And dont forget, there were times last year and this year, where people actually questioned if Joe was the franchise QB. I cant say I was one of them - but there were some rumbles from fans. When have you ever heard a NE, NY, Den, NO, or GB fan question whether or not their QB was their future.Some fans called for his head mid-season, I won't deny it because I saw it firsthand, but I knew even when he was in his slump that we would still have to pay him. The postseason just jacked the number up. He's good enough most times to be necessary, he's great enough some of the time to be a commodity.
His regular season stats may not be stellar, but I don't see how the Ravens can justify not paying him like a top 5 when "top 10" QBs like Philip Rivers get 7yr/$98 mil dollar deals and can barely sniff the playoffs, let alone win in them and bring home a SBThis is pretty much it. People are saying "Flacco doesn't deserve $20M a year" and I agree, but he'll get it because other undeserving QBs have jacked up the going rate now.
By the 5th year of the deal, it is unlikely that Joe would even be in the top 10 highest paid QBs.
No, I do NOT think Joe is better than either one of them but he's won more since 08 and matches their title wins. The front office isn't going to care about stats. They care about wins and fortunately for Joe, he's about as elite as they come in that category. His playoff performance has been much better the last 3 seasons and he's currently sitting on top of the football world as the reigning superbowl MVPThe stats are secondary. I do believe the Ravens front office will look at the entire body of work.
The Ravens front office is screwed any way they do it.I wouldn;t say screwed. I think that if they believe he's worth it they'll pay it. It really depends on how far off Joe's agent is with their perceived value. Remember that it not just Joe saying he's the best QB in the league. The team pretty much thinks too having stood behind him for 5 years. They just have to put a value on his worth.
They can either pay him top 5 money; or slap a non-exclusive franchise tag on him for $14 mil and run the risk of losing him to another t eam willing to pony up two 1st round picks; or slap the exclusive franchise tag, pay him $20 mil and put off the inevitable for a year in the "hopes" that he what? Doesn't repeat this season's success? None of the Ravens brass really wants him to fail just so they can pay him less do they? lol
If the Ravens end up signing Joe for $18-19 million a year they have to consider it a big win on their part.I would consider that a great achievement by both parties. For the Ravens in getting a great value for a guy commanding top 5 or even 3 money and for Joe for seeing theboigger picture - that a few mil that level isn't everything. If he wasn't so worried about STATS being a mark of status, then perhaps he won;t need to be the highest paid QB on the NFL.
Joe steps up his game in the post-season but has problems with consistency during the regular season. Maybe this was because of Cameron, maybe not. I guess we'll see next year.
But the front office surely realizes that, while Joe is a top 6 or 7 QB in this league, his performance, like all QB's, is dependant upon the team and players around him. That and a certain amount of good fortune during the season
If the Ravens pay him $20 mil/per and can't afford the talent around him, do we have just another over priced QB on a mediocre team and we're locked in cap hell for the next 7 years?So you're saying that no team should ever offer a second contract to a QB, because essentially, if you have a franchise QB, you are going to have to pay them this kind of money to keep them, because someone else will gladly pay them that to take them off your hands. Us Ravens fans have not had to deal with paying a QB top dollar before, so I know it is going to take some time to get used to, but we absolutely cannot let Joe go and go through another QB carousel desperately trying to find the next Joe Flacco. Besides, if Joe's contract averages $20 mil a year, that does not mean he will actually hit the cap for that every year. These long term contracts are made up to be cap friendly over the first half and then you can look at restructuring/extending in the second half to buy some relief. Other teams have managed to hang on to a top dollar QB and still be successful. I am confident that we can as well.