He doesn't get any respect because Billy Volek performs better than Rivers in the playoffs. I'm not going to look it up, but I hope you didn't count one of Rivers' playoff wins when Volek led San Diego to the road win over Indy.
Well Rivers had a horrible coach his whole career for one. And people only care about team stats (superbowls). That's the biggest reason he doesn't get a lot of respect.
If you could take the last two seasons out of the equation (horrible coach, bottom 10 O-line, mostly no real receivers), and if you could focus on an entire 5 year span leading up to that, he's top 3.
But two reasons really, okay 3.
1: People only care about superbowls (which are pretty misleading) 2: People want to hate 3: People have short memories, and his last two years are his worst
In a nutshell, trust me, those 3 reasons are why he doesn't get a lot of respect.
RTTRUTH pretty much nailed it. As a Chargers fan who has seen him play he definitely has his fair share of turnovers and mistakes but I know that when he has a decent o-line, he looks elite out there. The fact that there is new management and some coaching changes will definitely help him get his groove back.
Also, I've found it quite hilarious as to how some love to label him as a "douche" because of his bantering and nagging attitude on the field. The fact is that he HATES to lose and he's a highly competitive player who likes to trash-talk. Off the field this guy is a very charitable and class act person. I just hope a new supporting cast can help the Chargers steer the ship in the right direction.
Respect is somthing you earn . After the last 2 year Rivers has not earned respect! If he play's this year like he has the last two years he will earn himself a clipboard on the side lines . Dan Fouts earned the Hall of Fame . Rivers is in no way as good as Fouts was at this Time. Rivers is a turn over machine he is second to Sanchez in the last two years. Rivers has turne over the ball way to much and way to much in the Red Zone!
1: People only care about superbowls (which are pretty misleading) 2: People want to hate 3: People have short memories, and his last two years are his worst well, the 2nd reason aside (every player has their haters), 1 and 3 are EXACTLY why Rivers doesnt get alot of respect. i think Rivers is really good and still can be great if he can get back to his old self, but like your reason 3 said, his last two years are his worst and they were. last year in particular was bruatal with turnovers. i remember what he did though which is why i am not quitting on him to being great.
Rivers got a lot of respect before the past 2 seasons. Yeah, he had his critics with his postseason failures, but he was still regarded as one of the elite QBs in the NFL.
I'd have a hard time putting him in the top half of the league anymore. He has become so reckless with the football that he is a turnover waiting to happen. He's got to get back to protecting the football AND address those postseason choking questions.
Scuba, I don't think Rivers got a lot of respect even two years ago. I have been on the threads for a while and I remember when people use to rank top ten qbs, very few considered him even top ten back then.
Look, we all know without a decent O-line how important that is, especially in the laat two years, look at what O-line Rivers has, in my opinion, that makes a qb try to do it too much on his own shoulders, hence, a lot of turnovers, etc.
Say what you want, but there are 18-20 teams who would trade their guy for Rivers this season and for the next 3-4 years. He's a proven QB who could have great success in the right situation. He's not Aaron Rodgers who can carry a team with a weak o-line, no RB threat, and a sieve defense that can't protect a lead late in games. If that's what people are expecting of Rivers, then they expect too much.
gopatriots, i think BEFORE his last 2 years, Rivers had respect. most had him ranked around 8-12 among QBs. for me, he was real high back then (i had him at 6). then his last 2 years happened and he dropped.
MW, I don't know, I mean I seem to remember many viewed him as someone who couldn't win a big game just like Romo even two years ago. I could see how you had him in the top ten back then since you're very objective.
Okay, so he had a good year last year when he threw 26TDs and 15 ints. Those aren't bad stats but if you look when he made those turnovers and not just ints but fumbles. He had 15 fumbles and lost 13 if my numbers are correct. So he had a total of 30 TOs the past year. I can play with numbers too.
Rivers has a total of 59 TO's the past 2 seasons. Very careless with the ball has a lot to do with his game the past 2 years. He is on a mediocre team and tries to do everything by himself. It also helped when he had 3 "6"5 WRs to lob the ball up to.
Rivers for example, has around a 94.5 overall qbr rating, how many qbs in the history of the NFL can surpass that? My guess, not a lot and even in his two down years last year, had a qbr rating of around 88, still pretty good.
bronc, so he needs good players around him to excel, what qb doesn't need good players to excel? Besides Brees, Brady, Peyton, and Rodgers, I would say every other qb needs very good players around to truly excel.
gopat, you just made my point about having players around him. Since you brought it up on your previous posts. Why is every QB measurable by QBR and passer rating, and completion %? Elways lifetime averages aren't as good as some of todays QB, but he is still one of the best to ever play. IMO passing ratings are very overrated and stats don't show the whole picture. Fantasy football messed up the whole method with which players are ranked and rated.
Let me put this in perspective, I think Luck is a good qb and will get even better, everyone was talking about what a great year he had last year, so here are his stats last year, 23 tds, 18 ints and qbr rating of 76.5. Now everyone is talking about how bad Rivers was last year, yet his stats are overall way better last year than Luck, just saying. To me, in my view, this seems to show whatever the reason is Rivers doesn't get a lot of respect. The reality is even last year, which was a bad year for river's standards, except for turnovers, his numbers were better than most qbs in the league.
