Brady and (Post) and (Pre) Spygate Success

The division you're in sucks.

and the Steelers SUCK in the division they are in.

The reason why the cry-baby whiners ike Rayne will always fail in this argument, is that BB's Patriots overall winning percentage before "spygate" is .693 (86-38), while their winning percentage after is .764 (81-25).  

That triggers all sorts of "but, but ... David Tyree! That proves that the tapes won you the Super Bowl!" nonsense, and crazy make-em-up theories like "well, the tapes only helped in the post-season, as evidenced by the Pats just making 2 Super Bowls and not winning them."  

Imagine how much easier it would be for people like Rayne if the Patriots actually won LESS OFTEN after Spygate.  If they lost more often.  Imagine that.  If it was a huge disparity in winning percentage.  

Nope, instead, they actually win more frequently, which is why she spends these Pats threads running around in circles and cornering herself into making outrageous claims, like a 14-game sample compared to a 10-game sample proves how spygate impacted the NFL.

It never gets old.   

Points allowed per game WITH tapes - 18.2

Points allowed per game WITHOUT tapes - 23.5

So we see that you allowed 5 more points per game WITHOUT tapes than with them. 


This makes no sense,when you keep saying that they stole defensive signals, why would you bring up what the defense did . Question asked to you was did the offense score more points when they had film on the opposing defense  or did they score more points post spy-gate?

The reason why the cry-baby whiners ike Rayne will always fail in this argument, is that BB's Patriotsoverall winning percentage before "spygate" is .693 (86-38), while their winning percentage after is .764 (81-25).  

That triggers all sorts of "but, but ... David Tyree! That proves that the tapes won you the Super Bowl!" nonsense, and crazy make-em-up theories like "well, the tapes only helped in the post-season, as evidenced by the Pats just making 2 Super Bowls and not winning them."  

Imagine how much easier it would be for people like Rayne if the Patriots actually won LESS OFTEN after Spygate.  If they lost more often.  Imagine that.  If it was a huge disparity in winning percentage.  

Nope, instead, they actually win more frequently, which is why she spends these Pats threads running around in circles and cornering herself into making outrageous claims, like a 14-game sample compared to a 10-game sample proves how spygate impacted the NFL.

It never gets old.   

The OP already pointed out that the regualr season success is still there. As it should be from being in such a pathetically weak division. It's the POSTSEASON SUCCESS that the Pats have failed to replicate. The numbers are there. There is no arguing this.

Actually, Pats fans are the ones that fail on this.

They want so badly to point to points scored - but they forget that the rules have changed and everyone is scoring more points.

So they point to winning percentage - but also forget their division sucks. They win it by default every year. Imagine if they played the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens twice a year.

Every year.

Think they'd win as many games. The Ravens beat them twice in '12 and we beat them the last time we played them as well.

And, as I've said more than a year ago and many times, the Pats taped during the regular season for use in the post season.

That's where we see the difference.

3-0 with the tapes.

0-2 without them.

Winning percentage with tapes - 85%

Winning percentage without tapes - 50%

Night and day, guys.

Conclusion?

You're good enough to make it to the post season with or without the tapes, but you needed the tapes to get you over the hump. Without them you're not that good.

Tom Brady and BB looked absolutely LOST.

At home.

AGAIN.

Care to explain why these two that were formally SO unbeatable in the post season at home have lost so badly recently? Twice to the Ravens ('09 and this year) as well as the Jets in '10. We're not talking they beat you just a little....they kinda curb stomped you in your own house.

TrannyTroll...aren't you the one who claims to remember EVERYTING about the Steelers as far back as when you were 9 years old? YES....I thought so but yet it was you who ran their mouth about other players from other teams who were using PEDs...only to ask when was the last time a Steeler player was caught using PEDs....weren't you told Weslye Saunders in the 1st game of the 2012 season.....and now you make claim that ALL teams are scoring more points due to rules being changed....and AGAIN you are dead wrong....and again about your own team.....The Steelers scored less points in the 2012 season than they did in 2011......BUSTED....AGAIN. I would recommend you moving on to another site and starting over...before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have.

Well if it isn't my lost puppy, Raving Maniac.

You feeling lonely honey? Need a hug?

No matter what I post I'll never be able to beat these whoppers by you:

1) L.T. retired in 1981

2) L.T. never had any forced fumbles

3) Dick Butkus never had any sacks


Way to go! That's a new level of idiotcy.

<p>OK....I will give you that one....the Steelers scored 11 more points in 2012.....oops. </p>

WOW....and I figured you would have tried to prove me wrong...but instead you posted rubbish.....even when I corrected myself.....Are you still wondering if any Steeler players were caught using PEDs lately though?

I'm never lonely.....why, you atill want me to come up and see you.....I told ya NO before....stop asking.

It's funny how TrannyTroll spend her time in this pathetic circle of threads she chooses to particpate in...or shouls I say...get laughed at in. If it's not Spygate....it's Bountygate.......if it's not that then it's Romo sucks......and if it's not that it's Ray Lewis is a murderer and the suit proves it. You would think that with all the trials and tribulations the Steelerts are having with internal issues and age of the Steelerts she would be joining her Steeler faithful and talking about what they think could be done to rectify their issues....instead she is laughed at repeatedly by Patriots fans.....Cowboys fans.....Saints fans....Ravens fans....and even her own Steeler fans. I wonder if that job pays $14.00 per hour

Are you still wondering if any Steeler players were caught using PEDs lately though?

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I hear Big Ben is the guy to talk to for Viagra and Cialis!

He should......his commercial would be.....Hi, I'm Ben Roethlisberger and if you are as ugly as me...ugly women is all you can get. So ugly getting it up is....well pretty hard. so I take Viagra.......when an ugly girl is all that is available.

Actually, Pats fans are the ones that fail on this.

They want so badly to point to points scored - but they forget that the rules have changed and everyone is scoring more points.

So they point to winning percentage - but also forget their division sucks. They win it by default every year. Imagine if they played the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens twice a year.

Every year.

Think they'd win as many games. The Ravens beat them twice in '12 and we beat them the last time we played them as well.

And, as I've said more than a year ago and many times, the Pats taped during the regular season for use in the post season.

That's where we see the difference.

3-0 with the tapes.

0-2 without them.

Winning percentage with tapes - 85%

Winning percentage without tapes - 50%

Night and day, guys.

Conclusion?

You're good enough to make it to the post season with or without the tapes, but you needed the tapes to get you over the hump. Without them you're not that good.

Tom Brady and BB looked absolutely LOST.

At home.

AGAIN.

Care to explain why these two that were formally SO unbeatable in the post season at home have lost so badly recently? Twice to the Ravens ('09 and this year) as well as the Jets in '10. We're not talking they beat you just a little....they kinda curb stomped you in your own house.  

LMAO! Look at this pathetic loser!

This broad's nuttier than a squirrel's turd. Truely a disturbed individual.    

LMAO! Look at this pathetic loser!

This broad's nuttier than a squirrel's turd. Truely a disturbed individual.    

Tell us something we don't already know.....She needs an INTERVENTION. 

Actually, Pats fans are the ones that fail on this. 

They want so badly to point to points scored - but they forget that the rules have changed and everyone is scoring more points

Your post before this you singled out the Pats allowing 5 more points per game. Now everyone scores more?(which obviously means teams allow more)....As usual you seem confused. Does every team allow more points now or just the Pats "post taping" ?








Another simple question you've yet to answer: How does 'no illegal activity before late in '06" = "cheating" to win SBs before '06? 

Mr. Goodell, though, said none of the tapes or notes the league confiscated from the Patriots indicated any illegal activity took place before late in the 2006 season.

http://blogs.wsj.com/superbowl/2008
/02/01/roger-on-spygate-let-it-go-p
eople/


A: it doesnt. Unless you're a moron, hater or freaking cry baby. You are all 3 and then some. They kicked your asses. Deal with it. move on. Happens to every team, even your precious Steelers who BTW played like crap in both champ games and wouldn't have beaten anybody. 9 (5 and 4) turnovers in 2 games? You're gonna lose. Give up 2 TDs on specials? You're gonna lose. 



Fact: until that memo in 2006 there was nothing in the rule book about filming signals. Nothing. Still isn't as far as I know although there's little need for hand signals anymore anyway . Only the locations you could film from. Where you can film from isn't an issue in most stadiums except Lambeau the old Giants/Jets stadium. The 2 places the Pats got 'caught' (as if they were even trying to hide it....)


You're such a hypocrit though. Steroids weren't banned in the NFL, just illegal in the real world so that's OK. Well taping signals wasn't banned until '06 in some memo, not even a real rule which we all usually hear about,  but you (and others) say the Pats cheated to win SBs when there was NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY until 2006....And even funnier you can't see how ridiculous you are.



No illegal activity=cheating to you. 


not sure if that's funny or sad....I mean you supposedly defended my country at 1 time? And you're this DENSE???












 

So they point to winning percentage - but also forget their division sucks. They win it by default every year. Imagine if they played the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens twice a year. 

Every year. 

Think they'd win as many games. 

Oh, okay.  

Today you want to try and play the "but, but ... they point to winning percentage forgetting that their division sucks!" card?

Well, let's examine the Patriots winning percentage outside the division, then ... since the only explanation of winning percentage is because the Pats play in a weak division:  

BB's Patriots record vs. non-division opponents pre-spygate:  .696 (55-24)

BB's Patriots record vs. non-division opponents post-spygate:  .727 (48-16)

Uh oh.  Wait, the Pats were only supposed to have a better winning percentage because they play a weak division schedule, but their record against non-division opponents has ALSO INCREASED post-spygate?!?!?

Oops.  WRONG AGAIN, Rayne.  

Any other crazy make-em-ups that you want to go for?

This is why you fail.  

Maybe you should stick to your clinging of a 3 game sample vs. a 2 game sample, when you're pathetically making your "argument" to discredit the success of a 123-game sample. 

Wrong, wrong, wrong again, kiddo.  

You're like a punching bag that needs a few more rolls of duct tape, honestly. 

Yeah ok. Hey man pretending to be a woman, the Patriots dynasty run of the early part of the 2000's hasn't been seen in the post salary cap era. They're the only dynasty since that policy and the addition of Free Agency has come in to play. Why would you or you're karate kicking partner in stupidity think that a team not being able to replicate what no other team in the league has found a way to do in this era, point to anything damning?? 
Even more, the only team to come close to replicating it is the Patriots themselves! When a QB leads his team to the Super Bowl on average, every other year, it's time to stop hating and grow the hell up. The team's totally changed all it's personnel and most of it's coaches/coords and they just keep rolling with Brady and Belichick. You're nothing but a winey little sore loser and you fountain complete foolishness every day. Must have been all that time you spent being a lowly scut on that transporter huh? Take a long walk on a short pier and do us all a favor why don't you!

You can slice it, spin it, deflect it any way you want - in the end the Pats post season record hasn't been the same post spygate as it was during spygate. It's that simple.

Let me know when the Steelers replicate their 70's success. Why haven't they been able to match what they did in the 70's? Can you answer that or no?


That's how DUMB your comment is.