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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 3, 2012 9:54 am
3/4 Weeden check in The one thing I saw yesterday that I have not seen much of from Weeden was toughness. He stood in the pocket, delievered the ball and took the hit. He got knocked around pretty good yesterday. Earlier in the season it was chuck and duck, avoid the hit and live to play another down. He is playing much better, and most importantly, tougher... |
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 10:36 am
By [Fred Greetham] OBR Senior Browns Reporter
Posted Dec 3, 2012 Browns rookie wide receiver Josh Gordon is only 21, but he had a break-out performance Sunday against the Raiders. [0 Comments] BEREA — The youngest player on the [Cleveland Browns] might be the team’s biggest playmaker. [Josh Gordon] celebrated his 21st birthday in April. Since then, Gordon’s life has been a whirlwind. After sitting out a season of college football last [Utah] for transferring from [Baylor], he was contemplating to play college football again or enter the NFL Supplemental Draft. He chose the latter and the Browns selected him in the second-round of the Supplemental Draft just before [training] camp began in July. The Browns forfeited their second-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft to obtain him this year. Many felt it was a big gamble, especially since Gordon had been in trouble for off-field issues. “For being out of football for a year and coming to the NFL it was a huge difference for me,” Gordon said. “I feel I’m where I’m supposed to be and I’m looking forward to the rest of this year and next year.” However, the move has been paying dividends thus far for the Browns. On Sunday, Gordon had his biggest [game] thus far in the NFL as he caught six passes for 116 yards, including a 44-yard touchdown pass in the second quarter. Gordon already leads all the NFL in receiving yardage among rookie receivers. He has more receptions over 20 yards than any player on the Browns and is one of the highest in the NFL. On the season, Gordon has 34 receptions for 646 yards (19.0 avg.), including five touchdowns. Gordon is 19<sup> th</sup> , overall, in yardage among AFC receivers and is the leading rookie in that department. He is just one reception behind [Greg Little], who has 35 receptions for 408 yards and two touchdowns. Pat Shurmur likes the progress that Gordon has made. “He’s big, he’s fast and he can catch,” Shurmur said. “Let’s assume he was born with that, but the rest has to be developed.” Shurmur said Gordon has been learning on the fly since he arrived because he didn’t have the benefit of the OTAs and the off-season program. “I think it’s all running parallel for him,” Shurmur said. “He came here not in shape. Not knowing the offense, the quarterback and not knowing what a real grind this is for a player that wants to make an impact. Gordon made some plays early in the season that displayed his big play ability, but a big drop in the end zone on a potential game-winning touchdown against the Colts was one fans remember. However, Gordon didn’t let it faze him and hasn’t had a documented dropped ball since. “When you have a situation (drop) like that, you can’t let it linger too long,” Gordon said. “You can’t dwell on things in the past or it will affect you. I just try to move on.” Shurmur said Gordon works very hard to [continue] to improve. “I think every field opportunity he has had in practice, he is working to try and improve,” Shurmur said. “Time will tell but I’m impressed with the way he has played. When you get a guy who can get to the end zone, it makes defense wonder how to stop him.” Shurmur said the way he stretches the field cannot be understated. “With him, he kept working and it’s important to have guys who can make plays in chunks,” Shurmur said. “I don’t think we’ve had too many guys around here (in the past) that could do that.” Gordon says he and Little complement each other well. “I think defenses are worried about me going over the top, so they leave the middle open,” he said. “It allows opens up the field for us.” Gordon is excited the direction the Browns are heading and thinks the future is bright. “I think our future is bright here in Cleveland,” he said. “We have a lot of young guys and have some veterans to show us the ropes, but I feel we have a lot to look forward to.” Notebook The Future: Shurmur said that he thinks the Browns have a bright future. However, he wouldn’t talk about his future that could be linked to the last four games. “I believe this is the foundation of something that can be pretty good,” he said. “As far as me personally, what more can they say about me? That’s where the thick skin comes in. “I’m excited about where we’re going,” Shurmur said. “The (team) understands the message and mentally and physically going over and over can be tiring.” Recently, Jimmy Haslam said that he feels the Browns are heading in the right direction and Shurmur was asked if he felt that was a positive. However, he said his focus is playing the Chiefs. “It’s always good to hear good things,” he said. “I do know this and what’s important for me-- and it’s narrow minded-- but that is the next game. That’s what I can control.” Big Drive: The Browns haven’t had as big a drive as they did when they marched 94 yards and consumed 6:04 to play in the fourth quarter to take a 20-10 lead with 3:27 to play. “The last 94 yards drive was great,” Shurmur said. “Brandon was 5-of-6 and that was an important thing. I’m happy our guys found a way to win. For the way to find a win, our guys found a way. The challenge now is to get back to the process.” Shurmur thinks the young offense can build on that drive. “Anytime you do something once then you become confident to do it again,” he said. “You get beyond it by doing it. Hopefully, we can repeat it as we go on.” Shurmur was asked if he felt the Browns have turned the corner. “I don’t know about turning the corner but what I do know is we beat a quality opponent last week at home and another good opponent on the road,” he said. “When you’re working with young players. I think they grew up a bit. We’re growing. We’re growing.” Weeden Improves: Shurmur said that he continues to see QB [Brandon Weeden] improve. “I think he made some strides yesterday,” he said. “He made some good throws on third down with people in his face and taking shots.” On the season, Weeden is 247-of-433 for 2,820 yards. He has completed 57 percent of his passes and has 13 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. His rating is 72.3. He is tied with rookie [Ryan Tannehill] in rating. Weeden has also thrown for three 300-yard games. By the Numbers: The Browns are 27<sup> th</sup> in offense (25<sup> th</sup> rush, 20 pass), while they are 23<sup> rd</sup> in defense (17<sup> th</sup> rush, 23<sup> rd</sup> pass). Sheldon Play: CB [Sheldon Brown] had several big plays for the Browns against the Raiders. None were more important that an interception of QB [Carson Palmer] when the Raiders were driving to either tie or take the lead. The Browns drove 94 yards for a touchdown to seal the win after the interception. “Sheldon, for the most part played extremely well,” Shurmur said. “When you limit scoring in the meat of the game, that’s the most important thing. “He’s made impact plays for us,” he said. “He gets opportunities and has made three interceptions and all have resulted in points for us. He’s kind of a steady guy, what you tend to get from a veteran player. Behind all that, Sheldon is a true pro.” |
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 1:28 pm
NFL Road Tested: The Cleveland Browns If you guys haven't seen it, i recomend checking it out. I put my duties as a husband on hold to check it out and i wasn't upset (the wife was). Its queued up on the DVR now!! |
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 2:30 pm
NFL Road Tested was great . good to see what goes on behind the scenes .
Kosar made those peoples day that lost there son serving our country .my DVR is set to record the whole series |
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 5:14 pm
If anyone noticed that Weeden was weaing a Cavs shirt at the Cavs game, they should also know that it was made by GV Art and Design...they have some pretty sweet cleveland gear along with art work and other things....check em out at [www.gvartwork.com]
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 7:02 pm
Browns fans as a long time Chiefs fan, got to ask you, when Brady Quinn got drafted by u guys do u think he got a legit shot at being the qb long term, or was the offense so bad that quinn never got a decent shot to see what he can do. Did quinn have enough good players on offense to be able to evaluate his talent as a starting qb with the browns or nfl for that matter.
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 11:17 pm
Browns fans as a long time Chiefs fan, got to ask you, when Brady Quinn got drafted by u guys do u think he got a legit shot at being the qb long term, or was the offense so bad that quinn never got a decent shot to see what he can do. Did quinn have enough good players on offense to be able to evaluate his talent as a starting qb with the browns or nfl for that matter. Where's SAS or SirCheeks when you need them?
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 5, 2012 11:22 pm
he got a legit shot at being the qb long term, or was the offense so bad that quinn never got a decent shot to see what he can do
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,December 6, 2012 9:50 am
By [Fred Greetham] OBR Senior Browns Reporter
Posted Dec 5, 2012 Of the numerous subplots to Sunday's game, perhaps the biggest is former Browns No. 22 overall draft pick, quarterback Brady Quinn vs. current Browns No. 22 overall draft pick, quarterback Brandon Weeden. [9 Comments] BEREA — This week’s matchup has a lot of subplots to it, but one of the more interesting is two of the Browns No. 1 draft choices in the last five years will face one another. [Brandon Weeden] was selected with the Brown’s 22<sup> nd</sup> overall pick in 2012. [Brady Quinn] was selected with the Browns’ 22<sup> nd</sup> overall pick in 2007. Weeden has thrown more passes in his rookie season than Quinn did in his three years with the Browns. During his career in Cleveland, Quinn threw 353 passes with 10 touchdowns and nine interceptions. The only year he played significantly was in 2009 when he was 136-of-256 for 1,339 yards with eight touchdowns and seven interceptions. His rating was 67.2. Quinn threw just eight passes his rookie year as [Derek Anderson] was having a Pro Bowl season and then was 45-of-89 for 518 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions in 2008. Contrast that to Weeden, who is 247-of-433 for 2,820 yards (57 pct.) with 13 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. His rating is 72.3. Quinn, who grew up in Columbus a Browns fan thought his dreams had come true when Phil Savage engineered a draft [day trade] to select Quinn with the team’s second first-round draft choice. “Things never go how you expect them to go in life,” Quinn said. “I learned my NFL career can’t take more than one day at a time.” Quinn, 28, is in his sixth NFL season. Weeden, 29, is in his first. “In Cleveland, we had a couple of rough seasons,” he said. “It definitely feels likes it’s been a long time. You can look at it two ways. I feel blessed. I loved the guys there, the fans and had such a wonderful time, that’s why I was shocked when I got the call that I was traded.” In one of the first moves when Mike Holmgren came in was to trade Quinn to the Broncos, ironically, for [Peyton Hillis] and draft choices. Quinn was asked why he thought things didn’t work out with the Browns. “That’s not for me to decide,” he said. “I wish there had been more stability when I was there. I look back and there are only six or seven (players) that were there then just three years ago.” A holdout aborted his [opportunity] to play in 2007 as Anderson seized the opportunity and had a career year. Crennel was fired after the 2008 season and Eric Mangini became the coach. “He came in and competed the first year for (the starting job) and then got hurt,” Crennel said. “He didn’t get much time as the quarterback and the next staff came in and moved him to Denver.” After sitting for the majority of his two seasons in Denver behind [Kyle Orton] and [Tim Tebow], Quinn re-united with Crennel as an unrestricted free agent in 2012. Quinn was the backup to [Matt Cassel] the first five games, but took over when Cassel suffered a concussion. He started two games and then suffered a concussion himself. After missing two games, Quinn returned and started the last two weeks. Last week, against the Panthers Quinn was 19-of-23 (82.6 pct.) for 201 yards with two touchdowns. His rating was 132.1 and the [completion] percentage is the highest single game completion percentage in Chief’s history. For the season, Quinn is 67-of-106 for 635 yards (63.2 pct.) with two touchdowns and four interceptions. His rating is 70.3. Pat Shurmur was impressed with Quinn’s game against the Panthers. “I think he had an outstanding game last week,” he said. “He lead his team to victory. He’s a big guy and he uses his legs. He played a good game last week.” Crennel is getting what he was hoping to from Quinn. “Brady has been very level-headed since I had him in Cleveland,” Crennel said. “He’s a born leader and has displayed that leadership. “He did a nice job and has done a good job managing the game,” Crennel said. “We didn’t turn the ball over and we were able to put points on the board.” Former [Notre Dame] coach and Chiefs offensive coordinator [Charlie Weis] lobbied for the Browns to draft Quinn. “We’re looking for consistency and Charlie still feels that way (about him).” Shurmur said it speaks to Quinn’s character that he has persevered through a rocky NFL career thus far. “I think what happens comes from the individual to go and work and prepare yourself to play and when you get the opportunity to go play, you do well,” he said. “I think the player tends to motivate himself.” Quinn is trying to seize the opportunity to be the long-term starter for the Chiefs. “I look at the opportunity to start as an opportunity to start and I want to make the most of it.” He said he’s learned from his experiences with the Browns, Broncos and now the Chiefs. “Any time you have more experience and game experience you will be more comfortable,” he said. “I’ve been through some many systems, coaching changes and I think I’ve done a good job adjusting. Any time I did get to play, I got better.” Browns fans wish Quinn success, but not Sunday. Notebook Grieving Chiefs Prepare: The Chiefs won an emotional game last week over the Panthers just a day after LB Javon Belcher murdered his girlfriend and then shot himself in front of coach [Romeo Crennel] at the Chiefs practice facility. Crennel was given a lot of credit for his calming influence in a tough situation. “It was huge,” Quinn said. “He was the steady rock in the midst of everything. I think situations like this show why God puts people in (certain) places.” Crennel admitted it has been very difficult for him personally. “You can’t get away from it,” Crennel said. “But in the business that we’re in, you have to move on. That’s how life is and you have to deal with things.” Quinn said the team went through an entire range of emotions. “It was extremely difficult shocking at first and sadness for the entire situation,” he said. “As friends teammates, it puts things in perspective. I don’t know if there’s a way to sum it up, but there was a lot of soul-searching and praying.” Quinn was asked how the team was able to go out and play. “We just had to focus and do the best can in the game,” he said. “I think the team understands what it has to do and that’s to do our jobs.” Shurmur was impressed with the way Crennel has handled the situation. “I respect him a great deal and he has accomplished a great deal,” Shurmur said. “In situations like this your character gets revealed. “A lot of what we do as coaches is to lead and inspire and lead guys through situations that are not always ideal. There are always tough days and how do you inspire your guys to push through tough days.” Captain Mitchell: Rookie OL [Mitchell Schwartz] was selected to be the fourth captain for the week. “He’s another good choice,” Shurmur said. “When you go through our starting lineup we have a lot of rookies and (the captains) chose wisely.” Peyton’s Place: Former Browns RB Peyton Hillis signed with the Chiefs as an unrestricted free agent after having a less than stellar season in 2011 with the Browns. In 2010, Hillis rushed for over 1,000 yards for the Browns and landed on the cover of Madden. In 2012, Hillis has 193 yards on the season with just one touchdown. He’s caught nine passes for 56 yards. His biggest game was 11 carries for 66 yards early in the season. He injured his ankle and missed three games. Crennel was asked about Hillis. “He’s been good, but was a little banged up and missed some time,” Crennel said. “Last week, he ran well, blocked well and was what we were expecting of him.” Shurmur knows what Hillis can do and also RB [Jamaal Charles]. “They’re one of the finer running teams in the league,” he said. “Jamaal Charles can score from anywhere. They spell him with Peyton Hillis, who got a touchdown last week.” Besides Hillis and Quinn, there are connections between the Browns and GM [Scott Pioli], Crennel and former Browns offensive coordinator [Brian Daboll]. “I’m aware (of those),” Shurmur said. “Every game that’s played there is crossover almost every week. What’s important as we get ready to play is that it’s the Browns against the Chiefs. There’s always crossover and you always want to do well against someone you played or coached for.” Travel Channel Show: Shurmur gave his take on the Travel Channel show that made its debut Tuesday night on “Browns: Road Tested”. “I did get a chance to preview it and thought it was done pretty well,” he said. “I hope what people take away from this is there are a lot of talented people around here. There wasn’t a leaking of competitive information.” Healthy Team: For the first time in a long, long time all 53 players were practicing during the time the media was able to watch. DB [Usama Young] (head) returned and DB [Dimitri Patterson] was practicing, as well. ![]()
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