, 2013
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 6:56 am

I gotta admit, this is the best Michigan team since wolvie took the basketball team off the payroll.
Izzone
SinceSep 23, 2006
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 9:31 am

The Big10 is playing some great basketball and continue to knock each other off the top rung.  Tonights game will be fun to watch being I have no skin in the game.  Looking forward to a hard fought battle and will pick the winner later.......about Midnight. 
Runeman1
SinceFeb 9, 2012
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 9:40 am

I have State winning at home on the pickem thread.  Both teams are looking very good lately and this is going to be a bruiser.  Good luck to both teams and fans.  Cept izzone. 

jonvi
SinceMay 13, 2010
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#4 Michigan @ #8 Michigan State

February 12, 2013 10:44 am

state wins the pretty boy jump shooters will have to be lights out to win. and i just dont see that happening. michigan st by 10
michstforlife
SinceJan 22, 2013