Kobe owns Lebron

Was there a game on yesterday or something? I was busy watching zombie heads getting smashed in by hatchback doors! I hope Tyrese and his crew make it back to the prison.  

That was a big part of what MJ so seemingly unbeatable. Even when teams would seem to have the upper hand, they played as if they were waiting for the proverbial "other shoe to drop" and when he would get going, you could see the opponent respond almost like "here we go again".

You put it a lot better than I could.  Maybe he will learn from this and put down any "rebellion" before it has a chance to get started from now on.  I'm sure Wade said the same I am saying to Lebron in private. 

Thats why this seemingly unimportant stretch of 5-6 minutes will matter.

LOL Lebron will get back to what he's been doing through 50 games wed night.

This is much adu about nothing.

All of sudden because LBJ had a bad night in a meaningless AS game it will matter in what happen when the games actually count.

I feel bad for the Atlanta Hawks.

You do realize you're making bigger deal out of this than what happen when LBJ played Kobe in a game that actually counted in the standings.

Kobe had 2 stops against him in a 6 min stretch? Want a cookie? That wasn't the first time and it will not be the last time a defender stopped LBJ twice in a 6 min span

When LBJ win MVP and finals MVP get back to me on how this made LBJ look weak and gave Heat opponents hope as well.

Some on here cried last year for Wade being 'to physical' for accidently breaking Bryant's nose.


"It's the all-star game...he fouled him too hard"  was mentioned over and over again. 

IT WAS A COMPLAINT - NOT CRYING AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE(look up the meanings and study them since you obviously don't know that difference)


The complaint was that Wade may have did it intentionally period and should have been penalized atleast with a flagarant. Personally I was hoping Kobe would reciprocat and brake his nose or something, but Kobe is very focused on more important issues and does not bother with trivia      

I get what you're saying!  But do you really think the pecking order is established in two challenging plays in a meaningless game? 

No but it is disrupted.  Back to my wolf analogy.  The lead wolf never tolerates even the slightest challenge to his authority.  As long as he does this the pack functions as it should. If he lets the slightest challenge go unpunished the pack is thrown into chaos and does not function like it should.  The lead wolf is challenged more and more frequently as his opponents grow more courageous.  Eventually a challenger draws blood and the other wolves destroy the leader of drive him out.  To many Lebron has only just recently been the "lead wolf".  The "pack" or NBA is watching for any sign of weakness to take him down.

Was there a game on yesterday or something? I was busy watching zombie heads getting smashed in by hatchback doors!

Awesome scene!!

"1.) You have no idea whether Lebron cares whether Kobe or anyone else respects him. You are not his spokesperson"



James is currently on top of the NBA world in almost, if not all areas.  When you are top, people look to take shots at you. TRUST me, he isn't the least bit concerned with playing whatever game Kobe was attempting to bait him into.   



     "2.) Kobe issued a challenge and Lebron backed away. This is now 2 All-Star games in a row where Kobe has issued a challenge (remember Kobe telling him to shoot it at the end of last seasons game?) and Lebron has backed away from the challenge"



 Ditto.




James doesn't need to worry what Jordan would think or do. It doesn't matter. James is James, and that is plenty good enough.        

It depends on the challenge.  I'd not waste my time on beating up a lesser opponent.   As clearly acknowledged at this point in time, K. Bryant is not anywhere near L. James level.   What do you gain on beating up on one?

Because that "lesser opponent" also happens to be one of the all-time great players in NBA history and is the guy that you are currently being unfavorably compared to when it comes to rings. You were just told by the person the most consider the GOAT that you weren't as good as that player. I mean c'mon, this is Kobe Bryant that was issuing the challenge, not some bench player.

As a superior play, you can't win in either situation.

I disagree. Lebron definitely would have won a little something had he done that. And even if didn't gain as much by dominating Kobe (as he should have) he loses more by not responding to the challenge if for no other reason than "not stepping up" has been one of the criticisms that has dogged him for his whole career.

At worst, it was a "lesser of two evils" situation where the lesser of the two would have been to dominate Kobe. 

At worst, it was a "lesser of two evils" situation where the lesser of the two would have been to dominate Kobe.

But James already did twice in dominating fashion late in the 4th quarters, in both games that matter.



   

read Lebron's body language after the second block.  He looked like a beaten man.  He tried to take it to Kobe but couldn't get around him without a screen, and poor Lebron still couldn't score. 

    " I think what turnip is trying to say is that LeBron was just "doinking" around on Sunday - during the All-Star Game, and with the outcome still very much on the line - just like the Miami Heat have been prone to do during this regular season, in games that count, and that he's perfectly OK with this idea of turning it on and turning if off whenever he feels like it.
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Outcome of an exhibition game?  

Is the all star game more meaningfull then a pre season game?


Every day the Heat players wake up healthy, they are fine.

The goal is to peak heading into the playoffs, not in November like the Knicks did.

The Heat are coasting to a #1 seed in the East. 

James said he felt they are at about 70% of where they need to be.



SO, now let's hear what the Lakers are going to do now that we have reached the all star break?

W and L's from this point on?  Numbers please!                          

What you don't seem to understand is that James isn't worried about whether you or Kobe respect him.

And here are a couple things that you don't seem to understand:

1.) You have no idea whether Lebron cares whether Kobe or anyone else respects him. You are not his spokesperson.

Trojanfan, clearly turnip is LeBron's spokesperson...

TRUST me, he isn't the least bit concerned with playing whatever game Kobe was attempting to bait him into.

James doesn't need to worry what Jordan would think or do. It doesn't matter. James is James, and that is plenty good enough.

Trust him...James is James!  LOL!

But James already did twice in dominating fashion late in the 4th quarters, in both games that matter.

True, but it's about stepping up to every challenge. That is what drove MJ to his 6 rings, what has driven Kobe to his 5, etc. If MJ felt that somone had challenged him (even if it was in his own mind) he would go after that person every chance he got. It didn't matter whether it was an exhibition game, a dunk contest, an all-star game, a meaningless game in the middle of the season or game 7 of the finals, he was going to make you pay over and over. As long as you kept coming back, he kept beating you down. He didn't care if you were a fellow superstar player or some scrub from the end of the bench, you'd get beatdown every time he got a chance. 

This was Kobe guarding Lebron one on one over the final 7 or 8 minutes of the game with millions watching. Regardless of what happened in the 2 regular season games, here was Kobe coming back and challenging him again and this time it was a much more direct challenge and with millions watching. I say more direct because the all-star game provides opportunities to go at each other one on one that the regular season doesn't. Believe me, if Lebron had shown that he was going to go after Kobe the way that Kobe was going after him, you would have seen the players on both sides become willing spectators just like the rest of us. It would have been like in grade school when the 2 toughest kids would finally fight (problem was, one of them didn't show up for the fight)!!

This provides a much clearer example of what Kobe did to Lebron last night!!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXpacD0SDh4]

This thread is pure comedy.

What's Kobe record vs Lebron in games that actually count in the nba standings?

I'm sure when the Lakers miss the playoffs while the Heat complete their Heatpeat you guys would be so proud of your lakers and Kobe Bryant because he stopped LBJ on 2 possessions in a meaningless AS game that nobody cares about at this moment except for Lakers fans and Skip Baseless

True, but it's about stepping up to every challenge. That is what drove MJ to his 6 rings, what has driven Kobe to his 5, etc. If MJ felt that somone had challenged him (even if it was in his own mind) he would go after that person every chance he got. It didn't matter whether it was an exhibition game, a dunk contest, an all-star game, a meaningless game in the middle of the season or game 7 of the finals, he was going to make you pay over and over. As long as you kept coming back, he kept beating you down. He didn't care if you were a fellow superstar player or some scrub from the end of the bench, you'd get beatdown every time he got a chance

And to my point, some (like L. James) feels that he doesn't need to keep on taking the challenges which maybe somewhat petty and childish.   Again, he doesn't need to prove it over and over again.

L. James layback attitude has gotten him one ring and maybe some more counting, so the jury can't be out until he finishes with his career.   Whether his (non)aggressiveness will get him more rings than K. Bryant or M. Jordan, we don't know yet.

As I said earlier, I'd not step back from the challenge but I've seen many who doesn't care about it.    L. James is not the first and won't be the last.

" if Lebron had shown that he was going to go after Kobe the way that Kobe was going after him, you would have seen the players on both sides become willing spectators just like the rest of us. It would have been like in grade school when the 2 toughest kids would finally fight (problem was, one of them didn't show up for the fight)!! ''


YAWN.

Like I said, Kobe has lead this Laker roster to unknown debts of underachieving.

What he apparently PLANNED to do during the last few minutes of a meaningless exhibition game was only an attempt to get people talking about him, with hopefully some type of postive spin. You fools are playing his game.
James wasn't interested.

The thing you don't seem to comprehend is that Kobe isn't the 2nd toughest kid anymore. Mr. Durant is, and James will be more then ready to 'fight' it out with him, in June, when it matters, if he is good enough to lead his team back there again.

"Trust him...James is James!  LOL!"

You're such a hypocrite. You have weekly wet dreams picturing James in a Laker uniform.

So how about that W/L prediction from here on in?

Playoffs or no playoffs?

Let's see if you can do better then that 11-5 month of January prediction (or were you prediciting in Hebrew).

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