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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 9, 2013 5:56 pm
R's good d's bad
when massive debt is run up by a repub president, it was the d's in congress who caused it when deficits are smaller when a d is in the whitehouse, all the credit goes to the r congress when massive debt is run up with an r congress and r pres, it's bawney fwanks fault when Obama takes over an economy on the brink of disaster, here and globally, it'd a d's fault for not fixing the staggering debacle that was our economy quicker Toy, you say Mitt would have fixed everything in 2 years, am I correct in saying that you think it takes time for policies to kick in? How long before r's started blaming everything bad in our economy on Obama? Oh you say it started before he ever took office? sounds about right so we were losing 750,000 jobs a month at the end of w's 2nd term, Obama is the food stamp president for giving assistance to people who couldn't find work when 750,000 people a month were losing their jobs, that created more debt taxes not collected, benefits being given out Dec 2012 marked the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 but no matter nothing's getting better well except for employment,the stock market and new housing starts and all that progress could be undone by screwing around with the debt ceiling, and also allowing everybody's taxes going up Here's what I dont get the r's, especially the tea party, whine incessantly about how raising taxes on the wealthy will stunt economic growth This is not the time to be raising taxes But then they want to allow everybody"s taxes to go up if it means raising taxes on the rich Do they not realize that the taxes on the rich are going to go up, once the tax cuts expire? So, like little children, they pout and make everybody's taxes go up, even though they say this is not the time to raise taxes so a question which will cause the greatest harm to the economy? 2% of people's taxes going up, or 100%? sorry I dont get it |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 9, 2013 8:38 pm
R's good d's bad
Never thought I'd get you to admit that fact...you are starting to scare me... when massive debt is run up by a repub president, it was the d's in congress who caused it when deficits are smaller when a d is in the whitehouse, all the credit goes to the r congress when massive debt is run up with an r congress and r pres, it's bawney fwanks fault Go back and read what you first posted... when Obama takes over an economy on the brink of disaster, here and globally, it'd a d's fault for not fixing the staggering debacle that was our economy quicker Those were Obama's words...remember? He said unemployment would be low...and on and on... Toy, you say Mitt would have fixed everything in 2 years, am I correct in saying that you think it takes time for policies to kick in? at least two years as Reagan's policies did. How long before r's started blaming everything bad in our economy on Obama? Oh you say it started before he ever took office? Again, he is the one that said it right during the stimulus passing. sounds about right Now, it does. so we were losing 750,000 jobs a month at the end of w's 2nd term, Obama is the food stamp president for giving assistance to people who couldn't find work when 750,000 people a month were losing their jobs, that created more debt taxes not collected, benefits being given out You need to check your numbers...the worst losses happened before obama took office not after... Dec 2012 marked the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 Who counts the people that fell off the government watch any longer? but no matter nothing's getting better well except for employment,the stock market and new housing starts Compared to when? and all that progress could be undone by screwing around with the debt ceiling, and also allowing everybody's taxes going up It's the last chance there is to hold obama and the dems to cutting spending...if the debt ceiling is raised with no cencessions these dems will never cut a thing... Here's what I dont get the r's, especially the tea party, whine incessantly about how raising taxes on the wealthy will stunt economic growth And the left just voted to raise them on everyone... This is not the time to be raising taxes Obama said those words just a few short years ago...with the economy in such tough shape...now is not the time to raise taxes on anyone...WHAT changed? But then they want to allow everybody"s taxes to go up if it means raising taxes on the rich Do they not realize that the taxes on the rich are going to go up, once the tax cuts expire? So, like little children, they pout and make everybody's taxes go up, even though they say this is not the time to raise taxes so a question which will cause the greatest harm to the economy? 2% of people's taxes going up, or 100%? sorry I dont get it I can see your point on taxes...however, the same could have been said about healthcare...why mess up the whole system to accomodate 20-30 million people? How did that make sense? We now have the Obama tax increase...we also had the tax holiday expire....I'll ask again here...what are your expectations for the economy now that he got his way? |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 6:26 am
Here's what I dont get the r's, especially the tea party, whine incessantly about how raising taxes on the wealthy will stunt economic growthThis is a prime example of how stupid and out of touch House Republicans are. - Don't raise taxes on anyone! - Well, if you are going to raise them on the top 2%, lets go over the cliff and raise taxes on everyone Nice logic, House Republican morons. |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 7:01 am
Here's what I dont get the r's, especially the tea party, whine incessantly about how raising taxes on the wealthy will stunt economic growthThis is a prime example of how stupid and out of touch House Republicans are. - Don't raise taxes on anyone! - Well, if you are going to raise them on the top 2%, lets go over the cliff and raise taxes on everyone Nice logic, House Republican morons __________________________________ Another example of how out of touch the left is... The r's say...we will compromise and give in to a tax on the upper class...in return, we want meaningful spending cuts. The left says no way and even insert more deals for corporations and add a little more crony capitalism... Sandy relief package put together by the left is full of pork and pet projects. What should have been 45b turns into 61b. Once presented, Boehner says...NO WAY...this isn't a relief package...its another example why Washington is broken. The left goes to the mountain and shouts...those damn r's don't care about hurricane victims...accurate or not? Debt deal...president says he isn't going to discuss it. The r's say...yes, you will and we are going to force you to face the spending problem. The president in turn says..."We don't have a spending problem"? hmm The left is only concerned with two things...confiscating more wealth and re-distributing into more entitlement programs... These are facts you can't deny... |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 9:16 am
The r's say...we will compromise and give in to a tax on the upper class...in return, we want meaningful spending cuts. The left says no way and even insert more deals for corporations and add a little more crony capitalism...Lets say this is true.... - The R's say in return for tax hikes on the top 2%, we want meaningful spending cuts - The D's say no way, just raise taxes on the top 2% with no spending cuts. How is the rationale response from the R's then, "Well then let taxes go up for everybody!". This is like a childish tantrum, "if I can't have my way, then everyone should pay"! (even though R's are against taxes going up on the top 2% and warn that this will hurt the recovering economy, they were willing to let taxes go up for everyone?). You know what would have been rationale? To say, "OK Mr. President, you have us over a barrel here and even though we disagree with you, for the greater good, we won't let taxes go up for everyone. We'll be back to fight another day when the circumstances are more favorable." This proves that their stance against increased taxes has nothing to do with principle. House R's are an unpricpled bunch of carnival barkers, clowns and reprobates. |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 11:25 am
This is like a childish tantrum,
Mont, heard in the sandbox: "we play by my rules or not at all" "you show me yours and i might show you mine" "your slice of pie is bigger than mine" "no fair, you made me do it" "not me!!!" |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 12:37 pm
"your slice of pie is bigger than mine"Those darned 1%'ers |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 15, 2013 4:16 pm
Lets say this is true....If you truly believe that the D's intend to only raise taxes on the top 2% with no spending cuts and the R's give them EVERYTHING they want...you are WAY more naive than I originally thought. |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 10:12 am
These are facts you can't deny...
You got some wrong, and missed some... lol. The r's say...we will compromise and give in to a tax on the upper class...in return, we want meaningful spending cuts. The left says no way and even insert more deals for corporations and add a little more crony capitalism... That is 100% false. The R's say - we will compromise on the tax for upper class and we want spending cuts - BUT we refuse to tell you what cuts we want, and instead, are going to stonewall until you offer up those cuts for us, because we are too big of political pus$ies to suggest direct cuts to Medicare and SS, because old people vote a lot. The R's wanted to be the party that didn't have to make any tough choices. They wanted the democrats to be the party advocating for both tax increases (unpopular) and entitlement cuts (unpopular), so that they didn't have to carry any of the associated political baggage. Sandy relief package put together by the left is full of pork and pet projects. What should have been 45b turns into 61b. Once presented, Boehner says...NO WAY...this isn't a relief package...its another example why Washington is broken. The left goes to the mountain and shouts...those damn r's don't care about hurricane victims...accurate or not? Uh... you left out that there were tons of NE Republicans that were hollering about this too. Perhaps you should go see what Rep. Peter King had to say about the GOP shooting down this bill. Same for Chris Christie... Btw - the relief package wasn't even put together by the left. It was put together in the HOUSE, which is controlled by the GOP, and had lot's of GOP input. It was created by both parties. Again, check out what Peter King had to say about it - including how much time he spent working on the bill... Debt deal...president says he isn't going to discuss it. The r's say...yes, you will and we are going to force you to face the spending problem. The president in turn says..."We don't have a spending problem"? hmm Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. The only "record" of Obama saying this is that Boehner told some guy writing a piece for the WSJ that Obama said that. Just curious - if it was Obama claiming that Boehner said something, how quickly would you disregard it? I'm betting less than 2 seconds. Seriously, you won't be able to find one single solitary other instance of Obama saying we don't have a spending problem. Or if you can, you have bested me, because I can't find anything. The left is only concerned with two things...confiscating more wealth and re-distributing into more entitlement programs... LOL, I hope you don't honestly think this is a fact. For one, who is "the left?" Secondly, I'd like to think you know the difference between fact and opinion... |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 5:36 pm
For one, who is "the left?"
It's a small group of people who are to blame for everything bad in America That's what people in the "personal responsibilty" party keep saying And may I say these folks in the "personal responsibilty" party, have done a magnifcent job of leading by example |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 11:18 am
he r's say...we will compromise and give in to a tax on the upper class..
sux, do you mean Plan B that could not get passed by the GOP? Just on millionaires and the tea baggers wouldn't agree. Sandy relief package put together by the left is full of pork and pet projects agree but I am pretty sure that money for Alaskan fisheries was not a left idea. Too much pork by dems and repubs just as they have done on every "emergency" bill. Boehner says...NO WAY Boehner and the right always wait until the last minute to reject it. Instead of going on vacation, Boehner should have gone to conference and hammer it out even about the repub pork. No, he doesn't like to stand up to anyone and just rejects anything. Debt deal... Debt Ceiling and, yes, it has to happen so Obama doesn't see the need to talk about it. We have already had spending cuts and finally increased tax revenue. So let's talk about sequestration. Obama is willing but the right wants cuts before the discussion. Are they so bad in discussions that they can only use frivolous threats? I believe that their arguments are so weak that they prefer not discussing them. Sorta like asking a repub what his/her pro-life views mean. |
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Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!January 10, 2013 5:30 pm
these are facts you can't deny
LOL you dont know what a fact looks like, let alone an undeniably true fact |