Will The Giants Lose Victor Cruz?

Free agency starts Tuesday and there are rumors that several teams will make a run at Victor Cruz. In a weak free agent class as well as a less than stellar draft, a receiver like Cruz will be in high demand. The Giants are cash strapped and it seems like they are not too thrilled with what Cruz is asking for. There is also a rumor that they are interested in Danny Amendola, maybe bracing for Cruz to exit and there are a lot of teams that need a big time WR and will be willing to give up a late first round pick for him. What do you guys think?

Amendola is injury prone, Cruz will sign, man, just the endorsement money he has made since super bowl...will keep him here, and hes a local kid..

Less money is actually more money for Cruz.
 He is Jersey born.He lived minutes from the stadium,and the Giants were the ones to give him his chance.
Fans have dubbed him as one of their own because he is a native of NJ,and cuban and black community can relate to him.
 Through endorcements in commercials and events from Jersey and New York,there is no way he could make more money for any other team,except maybe the Jets (which wont happen) because most of us know Giant fans have always felt like the Jets were the NY team sharing Giant stadium, and the Giants are the true representative of New York and New Jersey.
 So i believe he would actually take a few million less because in the long run he will make a few million more by always representing the City, and NJ.
 He is on a team he knows, he has a relationship with both Eli and Hakeem. He wont take the chance to have to learn a new system and be on a team where he isnt the man any more.

You guys are overrating the New York endorsement point, because its not like that anymore because it doesn't matter where you are logistically in 2013. I agree that I want to keep him but if he is asking for the moon and the Giants decide to pass, I won't be heartbroken because remember, this team still has a ton of holes and Nicks and JPP are due for contracts and Randle is going to nasty.

 Fans have dubbed him as one of their own because he is a native of NJ,and cuban and black community can relate to him.

He's half Puerto Rican not cuban and as much as he is a local kid, money talks.

It's possible, but I believe that the Giants are going to see what the market is before breaking the bank to extend him. He's looking for a deal upwards of $9-11M per year and I doubt another team willing to pay that and lose a 1st. The Rams maybe willing to depart with one of their two 1st but paying his asking price may not happen. I don't want to lose him but I believe that a slot WR can be found on the roster with Jerrigan or resigning Hixon. No need to worry he won't be leaving unless some team over pays for his talent. He isn't a No.1 WR especially for a team that doesn't have a solid No.2 on the roster.

 

I don't want to lose him but I believe that a slot WR can be found on the roster with Jerrigan or resigning Hixon.

So you figure Hixon or JERNIGAN?? are capable of 1200-1500 yard receiving seasons like Cruz has had huh? I'll go find Jerry Reese and kick him square in his BBC if Corey Webster, Justin Suck and  Dave Diehl are in Giants uniforms next seasons and Cruz isn't. Cut half the team if you need to to pay this guy. When you've only got a few star players on the team to begin with you don't lose one and keep a bunch of garbage with the money instead!

If the Giants are stupid enough to let Cruz go, they will get what they deserve. I can't believe they would be and with the release of several veterans and the restructuring of other contracts it seems they are making room for Cruz.

Even if he was an elite WR, the Giants can't just give him the money he wants, and I feel the only position that should get that kind of money is the QB. Fitzgerald is one of the best WR's in the game, but has trash throwing to him and he doesn't look as good as Cruz... would you rather have Cruz's numbers then Fitzerald on our team? As much as Eli gets flack, him and Nicks help Cruz out a lot. As well as other WR threats... He goes to another team to be a number 1 he will be like Holmes, nothing much more then a 1000 yard WR. When you are "best" fit for slot, it is for a reason, to create mismatches, but it says the same when he is on the outside and the one the DB's want to shut down, the best corner all the time on him, safety help so on and so forth. Cruz doesn't deserve a ton of money, and he would make more money here through endorsements... and it isn't like making less then the top 5 WR's would be petty change. That kind of raise to him would be immense, if he wants to be paid like a top 3 WR let him walk. We will not win a Super Bowl with him paid like that, I will bet anyone here any kind of money. We won a Super Bowl with Eli as a top paid QB, we can still. You don't see these issues with Nicks and his contract. I'd rather have him, even though he isn't as durable, he is better and would probably take less money. It hasn't gotten to his head.

If the Giants are stupid enough to let Cruz go, they will get what they deserve. I can't believe they would be and with the release of several veterans and the restructuring of other contracts it seems they are making room for Cruz.

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Schmalzel, Cruz has proven that he can be successful as a wide receiver, not only with Eli throwing to him but as a #1 or slot receiver on another team. Nicks was injured pretty much the whole season and was not really a threat, so teams would treat Cruz as the #1 receiver. He still got a ton of receptions and over 1000 yards. 


He is for sure a top 10 receiver, but he isn't quite as elite as Megatron or others. He deserves top 10 money. I'm sure he'll get that but not much more. If he decides he has to go, it's a bad sign for the Giants. It means he would rather get more money than get victories and possibly another championship, which means he doesn't believe in the Giants ability to get back to the playoffs.

As much as Eli gets flack, him and Nicks help Cruz out a lot. As well as other WR threats... He goes to another team to be a number 1 he will be like Holmes, nothing much more then a 1000 yard WR. When you are "best" fit for slot, it is for a reason, to create mismatches, but it says the same when he is on the outside and the one the DB's want to shut down, the best corner all the time on him, safety help so on and so forth. Cruz doesn't deserve a ton of money, and he would make more money here through endorsements... and it isn't like making less then the top 5 WR's would be petty change. That kind of raise to him would be immense, if he wants to be paid like a top 3 WR let him walk.

Does this coming from Schmalzel surprise anyone? He Schmal, the sky is blue. Let me guess, gray/overcast where you are... you have some warped sense of thinking that is the exact opposite of what I ever say about anything. Who the hell cares what he would do on another team? What matters is what he does on this team, the defense and D Coordinator are sickening you don't start losing key pieces to the offense too!!

Cruz doesn't deserve a ton of money, and he would make more money here through endorsements..

Again, the New York endorsement arguement doesn't work anymore, Peyton Manning is in every commercial and he played in Indy and he is not taking less money to stay with the Giants. He is going to try to get as much as possible and if a team like the Texans which is a contender, big city and most important of all, no state tax or the Dolphins offer a large contract, he is going to sign it and leave the Giants with a major decision. I love him as much as anybody but its hard for me to imagine the Giants shelling out 10 million a piece over the next 2 years for Cruz and Nicks, especially with JPP right around the corner. The Giant passing game always survives. When Plax left everyone said he made Eli and the Giants were going to miss him and then there was Steve Smith and Mario. With a young stud like Reuben Randle, Nicks and whoever they bring in, I have confidence in Jerry Reese's ability to find someone in the draft or free agency. I think we can all agree that the Giants strength in the draft is getting receivers and defensive ends.

Amendola would be nice actually, although injury-prone, when healthy he's could be the excellent 3rd WR we need. Cruz is a restricted free agent so the Giants will either match any offer or get a first rounder from the team that signs him which is pretty high compensation. Doubt that happens.  Most likely we match the offer unless its just flat out "stoopid money."  I love the guy and I don't blame these guys for grabbing the $$ while they are in demand, but let another team be stupid. But if its reasonable I say match the offer and do a deal to keep him.

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I think the arguement can be, the player you named was Peyton Manning. He can play in Clevland and still make commercials. Cruz is no where popular outside of NY/NJ to be able to do that. On top of that if he wants to get paid like a top 3 WR let him walk. He couldn't carry this team, even in the playoffs when we won it all, that was Nicks. We make sure we take care of him first and I feel that Nicks won't ask for as much. Simply because Nicks seems like he wants to win. Cruz is letting his agent and his hype (mostly coming from the NY/NJ media) get to his head. Even though he hasn't been a bad guy or had bad publicity, he is starting to get the me first attitude and we don't need nor do we want a player like that, no matter how likeable the guy is. Believe me I would love to keep him, but at a 5-7 million per range (depending on bonuses) instead of a 7-10 million dollar range.. Believe it or not he can get paid by us, keep the endorsements and get more of them, win with us if he simply just doesn't want a larger NFL contract. His endorsements dissapear once he starts to play bad on a bad team... watch him go to Clev, see how he will get all the endorsements there on a 5 win team getting between 800-1000 yards and averaging 10-11 yards per reception and less and less TD's each year. They will drop like flies.... best bet for both parties he stays with us for just a little less, and thank GOD Ripped isn't the GM, or he'd give Cruz Fitzgerald type of money...

Victor Cruz is already an established star and personality. It doesn't matter where he goes, he will be given a boat load of endorsments because he is a cash cow for the latin market and he has his signature salsa dance. He is also a very likeable person which also factors in. The Madison Avenue factor is not as relevant anymore because of technology and growing markets around the country. 

 thank GOD Ripped isn't the GM, or he'd give Cruz Fitzgerald type of money...

Not quite but I'd make him happy. And Webster, Diehl and Suck would be on the unemployment line. Tell me the team wouldn't be better ...

I agree, Tuck Diehl and Webster need to go especially with their cap numbers, but my argument with Webster is that he should restructure his contract, if Rolle can get a free pass in fewells inept defensive scheme, why doesn't Webster? He looked great with Spags, while Rolle looked more flashy with the Cards then great. Believe me I like Rolles vocal leadership, I think he is the only guy on that defense that can say anything at all, let alone worthy while, but that isn't worth over 8 million a year. Diehl I feel his years are past him, and if we were to keep him (hopefull on a restructured deal) that he could teach an offensive lineman to be able to play multiple positions, it seems like an art that is coming back more often... and the more a younger offensive lineman knows how to the better. And as for Tuck, I think he is to beat up to be able to be real productive as a starter, if he was to come off the bench as a rotation guy and even fill in at DT like he did our first Super Bowl run, that would be ideal. The issue is with a lot of these players (like Cruz) is pride, they want theirs and they will take it on a losing team, and I don't blame them honestly, you need to do whats best for you for the long run. Average life span for a NFL player is not very long..

Cruz wont leave.  He may be able to get alot of money from a team like Cleveland, Minnesota, St Louis, or even Miami, but odds are he wont be nearly as good.  Look at the offense talent that has left this team since the 2007 super bowl, and look how they play once they leave:  

Shockey: Never played as well, constantly injured. Out of the league
Ward: 1,000 yard rusher for us. Leaves, Out of the league
Smith: 1,000 yard reciever, gets injured, floating around the legue doing nothing 
Boss: Solid TE who leaves, an is now the back up for KC. 
Manningham:  Goes to SF. Tears his ACL, but was on pace to do worse than previous seasons
Thomas: Special teams ace, goes to chicago, nds up retiring.  
Jacobs:  Productive RB who was used by us. Goes to SF and does nothing

These are just a few examples and i feel bad that it didnt end up well for some of these guys, but in all honesty the guys that leave the Giants end up missing the team more than the team misses them.  I didnt even want to get into how our former defensive players ended up.  Fact is if Victor Cruz leaves the Giants he will get a large contract and most likely be released before the end of it because these crappy teams will realize he cant do what he did for the Giants on their team
 

A wide reciever is only as good as the qb throwing to him.<br /><br /> Fitzgerald and Warner<br /><br /> Flaco and Boldin<br /><br /><br /> Brady and Welker<br /><br /> The point is if he goes to a crappy team for the money he could eventually loose money if he cant produce, because the qb sucks.<br /><br /> They will cut him and he will be looking for another team.<br /><br /> Its happened to many Players in the NFL.<br /><br /> <br />His best bet is to stay with Eli.<br /><br /> The Giants have won games and superbowls with just one dynamic WR in the past its alway been the defense and the run game thats held the giants together.<br /><br /> Eli has a way of making it easier for the recievers,i dont know how he does it with the chemistry but he has made alot of recievers look good, and tight ends.<br /><br /> Let me tell you Reuben Randall should have been a numer 1 pick last yr, but he fell in the draft mainly because of other needs and the Giants got lucky to get him.<br /><br /> Eli will make this kid look like a stud too, so really its up to Cruz.<br /><br /> He has to think about the pros and cons when the devil comes to hand him a large sum of money.    <br /><br /> We have more important needs then WR right now, it a money game with a cap.<br /><br /> Thats just the way it is.                         

You definitely have a better chance at bigger and better endorsement deals in New York.. The biggest market in the country.. It would be naive to think otherwise.. Yea Peyton Manning played in Indy but he might be the best qb to ever play the game and is easy to root for so he's an easy sell