The division you're in sucks.and the Steelers SUCK in the division they are in.
The reason why the cry-baby whiners ike Rayne will always fail in this argument, is that BB's Patriotsoverall winning percentage before "spygate" is .693 (86-38), while their winning percentage after is .764 (81-25).The OP already pointed out that the regualr season success is still there. As it should be from being in such a pathetically weak division. It's the POSTSEASON SUCCESS that the Pats have failed to replicate. The numbers are there. There is no arguing this.
That triggers all sorts of "but, but ... David Tyree! That proves that the tapes won you the Super Bowl!" nonsense, and crazy make-em-up theories like "well, the tapes only helped in the post-season, as evidenced by the Pats just making 2 Super Bowls and not winning them."
Imagine how much easier it would be for people like Rayne if the Patriots actually won LESS OFTEN after Spygate. If they lost more often. Imagine that. If it was a huge disparity in winning percentage.
Nope, instead, they actually win more frequently, which is why she spends these Pats threads running around in circles and cornering herself into making outrageous claims, like a 14-game sample compared to a 10-game sample proves how spygate impacted the NFL.
It never gets old.
Actually, Pats fans are the ones that fail on this.LMAO! Look at this pathetic loser!
They want so badly to point to points scored - but they forget that the rules have changed and everyone is scoring more points.
So they point to winning percentage - but also forget their division sucks. They win it by default every year. Imagine if they played the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens twice a year.
Think they'd win as many games. The Ravens beat them twice in '12 and we beat them the last time we played them as well.
And, as I've said more than a year ago and many times, the Pats taped during the regular season for use in the post season.
That's where we see the difference.
3-0 with the tapes.
0-2 without them.
Winning percentage with tapes - 85%
Winning percentage without tapes - 50%
Night and day, guys.
You're good enough to make it to the post season with or without the tapes, but you needed the tapes to get you over the hump. Without them you're not that good.
Tom Brady and BB looked absolutely LOST.
Care to explain why these two that were formally SO unbeatable in the post season at home have lost so badly recently? Twice to the Ravens ('09 and this year) as well as the Jets in '10. We're not talking they beat you just a little....they kinda curb stomped you in your own house.
LMAO! Look at this pathetic loser!Tell us something we don't already know.....She needs an INTERVENTION.
This broad's nuttier than a squirrel's turd. Truely a disturbed individual.
Actually, Pats fans are the ones that fail on this.
They want so badly to point to points scored - but they forget that the rules have changed and everyone is scoring more points
Mr. Goodell, though, said none of the tapes or notes the league confiscated from the Patriots indicated any illegal activity took place before late in the 2006 season.
So they point to winning percentage - but also forget their division sucks. They win it by default every year. Imagine if they played the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens twice a year.Oh, okay.
Think they'd win as many games.