Pac-12 Will Dominate College Football in 2012

wildcatsfan1 once again shows his inferiority complex towards the Pac-12.

Name five teams that will be ranked. PLEASE DO.

I'll grant USC, Oregon, Stanford and I'll even throw a bone to one of Utah or Washington (but not both).

So give me five teams or else as much as you hate it, you'll agree with my stance on four teams max.

I'll grant USC, Oregon, Stanford and I'll even throw a bone to one of Utah or Washington (but not both).

I think that both Utah and Washington COULD end up ranked. However, Washington will have a much tougher time than Utah because of their schedule. Washington plays @LSU, Stanford, @Oregon and USC. They also play Utah towards the end of the season. The Stanford, Oregon and USC games all come in consecutive weeks too. That will likely be too tough a stretch for them. Utah, could very well go 10-2 or 11-1 with the schedule they have as the only top 3 PAC team that they play is USC!!

It's possible that Washington could be a top 25 caliber team, but not have the record to back it up considering their schedule.

You haven't answered my how did you get an inferiority complex towards the Pac-12? Because the conference won't have 9 teams ranked in the top 25, because the Pac-12 is set up at a disadvantage to get as many teams in bowls, it makes it weak? Going into the season where noone knows how WSU, Oregon State, Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State or Colorado are even going to be you can write off the entire conference. You really should try your luck at Vegas if you think you have a clue.

You haven't answered my how did you get an inferiority complex towards the Pac-12?

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If I develop an inferiority complex then I'll ask myself. At this time I'm simply stating facts you have no rebuttal for an so "of course" I must have a jealousy of a conference that my basketball team I root for plays in. Makes a ton of sense.

Don't like what I say about the PAC-12...get better.

Because the conference won't have 9 teams ranked in the top 25, because the Pac-12 is set up at a disadvantage to get as many teams in bowls, it makes it weak?

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The PAC-12 won't have more than three ranked teams at year's end most likely. Why are you mentioning nine? Shouldn't you hope for five before we get that far ahead of ourselves?
The Big 12 is set up the same as the PAC-12 and was ranked higher by all computers last year and had more teams ranked at year's end.

Why are you pointing out "it's not set up for depth" when another league with the same conference schedule make up proved your words wrong.

Going into the season where noone knows how WSU, Oregon State, Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State or Colorado are even going to be you can write off the entire conference.

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When I'm confident I'm confident. Again, will you predict five ranked teams at year's end? If not then just say "yes Wildcatsfan, I agree."

You really should try your luck at Vegas if you think you have a clue.

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Profited against the line last year on the six biggest games of each week plus fifteen bowl games. All evidence is on the website.

Also nailed 56 of the 70 bowl teams last year (57 if Miami didn't take a bowl ban), nailed Alabama as a national champ, hit half the BCS teams preseason, and had Virginia bowling preseason which I didn't see more than 1-2 major websites/publications have.

Yea, my track record speaks for itself.

The main reason that i stick with my guns on my saying is simple. There is so much new blood in the conference that yes your right it is hard and almost impossible to predict. I disagree with you in the fact that you should just write of the conference basically because of that. I just think that with all of the new additions to the schools and new idea programs philosophy and so on the chance for change is greater. It was easy to predict the Pac last year with most teams because there wasnt really any major additions or subtractions. Everyone knew what was coming from each team except USC. Not many predicted the way they finished last year. I think this is the year when you throw all your formulas out for the Pac. Too unpredictable.

If I develop an inferiority complex then I'll ask myself. At this time I'm simply stating facts you have no rebuttal for an so "of course" I must have a jealousy of a conference that my basketball team I root for plays in. Makes a ton of sense.

Don't like what I say about the PAC-12...get better.

An inferiority complex is someone who always bashes on something they are jealous of...correct? You are jealous of a conference that you have to knock it down when you know nothing about it.

The PAC-12 won't have more than three ranked teams at year's end most likely. Why are you mentioning nine? Shouldn't you hope for five before we get that far ahead of ourselves?
The Big 12 is set up the same as the PAC-12 and was ranked higher by all computers last year and had more teams ranked at year's end.

Again, it is easier to get more teams ranked when you don't play road OOC games and you play 8 IC games. But again you avoid that complete argument because of jealousy. What are you talking about depth? No other conference plays a schedule like the Pac-12 does and the bottom of the Pac-12 is better than the bottom of any other conference if you want to say depth. Pretty sure noone is arguing that the middle of the Pac-12 equals the middle of the SEC.

When I'm confident I'm confident. Again, will you predict five ranked teams at year's end? If not then just say "yes Wildcatsfan, I agree."

You're not confident, you're insecure. I'm confident 6 teams from the conference will be ranked throughout the year, but I truly have no clue because I don't have an inferiority complex that I will go through every teams schedule especially when 1/4 of the teams noone knows who is going to contribute because of the new regime's.

Profited against the line last year on the six biggest games of each week plus fifteen bowl games. All evidence is on the website.

Also nailed 56 of the 70 bowl teams last year (57 if Miami didn't take a bowl ban), nailed Alabama as a national champ, hit half the BCS teams preseason, and had Virginia bowling preseason which I didn't see more than 1-2 major websites/publications have.

Yea, my track record speaks for itself.

Link you're Vegas ticket then. And picking the preseason BCS teams isn't exactly going out of a ledge there when it was all chalk.

Hey Tall Tiger
In no way am i talking trash but I am simply asking. Do you still stand as strongly behind LSU this year now that the Honey Badger is gone? Yes they are still loaded but he was by far their biggest playmaker no matter where he was onthe field. Its scary that this may have just opened the door for Bama and now maybe GA to take that number two spot? Just wondering what your thinking about that? 

An inferiority complex is someone who always bashes on something they are jealous of...correct? You are jealous of a conference that you have to knock it down when you know nothing about it.

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I guess what I'm asking then is what would I be jealous of? The PAC-12 hasn't won a clean national championship game since the BCS began.

Again, define "know nothing about". It's quite clear from your lack of rebuttal to anything I've said you don't know much.

Again, it is easier to get more teams ranked when you don't play road OOC games and you play 8 IC games.

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What's next? Green uniforms? Big 12 played 9 conference games. They have a tougher 1-10 than the PAC-12's 1-12. They had more ranked teams. Based on the PAC-12's bowl performance, you should be grateful they don't have more OOC games.

But again you avoid that complete argument because of jealousy.

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When you can give me one reason to be jealous of the PAC-12 I'll respond to it. Wazzu hasn't contributed to the PAC-12 in years so I don't know why you're even boasting.

No other conference plays a schedule like the Pac-12 does and the bottom of the Pac-12 is better than the bottom of any other conference if you want to say depth.

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Smh...once again, the Big 12 plays 9 conference games. The fact they play EVERYONE instead of select teams makes their conference more difficult. Yet they still finished better last year. Do you watch college football?

and the bottom of the Pac-12 is better than the bottom of any other conference if you want to say depth. Pretty sure noone is arguing that the middle of the Pac-12 equals the middle of the SEC.

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O yea all those 4 win PAC-12 teams last year were great.

You're not confident, you're insecure.

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If I'm not confident put a bet on the line.

m confident 6 teams from the conference will be ranked throughout the year, but I truly have no clue because I don't have an inferiority complex that I will go through every teams schedule especially when 1/4 of the teams noone knows who is going to contribute because of the new regime's.

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Hahahahaha. NAME THEM PLEASE. If you had any balls you'd make a prediciton and stick with it.

Again, as I said to Iron Breaker. Feel free to post your predictions on anyone of my prediction threads when they come out. We'll tally at year's end.

Link you're Vegas ticket then.

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All evidence on the website. Week after week. As I figured you can't handle factual evidence.

And picking the preseason BCS teams isn't exactly going out of a ledge there when it was all chalk.

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Chalk? Oklahoma St., Clemson, Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia Tech all disagree it was chalk.

Man...I'm really wondering if you follow anything outside the PAC-12. Your knowledge says otherwise.

I guess what I'm asking then is what would I be jealous of? The PAC-12 hasn't won a clean national championship game since the BCS began.

Again, define "know nothing about". It's quite clear from your lack of rebuttal to anything I've said you don't know much

Simple psychology, you rag on a conference you, again no nothing about, constantly with no facts except opinions. I've "rebuttled" every single argument you have thrown out

What's next? Green uniforms? Big 12 played 9 conference games. They have a tougher 1-10 than the PAC-12's 1-12. They had more ranked teams. Based on the PAC-12's bowl performance, you should be grateful they don't have more OOC games.

The Big 12 sure did play 9 conference games, they had 2 1/2 good teams..hmm sound familiar? And they done it one season, which kind of goes against every argument you have made that the Pac-12 is weak because of the "BCS era" Right, that's why the Big 12's best team destroyed the 3rd best team in the Pac-12 right?

When you can give me one reason to be jealous of the PAC-12 I'll respond to it. Wazzu hasn't contributed to the PAC-12 in years so I don't know why you're even boasting.

I have no clue what you're jealous of, I'm not your counselor. Yes WSU hasn't "contributed" to the Pac-12 in football in awhile but at least WSU is a "bottom feeder" who has contributed to the conference in this same era you are ripping on the conference. Just wondering when Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss State and Kentucky have been in a BCS bowl, or Indiana, NW, Minnesota or Iowa State, Baylor, name every conference and there are bottom feeders, except in the Pac-12 every team has been competitive even when SC was the cream of the crop of the college football landscape.

O yea all those 4 win PAC-12 teams last year were great.

All certainly would've beaten any other conference "bottom feeder's"

Hahahahaha. NAME THEM PLEASE. If you had any balls you'd make a prediciton and stick with it.

Again, as I said to Iron Breaker. Feel free to post your predictions on anyone of my prediction threads when they come out. We'll tally at year's end.


Oregon, Stanford, UW, SC, Utah and there will be at least 1 more throughout the season. Didn't realize in order to "have balls" you have to make a prediction about something as I said I know nothing about the Arizona schools, Colorado or UCLA. I think you mean be a tool and rip on something again you have no clue about. Please right now tell me who the 8 WR's are WSU is going to use, who is going to win the punting battle, who is the starting running back going to be, who is going to be the starting defensive lineman, who is going to start at safety? There is a difference between an educated prediction and an envious prediction.

Chalk? Oklahoma St., Clemson, Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia Tech all disagree it was chalk.

Last year, yes. Okie State was in a dead heat with Oklahoma for the Big 12 title, Wisconsin was in the B1G, Va Tech was in the ACC and Clemson was right there as well. It was not going out on a limb.

I truly am curious as to what you envy so much about the Pac-12, since you have such opinions, not facts. A BCS title, an a poll does not equate a fact.

What will everyone say when Michigan beats Bama in two weeks?

Simple psychology, you rag on a conference you, again no nothing about, constantly with no facts except opinions. I've "rebuttled" every single argument you have thrown out

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So when you said the PAC-12's lack of quality records was because of the 9-game conference schedule and I said the Big 12 also played 9 conference games, had more ranked teams, more bowl teams, and a better bowl record, that was all opinion?

You havent refuted anything. You've simply yelled "JEALOUS" at the top of your lungs instead. That's why you've yet to explain why the PAC-12 couldn't do what the Big 12 did with the same number of conference games.

The Big 12 sure did play 9 conference games, they had 2 1/2 good teams..hmm sound familiar?

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HAHAHA. 2.5 good teams. Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas St, Baylor. Which one of those wasn't "good" or even a full "good"?

And they done it one season, which kind of goes against every argument you have made that the Pac-12 is weak because of the "BCS era"

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Show me where I once said the PAC-12 was weak for the entire BCS era. I said they were weak now, last year, and the year before. Stanford was also the 2nd best team in the PAC-12. Please share any argument that says otherwise.

I have no clue what you're jealous of, I'm not your counselor.

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Ok then we don't have to worry about that comical stance anymore.

All certainly would've beaten any other conference "bottom feeder's"

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Nothing to support that but sure, roll with it.

Oregon, Stanford, UW, SC, Utah and there will be at least 1 more throughout the season.

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What are you talking here? 1 week? Awesome. Mississippi St. was ranked at a couple points last year. Woopdie-doo. How many teams from the PAC-12 will be ranked at YEAR'S END?

Didn't realize in order to "have balls" you have to make a prediction about something as I said I know nothing about the Arizona schools, Colorado or UCLA.

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Then you should leave the debating to people who are informed on the schools being discussed.

Please right now tell me who the 8 WR's are WSU is going to use, who is going to win the punting battle, who is the starting running back going to be, who is going to be the starting defensive lineman, who is going to start at safety? There is a difference between an educated prediction and an envious prediction.

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I've done more than enough homework on all leagues and teams I'll project. You can go to Ten Teams On The Rise on Part 1 of my offseason preview if you want my thoughts on Wazzu.

Any prediction I make will be backed with 300-400 words of information I'm using to base a prediciton on.

Last year, yes. Okie State was in a dead heat with Oklahoma for the Big 12 title, Wisconsin was in the B1G, Va Tech was in the ACC and Clemson was right there as well. It was not going out on a limb.

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And before the season, few if any had Clemson or Oklahoma St in BCS games. FSU was the ACC favorite and Nebraska a co-favorite with Wisconsin.

Do you know what chalk means? Because it doesn't appear you do.

I truly am curious as to what you envy so much about the Pac-12, since you have such opinions, not facts. A BCS title, an a poll does not equate a fact.

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No but the bowls, ranked teams, etc. are facts.

When you come up with some to support why the PAC-12 coming into 2012 isn't a subpar BCS league 1-12, let me know.

Me: The PAC-12 will max out at four, MAYBE ranked teams. 

Dumb PAC-12 Fan:  Oregon, Stanford, UW, SC, Utah and there will be at least 1 more throughout the season.

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But I shouldn't put it all on one guy. Ironbreaker made the dumb claim too. 

You'll get four ranked teams max at year's end.

JUST AS I TOLD YOU MONTHS AGO.

Why any of you fools thought it would be more amazes me.

And that's IF Stanford hangs on. Might take an upset of Oregon State at this point because a loss to Oregon is a guarantee so 4 loss Stanford staying in the poll?

That's questionable.

There's a couple really good teams and then rest is mediocre.

No idea why anyone expected different.  

There's a couple really good teams and then rest is mediocre. 

No idea why anyone expected different.  

Sounds like just about any other comference

No Big 12 and SEC have more than a couple really good teams. 

Ark is poised to fall apart without their coach.

LOL nice call on that one dude!

Anyone still think PAC-12 finishes with five ranked teams?