Everyone did it" is not a defense because you still broke the rules

Your right I was giving the 70 Steelers a pass on steroids because I'm sure others teams had a guy or 2 on them  but Steelers are the only ones singled out  by the team trainer  and all the premature deaths linked to steroid abuse   Need 5 more to stairway to 7  having those 4 *    tainted   shame

Like it or not, Tom Brady had the signals of the defenses he was facing and won games.

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What teams and what games? Because again, four of the nine playoff wins during those super bowl runs weren't rematches, thus any advantage with signals is nonexistant. And of the other five, amazingly these stolen signals that were supposed to aid the offense resulted in less points scored than the first meeting. 

So what happened?

Yeah, that's a bit of an advantage. 

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An advantage that didn't show any edge for eight of nine postseason games in that frame? Ummm...where? 

I'm not taking a side, just pointing out a logic flaw. A teams does not have to gain an unfair advantage in every playoff game for it to be serious. If you win one playoff game where you had an advantage, it affects future playoff games that season, because you may have avoided elimination through an unfair advantage.

"Everyone did it" is not a defense because you still broke the rules.

You just won't get it through your thick skull why "everyone did it" is said, will you?

"everyone did it" speaks to how big an advantage they got (none)  - not to whether or not what they did was right.


Grow a brain, would you?

PLEASE?

We know what was on the tapes thanks to Gregg Aiello, spokesperson for the NFL. The tape would show signals being sent in by the coaches along with the down, distance, period, time left, yards to gain, etc, then the play from the field vantage point, then the play from the birds eye view. This was done for EVERY PLAY on film.

THAT INFORMATION IS STILL AVAILABLE TODAY YOU $*@#*(i IDIOT!!!!

^ I'm surprised more people don't just type that when responding to tranny instead of actually trying to teach him football.

Fast fact: FIVE times in the Pats three championship seasons you faced someone in the post season that you faced in the regular season.

Five.

Change the outcome of any one of them and the Pats lose a Lombardi.

You were 85% in the post season for a REASON. You had the other teams signals.

Without them, you're 50%.

Fast fact: FIVE times in the Pats three championship seasons you faced someone in the post season that you faced in the regular season. 

Five. 

Change the outcome of any one of them and the Pats lose a Lombardi. 

You were 85% in the post season for a REASON. You had the other teams signals. 

Without them, you're 50%.
















So what. No rules were broken until '06. 





not that you can grasp that fact but... 

I'll go ahead and disagree that knowing defensive signals were the reason the Pats won. It was pointed out that everyone did it, if that's the case then defenses would conctantly be changing up the signals or varying them enough so that if you did have tape it wouldn't matter. These guys aren't dummies and are for the most part all on the same page. So drop the cheating helped win because it didn't.

You were 85% in the post season for a REASON. You had the other teams signals.

Can you prove this...that they had the signals of those teams?

I'd like to see it in print from the source where you got your info from.

POST THE SOURCE PLEASE.

Your right I was giving the 70 Steelers a pass on steroids because I'm sure others teams had a guy or 2 on them  but Steelers are the only ones singled out  by the team trainer  and all the premature deaths linked to steroid abuse   Need 5 more to stairway to 7  having those 4 *    tainted   shame

sonny..you also have to add it the Lombardi during the season Cowher admitted to also stealing signals by having spies in the stands stealing signals.

I would not have an issue with her except she thinks that everyone else is breaking the rules and needs to be fined, punished or stripped of titles except for the Steelers who she herself claims to be some expert on and can remember everything back to when she was 9 years old but somehow forgets all the negative and skeletons in the closet the team has.

This chickenspit broad won't comment on my last two points, will she?

1) "Everybody did it" isn't an excuse for cheating - it's the reason why it wasn't a big deal

2) And I'd LOVE to see her acknowlege the fact that everything - EVERYTHING on those tapes are still available to everybody.


won't do it though.  She'll just remind us about the Patriots winning 3 specific games.

"Everybody did it" isn't an excuse for cheating - it's the reason why it wasn't a big deal

If everybody did it then why do the Patriots need to be stripped of 3 titles?

Post the source, please.

Sure. Gregg Aiello - spokesperson for the NFL.

When Walsh turned in the tapes he kept from when he was the film guy there, some of them were labed, "Offensive signals". Which kinda surprised everyone because people thought that sending signals in was done just on the defensive side of the ball. As it turned out, some teams still used hand signals and arm motions.

It was Gregg Aiello that described what was on the film.

Signals being sent in along with the down, distance, etc, followed by the play in question being run from the illegal film level camera, then from the  overhead legal shot. Gregg even went to the trouble of saying that it was clear to him that Walsh's only job was to film the signals and game on the field.

[http://sports/espn.go.com/nfl/colum
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EVERYTHING on those tapes is still avail. to EVERYBODY.

PROVE THAT!

Go ahead...SHOW me where EVERYBODY can get signals of coaches sending in plays.

Which kinda surprised everyone because people thought that sending signals in was done just on the defensive side of the ball. As it turned out, some teams still used hand signals and arm motions. 

Sometimes the radios go down, you use hand signals on offense. Sometimes in No huddle you'll just use hand signs. Most knowlegable football fans should know this. And you claim people, NFL people,  were surprised therewere 'offensive signals' on the tapes?. Probably why you didn't post the link you were asked for, just made up your own little story no one with a brain would buy.

 Gregg even went to the trouble of saying that it was clear to him that Walsh's only job was to film the signals and game on the field. 

Yeah that's what camera guys do, they film things. Thanks for that brilliant insight

Probably why you didn't post the link.

Ah, but I did.

And here it is again, Sherlock.

I thought better of colleges in Boston than that.

Guess you overpaid.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum
ns/story?id=3387401

sonny..you also have to add it the Lombardi during the season Cowher admitted to also stealing signals by having spies in the stands stealing signals.

RM I didnt want her to jump off any bridges  are there any in Wyoming  you take away the one the zebra's robbed from Seattle and they have 1 legit one

 If everybody did it then why do the Patriots need to be stripped of 3 titles


Nobody is stripping it except Tran and Manning ballwashers  that try to diminish Brady's greatness.  She is jealous of Pats , Balt and NO, and Giants  because people are talking about them and not so much the Steelers  since the 70's.  Pats werent really relevant till the 2000's. I suffered of over 30 years with 2 blowouts in the SB

I agree Sonny...the only reason I bring it up is because TrannyTroll refuses...or is Texas 2 stepping around it. She continues to refuse to acknowldge that the Steelers took as many if not more shortcuts than other teams do...and if 1 deserves to loose titles than so do the Steelers.

Signals being sent in with down, distance, etc.

Another day, another few posts where Rayne gets pounded up and down.  

News flash, Rayne:  the NFL's Policy Manual for Member Clubs Volume II states that teams MUST include all of those things when taping. Every piece of footage that a team tapes must include a shot of the scoreboard, which includes (uh oh ...) down, distance, etc.

So ... wrong again. 

This is pretty similar to when you stated that taping was "illegal, period".  Then I proved you wrong by showing you where the NFL handbook states where teams can tape from and what the Policy Manual states teams must include between each shot they tape.

Just another in the long line of your total screw-ups with this whole "spygate" thing.      

Still ... if one thing cracks me up, it's Rayne's "yeah, but, if you ONLY look at THESE 14 games out of 100+ pre-spygate games, and you compare them to ONLY THESE 10 games post-spygate, it proves Spygates impact on the NFL!!" cry-babying.

That came on the heels of her "the Pats only have a better overall winning record post-spygate because of a weak division!", which I also proved to be incorrect, since their out-of-division winning percentage has also increased post-spygate.  

Tough stretch for you, huh Rayne? 

Here's a tip:  stop making stuff up, and stop stating "facts" that are easily proven to be false.