B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 8:47 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post
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-marylands-travel

so kids, remember, location, location, location, cause if Maryland was a couple of states south or west, tough luck.

Oh, and remember everyone, Iron Horse loves all of you guys.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 8:51 pm

clip you need to see to believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRBoTcHOzOU

try me kids, see if I am all hyperbole, or if I am legit.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 8:53 pm

huh, 20-30 million in travel expenses
Doug72
SinceFeb 23, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 10:42 pm

The thread title in reality....

Maryland fans to B1G "We do not want to go.   Is there any way this can stop??"


The TERPS fans hate the idea.  
They are being forced to accept an unpopular move thanks to historically inept management.


I cannot fault the BIg 10.  It is smart for that league.
 
But, TERPS fans love the ACC.   
This is where they want to be......but they dont get a vote or any voice at all.  

The TERPS are the only team in this era of conference realignment who is entirely to blame themselves.
Maryland stands alone in that regard.

The ACC was a solid strong league with lots of tradition and very large TV money.  Maryland was a founding member as solid competitor.     
Much like the Stategovernment itself, decades of prosperity and strong leadership have been undermined by horrific fiscal responsibility and inane leadership in the last 10 years or so.

Maryland is essentially the Colorado of the East....but even more of a cautionary tale of failed leadershipp....
They are a team with such unbelievably inept financial leadership, they are literally looking for an actual cash bail-out.
The diffrence is that Colorado had spent 30 years actively trying to be a PAC-10 team.    

Maryland fans dont want any part of the Big 10.   They despise the move....and dread the ever approaching reality....

There is resigned acceptance of course.
Maryland fans will try their hardest to embrace it.
But the enthusiasm seems like a funeral parade.                     
HornsStampede
SinceOct 23, 2006
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 11:00 pm

yeah, they will cry until the money truck backs in...and then it's all good. Question, does Maryland crab cake have mayo in them? If so, I need to know, cause I cannot eat them, and you will have to substitute the crab cakes with something else. I will bring you some cheesecake in exchange. Of course you know, I am referring to when my Huskers visit Maryland. Also, could you drive me around to where the Wire was shot? Thanks.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 17, 2013 11:50 pm

yeah, they will cry until the money truck backs in
I think this is incredibly naive ... my business partner is a Terp and he hates this. He doesn't care about the money. He can't believe that they expect people like him to travel to Michigan, and Ohio, and Iowa for games. It's idiotic. He could care less about those teams. He grew up and went to school there and cares about the old rivalries. It isn't like one day he is all the sudden see that they get about 5 million more in conference $s and get excited about playing Iowa in Ames.
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 12:22 am

       I think this is incredibly naive ... my business partner is a Terp and he hates this



Your business partner is hardly the lone hater.

On the ground it runs about 95 % against the move.   Maybe 5% with some anti-Coach K ambivalence.   And 0% excitement.

TERPS fans are just stunned that the reality will soon set it.

Nobody blames the Big 10.   TERPS will do their best to be loyal new members of the Midwest.

The blame lies with the Terrapin management of the last 10 years who took a solid profitable program and ran it into irreversible financial ruin.

If you read and follow some of the staggeringly bad decisions, it becomes almost comical.  

No amount of money is going to suddenly fix the issues either.    It is a poor short-term bandaid that destroys 70 years of tradition.

Nebraska, Colorado, WVU, A&M, Utah, TCU, and even Missouri all embraced their moves.      

Maryland nation is really disgusted and depressed.....              

HornsStampede
SinceOct 23, 2006
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 12:38 am

All this says to me is that the ACC exit fee will end up being between 20-30mm  Laughing.
GoldRusher
SinceOct 4, 2010
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 12:50 am

As a Boise fan, I can understand the feeling, we were ambivalent about moving to the BE, the only reason we were interested was the extra money.  But when the BE imploded, it was a no-brainer to stay put.  but it sounds like the Terps aren't happy at all.  Frankly, competitively and geographically, the move is stupid, UM is a mid-range ACC team at best.  Basketball is a wash.  So it's all about the TV and media money, nothing more.

It is a crying shame how that the mighty Greenback is becoming the be-all and end-all to what used to be a sport.  Now football is pretty much a pro sport in every factor except that the NCAA still pretends otherwise, and the schools don't have to pay the players.

I got family in Baltimore, but I haven't talked to them about this.  Now I'm going to have to.
smiles_id
SinceDec 13, 2006
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 12:57 am

my business partner is a Terp and he hates this.

then tell your business partner to pony up 30 million dollars a year, and that way, the Terps stay put. Jim Delany has a song he sings every night, it is Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song, and he likes to croon out this little bit of the song especially; "We come from the land of the ice and snow, From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore, Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords."
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:01 am

I guess the moral of the story is this, next time, have people that know how to run an athletic program. But the silver linning, and actually there are many silver linning here for the Terps is this, it won't be too long before you see some more familiar faces...Smile  The B1G bus is traveling down I-20 pretty soon. Btw, this just goes to show one thing, the B1G has money to burn.

and the damn Maryland crab cake, do they have mayo, or not? I cannot eat mayo, well, I can eat it, but I hate it. So, if they have mayo, I need something else...I will bring you a cheesecake in return.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:05 am

All this says to me is that the ACC exit fee will end up being between 20-30mm  Laughing.

Mr Delany just said, how many forms of IDs do you need for this check I am about to hand out.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:30 am

then tell your business partner to pony up 30 million dollars a year, and that way, the Terps stay put. Jim Delany has a song he sings every night, it is Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song, and he likes to croon out this little bit of the song especially; "We come from the land of the ice and snow, From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore, Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords."
Obviously my partner doesn't have 30 million, and it isn't his responsibility to do so even if he did. The point I was contradicting was when you said that as soon as the money starts rolling in the fans will be singing a different tune. I'm telling you that won't happen. Over time newer fans will adjust to the B1G ... say in 2 decades or more, but if you think the old ACC guard are suddenly going to become B1G fans because they get a few more million per year to get beat down even worse than they used to, you are wrong. Your statement was patently incorrect, and your response a non sequiter. Focus and stay on subject.

Here is what I see from the B1G fans, especially it seems you ... you think that all these teams just can't wait to get absorbed by the B1G borg. You think that just because it is all about the money for the B1G that the ACC fan thinks the same way. I live in the heart of ACC territory, and I'm telling you it ain't so. We are already seeing WVu have some second thoughts, and now Maryland had to get a bunch of guaranteed travel money to make this happen. If anything, these stories are going to hopefully slow down additional expansion and let us settle into the 5 major conferences and leave it at that for a while.
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:40 am

LawDawg, if I could, believe me, if I could, I would have Nebraska play in simple, ol' Big 8. But it is too late now. I applaud Jim Delany for doing what he is doing, he sees what this has become, an all out arms war. Too bad school don't like it. You know, I took several jobs that I wasn't crazy about, but the money was too much for me to pass up on. At the end of it, was I happy I did it? Yes, cause kicking or screaming, at the end of the day, it is all about the money. All other conferences are doing it. And didn't the Big Ten for the longest time stayed at just 11 teams? Is a mad money grab, and I believe, Jimmy boy is going to be doing it better than anyone else. Just think about the fact that the B1G can pony up all that mula for the Terps to play, and they don't even bat an eyelash.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:41 am

And Dawg, remember, soon enough terps fans will be seeing familiar foes wearing the B1G logo.
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:41 am

All this says to me is that the ACC exit fee will end up being between 20-30mm
The problem for Maryland is that the ACC has every reason to take this all the way ... there will be no comprimise. While I am not of the opinion that the ACC is not at risk to get blown up as most B1G fans here would love to see, there is no doubt that the remaining schools that voted for this - all but maryland and FSU - will want this enforced to raise the barrier to exit. It would be great to be an attorney for the ACC on this ... you could easily get a couple of your kids paid for all the way through grad school on the fees this will generate.
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:48 am

And Dawg, remember, soon enough terps fans will be seeing familiar foes wearing the B1G logo.
If you are referring to Virginaia or UNC, I think you suffer from wishful thinking disease. As I've written here many times, the ACC is not going anywhere. And those teams will not leave unless the conference breaks up. The ACC is solid financially, and with the addition of Louisville, ND, Pitt and Syracuse (and eventually UConn), they will be the preeminent hoops conference. Their TV money will be plentiful. As for the Terps, you caught someone with the financial pants down and they had to agree to do something, notwithstanding the fact their fans didn't want it. Fortunately for sane college athletic fans in ACC and SEC country, the other teams you want aren't in that situation and will listen to the alumni who will tell them they don't want to be in the B1G.
So a better song for you would be Aerosmith's Dream On. :)
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:53 am

LawDawg, there is something coming down the pike, and when it hits, there won't be anything to stop it. Once Rutgers joins the B1G, and the BTN is on basic cable in NY. You watch, cause it might even end up being your beloved dawgs (I know, you think I am crazy, but it is close to 2 am, and I got a very sick daughter to take care, so this helps pass the time, although I do believe the B1G is going to be buying prime pieces of estates pretty soon) And could you ask your partner if Maryland crab cakes have mayo in them?
The Iron Horse
SinceMay 10, 2009
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 1:55 am

Too bad school don't like it. You know, I took several jobs that I wasn't crazy about, but the money was too much for me to pass up on. At the end of it, was I happy I did it? Yes, cause kicking or screaming, at the end of the day, it is all about the money.
You keep trying to prove your points with outliers. Not a good way to prove your point. Rutgers would have been stupid to do otherwise. They have no recent football tradition to speak of, and the B1G is a step up for them. And, they were in a conference that was imploding. No one could fault Rutgers. Maryland was broke. Someone threw money that them. You see, both are outliers and they are exceptions not the rule.

For most schools, it will be bad if the alumni don't like it, and the alumni are strong enough to not let this happen. Let me tell you ... if the UNC administratrion tried to cram this down the alumnis' throats, there would be hell to pay. Unlike Maryland and Rutgers, it isn't all about the money, and the money isn't all that bad anyway. So, you can dream on, but absent the ACC breaking up, which I don't see any idication of whatsoever, you won't see ACC teams going to the B1G, no matter how much they have a jones for them.
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008
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B1G to Maryland; "we really, really want you!"

March 18, 2013 2:00 am

LawDawg, there is something coming down the pike, and when it hits, there won't be anything to stop it. Once Rutgers joins the B1G, and the BTN is on basic cable in NY. You watch, cause it might even end up being your beloved dawgs (I know, you think I am crazy, but it is close to 2 am, and I got a very sick daughter to take care, so this helps pass the time, although I do believe the B1G is going to be buying prime pieces of estates pretty soon) And could you ask your partner if Maryland crab cakes have mayo in them?

1. Provide me a single legitimate site for your assertion. Just one. You can't. Just stuff you B1G guys make up and repeat here on sports boards.

2. If you think the Dawgs would leave the SEC for the B1G then I think you are sick and your daughter is taking care of you. The Dawgs aren't going anywhere. Unlike Maryland, us UGa alumns have spines, money and influence ... we'd run every one of those bastards out of the state if they tried that.

Good ones don't have much, but they have some. If they have too much mayo, or even worse too much bread crumbs, my partner will turn his nose up at them. Crab cakes should be mostly crab.
LawDawg86
SinceAug 5, 2008