What will Obama DO about the gun problem

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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 25, 2012 5:24 pm
The point here is that they don't have the moral right to take away your right to defend yourself.

But society does have a right to defend itself.  We can decide what you should not have.

The truth is, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the right to own a gun and the right to own and oerate a car.

Sorry, a gun has only one purpose.  Cars have many and still has regulations on what you can do it.  Plus, you can't just buy any weapon.

As to those misinterpreting the Constitution, all one need do is read the original intent of the authors and othr founders.  They made it very clear that the 2nd is an individual right.

No one is misinterpreting the Constitution except you.  What does "bare arms" mean?  We have already eliminate machines gun and rocket launchers.  Society and SCOTUS have the right to determine what can and cannot be sold and to whom.

I think the citizens are being quite reasonable in wanting the right to be able to own assault weapons

Why do they want an assault weapon?

BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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December 25, 2012 5:42 pm
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BUCKinFL
SinceOct 1, 2006
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December 25, 2012 8:52 pm
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.  The point being, it is none of your business.

giggle, giggle.  Is it really that small?

1. Part of a collection  2. Hunting  3. Target shooting  4.Self Defense  5. Defense of property  6.Resistance against Tyranny  7 .Job Creation

one, collect stamps.  two three, four and five, okay.  six, idiotic.  seven, still creating jobs while saving society.

Their primary point: Defense against Tyranny.

that was 225 years ago,  We do not have a "Wild Frontier" or a weak country today.  You are living in a fantasy world.

You obviously have zero clue as to what the original authors had in mind.

I am sure that the authors had no idea what this country would be 225 years later.  You live in the past and I live in the present.

Tyranny is not new

LMAO  You, sir, are not mentally fit to own any weapons.


BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 25, 2012 9:27 pm
And more BB post Fails.



Hmmm, I was hoping for some good reading online before bed. Oh well I've got the USC and the FP's, you can never go wrong with either.



 
Rsxfan
SinceJan 27, 2007
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 25, 2012 10:00 pm
BB, you suddenly know "nothing about guns", yet before you claimed to have "fired guns in basic training". Unless you've recently received a frontal lobotomy, those two statements are mutually exclusive. I call BS on you.
Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 26, 2012 12:53 am
you suddenly know "nothing about guns", yet before you claimed to have "fired guns in basic training"

dang, mystified, I fired a rifle in basic training and now I am an epert?  gun lovers' have very poor judgment.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 26, 2012 11:43 pm
BostonBeaner wrote:
you suddenly know "nothing about guns", yet before you claimed to have "fired guns in basic training"

dang, mystified, I fired a rifle in basic training and now I am an epert?  gun lovers' have very poor judgment.
Wow BB, so they just gave you a generic "gun" and threw you onto a range ?  What marvelous military force was this that you were auditioning for- the Salvation Army ?
Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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December 27, 2012 12:17 am
Wow BB, so they just gave you a generic "gun" and threw you onto a range ?

yep, I learn to take it apart, put it back together and shoot.  I didn't know caliber or what other kinds of guns were out there.  I was not going to be infantry.  Those guys went to advance training.  I can tell that you skipped the military and know nothing about about basic training.  But you know everything about your replacement.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 1:03 pm
BostonBeaner wrote:
yep, I learn to take it apart, put it back together and shoot.  I didn't know caliber or what other kinds of guns were out there.  I was not going to be infantry.  Those guys went to advance training. 
I call BS.  In addition to field stripping and cleaning, safety and familiarization are standard parts of the training regimen, even before they take you out on the range.  So you're either the worst student ever, or else a complete liar.

I can tell that you skipped the military and know nothing about about basic training. 
Except I never pretended to be in the military, BB.  That's the difference between you and me...
But you know everything about your replacement.
What's this now ?  More 'Mocha Man' mind-bending ?
Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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December 27, 2012 2:13 pm
I call BS ... Except I never pretended to be in the military, BB

sir, I object to a military dodger belittling my service.  I was drafted in 1968 and served 2 years.  Check what was happening in 1968.  Most college students no longer had a deferment and WERE drafted or joined the military services.

You disgust me.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:15 pm
BTW, I lost friends during the Vietnam war and would not joke about my service at that time.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:19 pm
BostonBeaner wrote:
sir, I object to a military dodger belittling my service.  I was drafted in 1968 and served 2 years.  Check what was happening in 1968.  Most college students no longer had a deferment and WERE drafted or joined the military services.
Sir, I think you may have me confused with someone else.  I was born in the 1970s. 

"Son, there ain't no draft no more."  -- Sgt. Hulka

But good deflection.  You want a prize for serving two years, but were never in harm's way ?  Coward.  You're as praise-worthy as George W. Bush.  I suggest you stop bringing up your "basic training" days, if you want to continue to pretend ignorance of semi-auto vs. full auto, rifle vs. pistol, high-capacity vs. ...uh, "low-capacity (normal capacity), etc.

You disgust me.
You make me sad.
Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:24 pm
you two should meet in the parking lot at Jason's Deli
uncleregis
SinceFeb 22, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:50 pm
Sir, I think you may have me confused with someone else

mystified dodged that I said "a military dodger" - not a draft dodger.

You're as praise-worthy as George W. Bush

get your facts straight, liar.  Bush dodged the draft by going into a very "loose" definition of reserve status.  No one in 1968 considered reservists of draft age as anything but draft dodgers.  You fools who don't know history or military service have know right to disrespect veterans.  Shut the hell up.

I suggest you stop bringing up your "basic training" days, if you want to continue to pretend ignorance of semi-auto vs. full auto, rifle vs. pistol, high-capacity vs. ...uh, "low-capacity (normal capacity), etc.

I suggest that you take your head out since you have no idea of what goes into being in the military service.  Speaking of cowards - these macho phonies who have nothing without their "guns"
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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December 27, 2012 3:44 pm
BostonBeaner wrote:
mystified dodged that I said "a military dodger" - not a draft dodger.
Oh, my mistake.  Then you're an idiot.  I've probably done more in the service of the military than you.  I was a DoD civilian for 6 years and am likely to rejoin at some point in the future.  My bosses were all uniformed army colonels and navy captains usually. 

My ability to determine the caliber of a firearm by simply reading the end of a cartridge casing came outside of my career.  Please go ahead and try to pull rank on me with your pretend "I fired rifles in basic training" yet "I don't know anything about guns" logic...
get your facts straight, liar.  Bush dodged the draft by going into a very "loose" definition of reserve status.  No one in 1968 considered reservists of draft age as anything but draft dodgers.  You fools who don't know history or military service have know right to disrespect veterans.  Shut the hell up.
Oh, so high are you in your own self-esteem, little things like "the truth" matter little.  You're actually less praise-worthy than George W. Bush.
I suggest that you take your head out since you have no idea of what goes into being in the military service. 
Take my head out... ?  As I said, I have more of a military career than you, which were never in harm's way, treated your alleged experience of firing a rifle as a check-the-box activity to be later forgotten, and now put yourself up on a pedestal on a message board.  Sol is being overly kind in his assessment of you.

Speaking of cowards - these macho phonies who have nothing without their "guns"
Blah blah blah broken record.  No one used gun ownership as an expression of one's manhood except you.  If you have "little man syndrome", that's okay, BB.  But this was a discussion about gun regulations and mental illness.  Your inferiority complex is a story for another day...
Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:35 pm
  Most college students no longer had a deferment and WERE drafted or joined the military services.
Ummm,no they weren't.
Rsxfan
SinceJan 27, 2007
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 2:52 pm
Ummm,no they weren't

UMMMM, YES, THE HELL THEY WERE.  good god, what a bunch of asses.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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December 27, 2012 3:18 pm
No actually they weren't. 


But then again you never let the facts get in the way of your delusions. 
Rsxfan
SinceJan 27, 2007
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December 27, 2012 3:26 pm
No actually they weren't.

In 1968, college deferment no longer existed for those doing graduate work or were already in schools for 4 (?) years.  Many college kids had a choice of being drafted or joining a military branch.  Reservist spots were filled unless you had the right connections.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 3:38 pm
And like I said, it wasn't "most" like you said.


 
Rsxfan
SinceJan 27, 2007
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December 27, 2012 3:45 pm
From 1960 to 1975 somewhere around 11 million served in the military, of those roughly 2 million were draftees.



Now take your wrinkly old fingers and go research how many were of draft age during that time and you'll find "most" did not in fact have to do what you proclaimed. 
Rsxfan
SinceJan 27, 2007
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December 27, 2012 3:52 pm
Alright alright....

Hes had enough.

let the old guy dust himself off and grab his coat before he leaves. 


TwistedMoFo
SinceJul 2, 2009
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BUCKinFL
SinceOct 1, 2006
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December 27, 2012 12:42 am
You can't believe a word he says ... The idea is to ridicule the adversary

hypocrite.

to try to make them out to be some kind of social misfit.

You are wrong.  You ARE a social misfit.

Thus his idiotic and continued asertions that anyone who supports the 2nd Amendment is somehow a redneck with a small wee-wee that he is compensating for.

Never mentioned "redneck" but you got the rest right.  I believe ridiculing your romance with guns is working.

I didn't see one post that wasn't on a politcal thread.  Got to wonder what he is compensating for

yep, I am a political nerd but you are still clueless.

BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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December 27, 2012 1:06 am
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BUCKinFL
SinceOct 1, 2006
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December 27, 2012 3:23 pm
You can't believe a word he says.  His tactics are old and familiar.  But Liberals like him are addicted to them.  The idea is to ridicule the adversary to try to make them out to be some kind of social misfit.  It's a very old tactic and easy to spot.  Thus his idiotic and continued asertions that anyone who supports the 2nd Amendment is somehow a redneck with a small wee-wee that he is compensating for.

He's nothing more than a political hack.  He is nothing more than an internet warriot for the left.  All you need to do is look at his profile page and go to his messages.  I looked at half of them, 1-10 and random pages from there to his ealiest page of messages.  I didn't see one post that wasn't on a politcal thread.  Got to wonder what he is compensating for.  It's normal to come to OT oncein a while, ir even post as much on OT as your favorite sports boards, but to do nothing but post on a sports website's OT and the vast majority of those on political threads...yeah, it's easy to see his agenda.  I wouldn't even doubt if he is a paid internet activist.
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Too many words, simplify. Here:
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BB is an idiot.
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Done.
NFL-Solomon
SinceMar 8, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 8:47 pm
BUCKinFL wrote:
2.  Hunting
True.  Not my thing, but I don't deny others the opportunity to hunt, so long as it's not an endangered species or purely for trophies. 

Carey Price, goaltender for Montreal Canadiens is in a bit of trouble over a hunting photo he tweeted:



From the look of it, he used an evil, black, AR-15 carbine type gun to bag the varmint.  That didn't stop the author of the article, CBS's Brian Stubits, usually pretty good in his writing from calling it an "assault rifle" and insinuating that somehow Canadian athlete-hunters should be ultra-PC because of shooting by a crazy in another country...

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e
ye-on-hockey/21460234/canadiens-goa
lie-carey-price-draws-some-heat-for
-coyote-hunting-photo



Misterfamous
SinceOct 20, 2008
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What will Obama DO about the gun problem?

December 27, 2012 10:37 pm
Misterfamous, nice post.
 
I use an AR15 myself chambered in 223 for hunting, prarie dogs and varment type. This is the weapon of choice for such a hunt. A normal sitting you will fire off 500 rounds easy and a semi auto gives you the ability to collect staggering numbers. Larger game, coyote hunting I prefer a 243 cal. It has a little more oomff. No semi auto's are chambered for 243 though.  
nosesludge1
SinceNov 12, 2012