Restoring Order to the CBS-o-sphere

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February 13, 2013 5:28 pm

Roger Clemens was no Pedro Martinez... 


i'd take either.  but if I had to pick one in their primes...i'm going with Clemens.
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:29 pm

The only argument you can make? Clemens had *longevity*...


Is longevity a good thing or a bad thing this week? A couple of weeks ago, it was a bad thing. Just like doubles......
Jerzyjeff
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February 13, 2013 5:29 pm

Clemens lasted longer.....Pedro was more dominant... 


did pedro ever strike out 20?  Twice?
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:30 pm

3 straight ropes would supposedly indicate Posada will hit a rope, no?

Those 3 ropes indicated nothing at all like what Posada actually hit

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hindsight

he was getting hit that inning and was clearly gassed

posada was a good hitter 

so hiim getting hit hard isn't indicitive of posada hitting him hard even though he didnt?

 
RedSoxGalaxy
SinceMar 1, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:31 pm

yes GD saying 7 innings in september


and i think you, might've been someone else saying something along this lines of "even GD sees it" 



thats not what I said at all.  
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:31 pm

i'd take either.  but if I had to pick one in their primes...i'm going with Clemens.




well let me put my surprised face on..............

































Surprised 
J-E-T-S
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February 13, 2013 5:31 pm

ok, well it aint worth arguing cause we got to celebrate a win the following year


i disagree w/ ya, but i'll see your side enough not to argue that

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lets do 2004 tomorrow

Nasty is running out of TUMS

lata
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February 13, 2013 5:32 pm

LOL... You're a bad liar... 



but that did make me LOL... 



In spite of yourself, I like you GD... I'd buy you a glass of single malt if ever the opportunity arose...



not lying.  i'd take clemens over pedro.  
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:32 pm

we're including steriods and all right?  if so...i'd take Clemens.  all day long. 
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:32 pm


did pedro ever strike out 20?  Twice?
That's 2 starts out of hundreds

Did Roger Clemens ever have an entire season with a 291 ERA+?

(no that's not a typo.... 291)
village plumber
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February 13, 2013 5:33 pm

Sept. 10, 1999 - The performance was so brilliant that by the time Pedro Martinez finished up with five straight strikeouts at Yankee Stadium, even the rival Yankees fans were applauding him.

The Boston righthander threw a one-hitter, striking out a career-high 17, in beating first-place New York, 3-1. It was the most strikeouts ever against the Yankees.

Martinez allowed two baserunners - Chuck Knoblauch, who was hit by a pitch leading off in the first inning, and Chili Davis, who homered in the second. He retired the final 22 batters, fanning 12 of the last 15.

"This is as good as it gets. I won't lie," said Martinez, who won his 21st game of the season with his second career one-hitter.

Mike Stanley's two-run homer in the sixth put Boston ahead 2-1, and Martinez took it from there. He threw 81 of his 121 pitches for strikes.

"I've been around the game 26 years," Red Sox pitching coach Joe Kerrigan said, "and I've never seen anything like it."



this is one game right? 

G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:34 pm

did pedro ever strike out 20?  Twice?
That's 2 starts out of hundreds

Did Roger Clemens ever have an entire season with a 291 ERA+?

(no that's not a typo.... 291)


i'd still take him over pedro.  but thats about it.  
G.D.IS.BALD
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February 13, 2013 5:34 pm

You hear anyone questioning Girardi's decision to leave him in a situation that "appears" to not be working?

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Now, if only CC had a well documented, season long, issue of becoming very hittable past 100 pitches..


He didn't....so, your analogy kind of sucks....



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February 13, 2013 5:35 pm

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chjohnst2
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February 13, 2013 5:35 pm

thats not what I said at all.  








Not against NY, who made a habit of running up his pitch count and then scuffling a run or two off him.


In September of that year, he was blanking the Yanks through 5, got his pitch count up into the 90s, he gave up back to back doubles.


He didn't come out for the 7th.




you did mention the 7th, and failed to mention a 9-1 lead


and they did hope on and say "even GD sees what we are saying"





and they were implying the 7th inning 
J-E-T-S
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February 13, 2013 5:37 pm

Yeah... Pedro and Clemens went head to head in multiple playoff games and huge regular season showdowns... 



Pedro owned him... Owned him... 



and I believe you only because you said "owned him" twice.  Undecided

the greatest pitching performance I have ever seen between two pitchers was that Yanks v. Sox game, Clemens vs Pedro.  both had no-no's going into the 9th.  Sox won the game....but Clemens wasn't "owned"  not even close.  
G.D.IS.BALD
SinceOct 11, 2006