Rams Offseason thread

Jordan Reed plays for Florida right? Not a bad choice of TE, especially in the 3rd. I'd rather have Da'Rick Rogers if I had to choose between the two though. He just reminds me of Julio (just a bit) and I'm still salt that we missed out on him two drafts ago. Smh. How tall is Reed?

Reed is 6'3 240 from Florida and Rogers won't be around in the 3rd, unless his combine goes bad which i highly doubt.     

Justin Hunter, Robert Woods, Deandre Hopkins, Terrance Williams, Rogers, Quinton Patton and Cobi Hamilton all are projected in round 2 or 3.

hunter and woods are ok - not sure if they will be big time NFL WR's and doubtful they will be there with our 2nd round pick.  Hopkins might be good, but he won't be there either.  No thanks on Cobi, Williams, Patton.

There will be a run of WR's picked in the 2nd - 3rd rounds.   

no, our biggest need is offensive line...period


Our biggest need is Offense.  period.  ->   offense...  lol  that's what i said

I doubt he'll be there in the 3rd too. I would just choose him over Reed if both were available at that time. I wouldn't mind having Reed though. I just like the idea of a tall rangy TE with big play capabilities. I have a feeling that Rogers will perform and we'll miss out on him unless we can maneuver in the 1st nd pick up an additional 2nd rd pick anyway. I'm starting to be unsure if Warmack will even be around come 16.

2 WRs to keep an eye on at the combine:


Markus Wheaton, BEAVERS


Marquess Wilson, Wash St.


I think these guys could be steals, but Wheaton is starting to show up on alot of people's radar.        


Why can't Sammy Wadkins be in this draft!!  

<blockquote class="QuoteMessage"> Aron Mellette from Elon. He is 6'3, 218 pounds and runs 4.4.</blockquote>

<br /> <br /> <br /> Good find.  Don't know about that 40..  We will find out. 

my mistake on Mellette... 4.53 is his last recorded 40 time. Still very good for a taller WR, but not quite the 4.4 I thought I read.


I am still of the opinion that if Warmack is there at 16 we HAVE to have him. If he is gone, I would look at the safeties there and then maybe look at Eddie Lacy at #22. Then go Fluker in round 2, Kyle Long in round 3, OLB in round 4, Mellette in round 5 and then BPA in the last 2 rounds.


Obviously if we get Warmack and Fluker then the safety is drafted at #22 and we look at Bell or Ball in round 3.  

Hey KSUDodgers: Your scenarios are fairly close to being right on especially if Warmack is gone by 16. We are going after Warmack if he is there and we may even trade up a bit to get him. But if they decide against this and Warmack is gone at 16, we then almost assuredly will select a safety at one of our first rounders with Lacy at the other one.

Then we will see Fluker in the second and Kyle Long just may end up wearing horns after all in the third or fourth because Fisher is big on loyality and Kyle Long would be a very good addition to our O-line especially with Boudreau. I am hoping it will be Warmack at 16, one of the safeties at 22, and Fluker in the second. If Warmack is gone, I see your scenarios unfolding. Retroram. 

It's a slow friday at work....  so here it is.

Couple players to keep an eye on:


DJ Swearinger, 5'11 210 FS/SS South Carolina: Played mostly FS and some CB in college.   Good against the run and good cover skills, good speed.  He will be a combo Safety in the NFL.  Currently projected 3-4 round, but might move up.


Baccari Rambo, 6' 210 FS/SS Georgia:  You all know I like this guy.  Played on a solid defense at Georgia.  He's another FS that might move to SS.


Shamarko Thomas, 5'9 217 SS Syracuse:   This guy runs a 4.39, plays the game with reckless abandonment and loves to throw his body around. Very aggressive and a tough run defender, but needs more discipline with his coverage responsibilities.  Projected 5th rounder.  I would love to turn this guy into a RB!



Larry Warford, 6'3 340 OG Kentucky:    Projected 2-3 rounder.  If we do miss out on Warmack, this guy could be a steal in the 2-3 round.  This guy is stronger and has good balance, but needs to work on mobility and get quicker.


Kerrwyn Williams, 5'8 195 RB Utah St:  projected late rounds.  Runs a 4.44 and I'm sorry but I think the RB under 5'10 in the NFL with speed is a huge weapon.  Sproles defined this role.   


DJ Harper, 5'8 205 RB Boise St:  Runs a 4.48.  Strong, with good speed.  Again I love the smaller RB.  Projected late rounder.


Chris Harper, 6'1 225 WR KSU:  Runs a 4.46.   Just looks like a heck of an athlete.  Projected 4th rounder.


 Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Terrance Williams, Da'Rick Rogers, Cordarrelle Patterson all are right there and there positions will move based on combine scores.  I think they are all very similiar,but I would prefer Patterson, Rogers, or Allen - based on his injury status. 

I'm a fan of taking Jordan Reed in the 3rd or 4th round if he's the best avail player.
if we were to look for an underrated TE with size, I saw Joseph Fauria play a couple games. He's the nephew of Christian Fauria.
Joseph is 6'7" 260. UCLA played alot of spread leaving him split out quite often. He had nearly 60 catches and led the nation in TD's caught by TE's with 11 this last year. He's currently projected in different mocks to go anywhere from the 5th to 7th round.
If Reed's gone, then Fauria may be a diamond in the rough with one of our late round picks.

I like both of those guys and yeah J Fauria will be a late rounder, but Jordan Reed is the 3rd TE on the board right now and I'm thinking he will probably be a late 2nd to mid 3rd rounder.  But who knows?  If he has a good combine and with demand for TE's going up, he may move into the early 2nd?

Hey Sportsjunkie: I have also seen some articles over at WalterFootball indicating that if we miss on Warmack and get Fluker, that Larry Warford is on our draft board. I like the guy as well. If Warmack is missing, we will end up with one of the safeties, probably Vaccaro, and one of the WRs with Fluker in the second. Kyle Long could then be had later on like fourth or fifth round and our O-line would be vastly improved.

Baccari Rambo is an intriguing prospect and if we come out of the draft with Vaccaro and Rambo, that is one hell of a D-backfield and I would be very pleased because that means we would not have to suffer another season with C. Dahl mucking things up. Your list of later round picks make a lot of sense for us on a number of levels. Good Friday to you! Retroram.

retro -  I just don't see the big need for a safety with one of our 1st rounders.  We have got to hit on these and we need help on offense alot more than defense.  Our defense was solid alot of this year.  If we take a safety and pass on a Patterson or Allen, where are we going to find big playmakers?  We have Givens, but Pettis and Quick seem athletic and pretty good - do they possess everything it takes to be a #1 WR?  I think we need to evaluate further after the combine and hopefully get Patterson or Allen - if he's healthy.

I hear you on the need to improve our offense and that means the O-line and a WR. I think it will all depend on what happens with Warmack. If he is gone by 16 (barring a trade up to get him earlier) then we will probably take Fisher along with Patterson or Allen in the first with Fluker in the second and Rambo later on. 

We need a change at Safety to dispose of C. Dahl and Mikell may be a cap casualty. Stewart is pretty much done so we are getting a little thin and that is why we will probably take one of the big three in the first even though some pundits indicate that one or more may be available in the second which would disrupt us getting Fluker unless we trade one of our first rounders for more seconds.

Like I stated, if we come out of this draft with Warmack, Fluker, a WR AND Vicarro and Rambo, that would be a one hell of a draft. But again, it all depends on how the draft goes as you well know. retroram.

Yeah it seems we will need some help at both safeties.  I just think those are positions you fill in with good athletes and your defense will still be good.  Put good safeties back there with a bigger SLB and the defense could be great.

But I would rather have a good defense and a good offense, than a great defense and another season with a below average offense.




that is all    

Would Fluker and Hopkins or Rogers be there late in the 2nd round??  Maybe Rogers is my guess - there will be a run on the good WR's in the late 1st to mid 2nd.  If we do get a Warmack, Vaccaro, and Rogers with are first 3 picks I would be ok with that, but we better find an OT somewhere.

Do you all want to see another season of a Bradford under alot of pressure and have a possible All Pro safety? 

We have pick #16 in every round Junkie... Fluker is projected to be there at #48. We will especially get Fluker is we lose out on Warmack.
I am thinking that the first 4 picks will go one of 2 ways IMO


Warmack,Vaccaro,Fluker,RB
Vaccaro,Lacy,Fluker,OG


Junkie, you and I are going to agree to disagree on this put none of the WR in this draft are Julio Jones or AJ Green. I think we would be better served restocking the O line which would instantly give Bradford more time which would lead to the WR getting better passes to catch and more opportunities to make plays. We can still grab another WR since we are going to lose Steve Smith and possibly Brandon Gibson from the rotation but hypethetically, lets say we go into the season with Amendola,Givens,Quick,Pettis and a rookie or 2, I would be very ok with that. Even more so if we get the 2 O lineman and the RB.

But no matter what we do, we MUST come out of the draft with an interior lineman AND a LEFT tackle... MUST MUST MUST\



How about this protecting Bradford from left to right??


Fluker,Warmack,Wells,Dahl,Saffold   with Watkins,Smith,Barksdale and Turner on the bench!!

Hey KSUDodgers: Pretty good but I like these O-lines left to right: Barksdale, Watkins, Wells, Warmack, Fluker with Dahl, Saffold, Nyseke, and Turner on the bench. Or if we miss on Warmack: Barksdale, Watkins Wells Dahl or Washington, Fluker with Dahl or Washington, Saffold, Nyseke, and Turner on the bench. retroram.

Projections right now are just that..  until the combine and the draft, alot will change.   Why you wouldn't want to put your top picks in the offense is beyond me..?


And we need a big time WR alot more than we need a big time safety.  I think Patterson and Allen may be there at 16 or 22.  Not many OT's in the draft either and 2 might be gone by the 16th pick.  Alot of good defensive players in this draft tho.  I believe in the BPA and we will see iwho they are in April.


What will you do if Warmack goes earlier and Fluker does too?  They were on the ncaa national back-to-back championship team.  Good news is sometimes teams will not take a OG in the 1st round.  You just never know what's going to happen.

This is where I'm at now, but things will change in a few months.

Hell Junkie, it would not hurt my feelings at all if they went with,say, Patterson at #16, Lacy at #22 and Fluker at #48. I also see that Eric Reid and Elam are slipping down draft boards at safety. Who knows maybe one of them are there in round 3, but if not Robert Lester will be. How about a heavy Bama draft??


Warmack,Lacy,Fluker,Lester in the first 3 rounds. Then look for the WR and OLB!!



I don't know, can you guys tell I love this stuff?    

For Left tackles:
Luke Joeckel, this years elite guy, top 5 pick.

Lane Johnson, Oklahoma seems to be sliding upwards in some mocks due to his athleticism. Former QB that moved to left tackle and played pretty well. Depending on the combine, inside the top 10 to mid 20's.

Eric Fisher seems to be regarded as the 2nd or third best Left tackle but doesn't get much hype since he comes out of C-Michigan. depending on the combine he could slide into the top 10 or still be available at 16.

Someone that I find interesting is Barrett Jones. He started a dozen or so games at right guard for bama. Then moved to Left tackle last season for 10 or so games and played at an elite level, then saban moved him to Center this past season to anchor the line.
Thing is that he has torn ligaments in his left foot so he may still be rehabbing through the combine. Projected as a first rounder, he may slide to the 2nd if he misses the combine.
Downside is size, 6'4" 310. A lil short for an elite NFL tackle. But he may be an upgrade over what we have at LT and could come with value if he slipped to our 2nd round pick.

Barrett Jones won't be a T in the NFL. He MIGHT be able to get away with filling in at RT. He'll likely be a G or C though and I'd LOVE to have him and Warmack back together in blue and gold!!

I highly doubt Fluker will be gone prior to 16.
The kids up towards 350 and has played Right Tackle through college.

What is there maybe 3 startable left tackles in this draft?
2 will likely be gone before the 16th pick with the kid out of central michigan, Fisher being whats left.

Why you wouldn't want to put your top picks in the offense is beyond me..?

The Saints and Lions were #2 and #3 in the NFL in total offense. Defense is more important than offense. The Rams have young and talented skill position players on offense, just let them mature and protect them with big eaters. 

Got a question.

I've been wondering what happened to RB Michael Dyer?

The kid carried about a 6 yeard average for 2 seasons with Auburn.
Including being the mvp in the BCS title game a cpl seasons ago.
Something in the realm of 300 carries for over 2500 yeards during his freshman and sophomore seasons.
I know he left Auburn to follow a coach to Ark. State.
After that he had some sort of meltdown and didn't play football last year.
Has he declared for the 2013 draft?
Is he sane again?
Anyone got anything on this kid?

Sounds like Dyer was forced to sit out a year according to NCAA rules on transferring. In that time, a controvesial traffic stop lead to his dismissal from Arkansas State (1). After that, it seems he enrolled at Arkansas Baptist without an intention of playing football. (2)

(1) http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/art
icle/85839/red-wolves-malzahn-discu
sses-details-of-dyer-dismissal 
(2) http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf
-dr-saturday/michael-dyer-bumpy-roa
d-ends-arkansas-baptist-college-190
426766--ncaaf.html 

what about Mike Smith as the defensive coach? i got a feeling he could be looking for a job really really soon

Interesting redgirl, I think he stays but the fact that Ryan had the interview and has not been signed yet makes me wonder WHY?  I thought it was almost a done deal yet no news.  Might be the case of Fisher thinking why upset the applecart when things have turned around for the Rams.  We will see probably the next couple of days.