Flacco Signs!

The Ravens our our team now.  That said, we'll still stand by that it was wrong not to leave the team name in Baltimore, and the forward going NFL policy should be to leave team names and colors in the cities they're leaving.

If offered, would Bmore fans want the Colts name and colors back or is that old news at this point? My guess is too little too late as the Ravens have their own identity (and would be too confusing), but wondered what the fans thought. 

I know that personally, I would not want the Colts name and colors, but I was an infant when the Colts left. I've only ever known the Ravens and I couldn't imagine the name and colors changing at this point. Not after 2 Super Bowl championships. I suspect that this year's championship may have won over some of the older Colts fans who were hesitant to embrace the Ravens when they cam to town. Just a hunch though.

I know that personally, I would not want the Colts name and colors, but I was an infant when the Colts left. I've only ever known the Ravens and I couldn't imagine the name and colors changing at this point. Not after 2 Super Bowl championships

Pretty much this.  


  

the forward going NFL policy should be to leave team names and colors in the cities they're leaving.

I think the records and championships should be included in that as well. IMO the Colts have 1 championship, not 2. The people involved with the Colts now had nothing to do with the first Super Bowl, but Baltimore did. For the Indianapolis Colts to say they have 2 Super Bowl just feels wrong to me. Baltimore has 3, Indianapolis has 1. Just my opinion.

I think the records and championships should be included in that as well. IMO the Colts have 1 championship, not 2. The people involved with the Colts now had nothing to do with the first Super Bowl, but Baltimore did. For the Indianapolis Colts to say they have 2 Super Bowl just feels wrong to me. Baltimore has 3, Indianapolis has 1. Just my opinion.

That's how I think it should be handled. Obviously too late for Bmore. Too bad they won those pesky Super Bowls. Had they not, it's an easy transition to get the Colts name/colors back.
 

Too bad they won those pesky Super Bowls. Had they not, it's an easy transition to get the Colts name/colors back.

They could always transfer the two most recent SB wins to the Browns franchise if they really wanted the Colts name/colors back.

They could always transfer the two most recent SB wins to the Browns franchise if they really wanted the Colts name/colors back

Nah, too much confusion with the 2006 Colts championship and the 2012 Ravens championship.  Sure you could say that the Browns may have won the 2000 title pending they pretty much draft, coach, and hire the same way until that time, but then there's a big "what do we do" in regards to those other ones.

I think the whole city has accepted the Ravens as of now

They could always transfer the two most recent SB wins to the Browns franchise if they really wanted the Colts name/colors back

Nah, too much confusion with the 2006 Colts championship and the 2012 Ravens championship.  Sure you could say that the Browns may have won the 2000 title pending they pretty much draft, coach, and hire the same way until that time, but then there's a big "what do we do" in regards to those other ones.

I think the whole city has accepted the Ravens as of now

That's what I figured (too late to go back to the Colts). And, as mentioned, if they stayed in Cleveland I have no doubt they'd have screwed up those drafts.

And to think much of the mess is avoided if the NFL does what they should have and awarded Bmore a team instead of Jville, force Irsay to give the name back, and Modell sells to Al Lerner. 

I should have added they should leave the history behind as well (agreeing on championships, etc)

I know that personally, I would not want the Colts name and colors, but I was an infant when the Colts left. I've only ever known the Ravens and I couldn't imagine the name and colors changing at this point. Not after 2 Super Bowl championships

Pretty much this. 

The only thing that bothers me is when they attribute Baltimore football history, namely the Colts Giants SB that put the NFL on the map in many ways, to the Indianapolis Colts.

But like the above posts, I feel the same way, they left right before I was born I have no attachment to the Colts brand like my father, grandfathers did. And I grew up rooting for the Ravens. The part that bothers me is that had we not lost the team to Indy, I'd have grown up watching the Colts, becoming a local fan and rooting for the Colts because of my father, because it would have been tradition. It's a funny concept and I'm not explaining it that well, but they watch and get excited about Ravens football more due to my love of it than me of theirs, it'd be the other way around if their football team hadn't left.

I wish I had the experience that many Steelers, Giants, Packers fans have had where they grow up learning about how great their team is and they get to watch it with their family and get excited about this team that their family grew up rooting for and there is such good history. Instead I grew up hearing about our lost team, how great the Baltimore Colts were, and how horrible it is that it is all attributed to Indy.

I wish I had the experience that many Steelers, Giants, Packers fans have had where they grow up learning about how great their team is and they get to watch it with their family and get excited about this team that their family grew up rooting for and there is such good history. I

But you do have that!  The Ravens have won 2 Superbowls!  If that isn't history to give anyone than i don't know what is.  Maybe you don't have "that" history.   But your kids or nephews and nieces have a history to see right now.  It's awesome.  Think about it.




It sucks that Indy took the records but it could be worse.  Didn't the Titans take the Oilers records?  I don't know what would be worse.

Imagine that Indy changed the Colts name to the Titans.  As bad as it sounds to hear Manning breaking Colts records.  Imagine if they said that Manning is breaking the Titans record.  Like Unitas was an Indy Titan.


But let me get back on track.  Let me use some of your words:  We are at:


"I wish I had the experience that many have had where they grow up learning about how great their team is and they get to watch it with their family and get excited about this team that their family grew up rooting for and there is such good history. "

That's the Ravens. 

I wish I had the experience that many Steelers, Giants, Packers fans have had where they grow up learning about how great their team is and they get to watch it with their family and get excited about this team that their family grew up rooting for and there is such good history. I

That's the Ravens. 

I know I'm repeating myself.



But I think it's important.  Read that quote.  That's what we have.  We are living that experience right now.  I hope it comes with more championships.  But anyone growing up during this time has to see how well the Ravens have done through the last 5 years.  It's awesome.  Superbowl Champions.  History is now.

But I think it's important.  Read that quote.  That's what we have.  We are living that experience right now.  I hope it comes with more championships.  But anyone growing up during this time has to see how well the Ravens have done through the last 5 years.  It's awesome.  Superbowl Champions.  History is now.

I understand all that but it's not the point.

I didn't grow up hearing about how great the Ravens were. I didn't get to learn the history of the Ravens growing up. I get that we'll have that now.