Ya but if Georgetown and Louisville slip then that could be enough for Kansas State in that scenario. HEck it could simply be as much as neither winning the conference tournament.
Ya pretty much the only way the big east gets a 1 seed this year is if one of the top 3 or 4 in the league go on and win the tournament. That would push them over into a 1 seed.
"Ya but if Georgetown and Louisville slip then that could be enough for Kansas State in that scenario. HEck it could simply be as much as neither winning the conference tournament."
Kansas State needs a LOT more teams than that to go down to get a #1 seed. Indiana, Gonzaga, Duke, Kansas, Michigan, Michigan State, Miami, Georgetown, Arizona, Syracuse, Florida ALL have better resumes for a #1 seed than Kansas State. And while you listed out a very detailed possible scenario, you forgot to mention that all these other teams still have games as well, many against teams that would boost their own resumes with wins and that even if K-State wins out all the way through the Big 12 tourney, they still need the vast majority of the teams I listed to bomb out pretty bad.
While that is still technically possible, the odds are miniscule.
'Ya pretty much the only way the big east gets a 1 seed this year is if one of the top 3 or 4 in the league go on and win the tournament. That would push them over into a 1 seed. "
I think the only way the Big East gets a 31 seed is if Georgetown wins the Big East tourney. I don't think winning the Big East tourney would be enough to get Syracuse or Louisville all the way to a #1 seed. It depends greatly on who they have to beat in the tourney and how they finish the regular season. But Georgetown has by far the best shot at it in my opinion.
twocoach I did say it was a long shot but I don't think it's a s miniscule as you say. As for the Big East I think only Georgetown and Louisville really have a shot. It's probably too late for Syracuse.
There's a lot of teams between them and a #1 seed. I guess we'll see. Strange things happen every year it seems and this year has been one of the strangest in recent memory.
Of course I'm hoping Kansas State gets a 2 seed. I don't want us to lose and I want them to play us in the finals.... I'll admit I don't want to play Oklahoma State or Iowa State. If that happens they'll likely play themselves upto a 2, maybe 3.
"There's a lot of teams between them and a #1 seed. I guess we'll see. Strange things happen every year it seems and this year has been one of the strangest in recent memory. "
And right on cue, Michigan takes themselves off the #1 seed line by laying an egg at Penn State. Seriously, is this season the most bizarre you can remember?
I have wondered if flipping coins after the 1st round (and middle seeds in the first round) might prove better results than hand selecting every winner this tournament.
I'll throw the dart again. Not that I actually think it's going to happen, but New Mexico is closing in on the top 10, and if, and this season it's a big if. If NM wins out and is ranked say 6th or 7th, with an RPI of 3rd, they could, and I agree, that they have the weakest quality wins however you want to measure it, but Humans #6 Computers #3 smells like Possible #1 Seed area. Spliting is #4.5.
Isuppose Duke will get their back yard site again this year for their first two games . very unfair in my opinion . a lowly seeded team struggles to make the tournament then has to face duke on their ( you might say)home court. i don't believe theres any other team that gets this kind of deal . this happens year after year . i always did think Duke was favored among the press and other that made the decisions . this needs to stop .
"I suppose Duke will get their back yard site again this year for their first two games . very unfair in my opinion . a lowly seeded team struggles to make the tournament then has to face duke on their (you might say) home court."
Why is that unfair? You think the reward for being one of the top 4 teams in the country is to be shipped to a far away location to start the tourney? As it stands, the closest first round site to Duke is Philadelphia and that is where they are projected at this time. No gripes about Kansas getting first round games in Kansas City? Or Indiana in Dayton, OH?
The NCAA tries to give Top 4 seeds initial games as close to their campus as possible for two reasons:
1) as a reward for having such an excellent year and 2) because they typically have the largest fanbases that buy tickets to see the games.
The NCAA isn't going to put #1 seed Duke in Auburn Hills, Michigan. Michigan and Michigan State fans aren't going to buy tickets to go see them play and Duke fans won't travel that far. It would be stupid to do so.
"i always did think Duke was favored among the press and other that made the decisions . this needs to stop ."
ALLL top seeds get "favored placement. It is how it has always worked and it is good business and good television. I hate watching tourney games where there is no one in the stands cheering because no one in that area cares about the teams playing. BORING. You just notice this because there are good arenas to host tourney games right around Duke and because Duke is almost always a Top 4 seed.
Ya I'm hoping it'd pick up. If only we had games. I have nothing to do today so it's even worse. Plans fell through so I have about 4-5 hours of boredom.
I can go with Indiana....If Duke beats miami and gets kelly back at 100%, I can take them. Knasas would have to win everything all the way in to get a One. lets face it they got buried by TCU.... Gonzaga is a no. I'd love to be an 8-9 inthat bracket. Cakewalk.
I reaslly like the G'town team, but they too would need to make a sweep to the end to make it. I would not want to play them in the tourney at any point. I like Florida, but the competitioin has been weak. Both of these teams will be exceptional tourney teams....
Sparty could be there with a run in the B10 tourney. But in the end, I really want there to be some logic trail used other than Polls. Lets face it the more we have the comouters, the more the polls still control who is where. They have teams in te BP Ithat have more losses, worse SOS, and less wins against top 50, ranked above others that beat them with similar stats..... We have lost the bubble.
Speaking of bubble, I really would LOVE to see the play in game sbe big name schools. That would tunr the 1st round games into fantastic nights. Lets see UK and UNC....!!!!!
