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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 3, 2013 11:55 pm
When the Heat win their 3rd title in 7 years this season I can't wait to hear your lame excuseLaughing my ass off, punchline! Because, when the Heat ultimately fail to consolidate their * title this season and next, and "Yes.We.Did" turns into "Then.We.Took.Our.Talents.Elsew here" once the reality of "One And Done" sets in, I can't wait to read your lame posts as the Heat re-enter an inevitable period of renewed mediocrity and irrelevancy. |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 12:40 am
You said James would never win the title. James now have a title so therefore your credibility went out the window last June. You promise all the haters on here that the Heat big 3 WILL NEVER WIN A TITLE TOGETHER. It's going to make it that much sweeter when they win title #2 together while your Lakers season will come to an end in late April/early May at the ends of OKC in a short 5 game series
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 1:36 am
"James now have a title"...what/who are you, Chief Wild Eagle??? Punchline, don't you get it? the Heat are going to need to consolidate their asterisk title in order for it to really mean anything and stand up, especially given all the bluster and hand-wringing of "Yes.We.Did". Too bad "One And Done" and the inevitable demise of your "Three Kings" is the more likely conclusion come the summer of 2015. And what do you mean by "the ends of OKC"???
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 6:36 pm
the Heat are going to need to consolidate their asterisk title in order for it to really mean anything and stand up Jefe, what advantage did Miami have last year over all other teams to give their title an asterisk? What was different about the postseason last year compared to other past postseasons that gave Miami an edge over all playoff teams? If a player misses 25 games during the regular season yet plays all postseason and goes on to win a title, does it need to be noted that he played less than 82 games and his ring is not legit? |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 7:27 pm
J_D, I realize this is a sensitive topic for you so I'll try to keep this as simple as possible. It's not about having gained some sort of advantage over any and all other teams that makes the title one marked by an asterisk - it's simply about the fact that the postseason and championship won came on the heels of a lockout shortened season - it's a stigma, that's all.
The Spurs dealt with the very same thing back in '99 (following the last lockout shortened season) when they won their first title - people (including Phil Jackson) marginalized it - it is what it is, no need to get all bent out of shape about it. Having said that, and to their credit, the Spurs consolidated this asterisk title, and cemented their stature as one of the truly elite teams in the league, by going on to win additional titles in the Tim Duncan era in '03, '05 and '07...and that's why nodody chides them for the asterisk title - their first - in '99. So, therein lies the rub with this godforsaken "Yes.We.Did" Heat team, and the fact that it two seasons to get their first championship, Lebron's first - it just so happen to come on the heels of an unfortunate and extremely rare lockout shortened season...the onus is now on them to back it up with another one just to prove that it wasn't just a fluke of circumstance. I truly believe that this Heat team lacks the wherewithal to back up their * title with another one this season and/or next - I just don't think they have it in 'em - too much "doinking" going on in South Beach these days. And, rest assured, if the Heat fail to consolidate this season or next season, LeBron is as good as gone - and that's when you can officially kiss "Yes.We.Did" goodbye. |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 8:10 pm
it's simply about the fact that the postseason and championship won came on the heels of a lockout shortened season - it's a stigma, that's all. An asterisk in sports denotes an advantage gained over other competition. That much is fact. The Spurs dealt with the very same thing back in '99 (following the last lockout shortened season) when they won their first title - people (including Phil Jackson) marginalized it - it is what it is, no need to get all bent out of shape about it. Spurs playing the giant underdog Knicks in 1999 is not even close to the competitiveness going into last seasons Finals. I'm sure Phil would have said the same if the Lakers had won it all that year, right? It wouldn't be considered a 4 peat right? Clear case of him being butthurt and trolling at the time. So, therein lies the rub with this godforsaken "Yes.We.Did" Heat team, and the fact that it two seasons to get their first championship, Lebron's first - it just so happen to come on the heels of an unfortunate and extremely rare lockout shortened season...the onus is now on them to back it up with another one just to prove that it wasn't just a fluke of circumstance. The Heat were 2 games away the previous season from winning it all and that took James not playing up to par. So how was last seasons just a 'fluke'. Especially since they beat OKC who steamrolled the 'mighty' Western Conference to get to th Finals. After the WCF and ECF were decided and without looking it up I'd say that OKC was probably favored before game 1 tip-off. If the Heat had lost last season, would you accept the excuse from Heat fans that it was due to the shortened regular season? |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 8:31 pm
An asterisk in sports denotes an advantage gained over other competition. That much is fact.I disagree. In my book, an asterisk can be assigned to any special circumstance outside the norm. Spurs playing the giant underdog Knicks in 1999 is not even close to the competitiveness going into last seasons Finals. I'm sure Phil would have said the same if the Lakers had won it all that year, right? It wouldn't be considered a 4 peat right? Clear case of him being butthurt and trolling at the time.This is subjective and your opinion, which you are certainly entitled to. The point being made is that had that '99 championship been the only one won by the Spurs, I think a lot of people may have been inclined to perceive the "championship legacy" of that team a little differently, don't 'cha think? It took them following it up with a couple more to erase the stigma of that one * title in '99. And it is this business of follow-up which I believe this "Yes.We.Did" Heat team will be hard-pressed to replicate. The Heat were 2 games away the previous season from winning it all and that took James not playing up to par. So how was last seasons just a 'fluke'.Woulda, shoulda, coulda J_D!!! Fact is, last year's * title is all the Heat have to show in the way of actual championships won for all the bluster of "Yes.We.Did." and "The Decision". Ironically for Lebron, "not two, not three...(et al)" may very well come to fruition insofar as his "taking his talents to South Beach" is concerned! |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 9:07 pm
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 9:16 pm
JD notice Jefe didn't answer the most important question of your post because we all know what his answer is
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 9:22 pm
Really punchline?...
If the Heat had lost last season, would you accept the excuse from Heat fans that it was due to the shortened regular season?...was "the most important question of (J_D's) post"??? I ignored it because not only was it a stupid question, but it barely makes any sense! Are you trying to tell me Heat fans would've dared make such an excuse?...really??? |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 10:29 pm
t's not about having gained some sort of advantage over any and all other teams that makes the title one marked by an asterisk - it's simply about the fact that the postseason and championship won came on the heels of a lockout shortened season - it's a stigma, that's all. So basically you're full of Sh!t. |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 5, 2013 10:42 am
"J_D, I realize this is a sensitive topic for you so I'll try to keep this as simple as possible. It's not about having gained some sort of advantage over any and all other teams that makes the title one marked by an asterisk - it's simply about the fact that the postseason and championship won came on the heels of a lockout shortened season - it's a stigma, that's all."
In other words, there IS no actual difference, but it gives clowns a reason to claim that it is less of an accomplishment. It's not a stigma against the winners, it's an excuse for the losers. EVERY other team had the same positives and negatives. Frankly a team like Miami with less experience toether as a unit was at a competitive DISadvantage entering a year with no training camp. But then this isn't a group that lets common sense and logic stand in the way of a good whine. "Having said that, and to their credit, the Spurs consolidated this asterisk title, and cemented their stature as one of the truly elite teams in the league, by going on to win additional titles in the Tim Duncan era in '03, '05 and '07...and that's why nodody chides them for the asterisk title - their first - in '99." So winning a title FOUR YEARS LATER established it as "legitimate"? That's funny. There were only FOUR players from the '99 Spurs still on the roster in '03, Duncan, Robinson, Malik Rose and Steve Kerr. You you are just clowning yourself. "So, therein lies the rub with this godforsaken "Yes.We.Did" Heat team, and the fact that it two seasons to get their first championship, Lebron's first - it just so happen to come on the heels of an unfortunate and extremely rare lockout shortened season...the onus is now on them to back it up with another one just to prove that it wasn't just a fluke of circumstance." A fluke of circumstance? You act like they failed their first year. They played in the NBA Finals year one and won the NBA Finals year two. I just watched an interview with your beloved Laker Dwight Howard and watched him sit there and give the excuse about how it "takes time" for teams to gel when you add new elite players. James and the Heat were still able to make the NBA Finals their FIRST year together, despite the fact that it "ytakes time". Are the Lakers going to the NBA Finals in Year One together? Are they even going to the PLAYOFFS in Year One together? "I truly believe that this Heat team lacks the wherewithal to back up their * title with another one this season and/or next - I just don't think they have it in 'em - too much "doinking" going on in South Beach these days. " And you truly believed that James and the Heat did not have what it would take to win the NBA Finals LAST YEAR, so you'll have to excuse us if we don't take your "true beliefs" very seriously. All you're doing is moving what you hope will happen to the next thing after you fail to be right on item after item after item. You should be a Missouri Tigers basketball fan. They have this same mentality. |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 5, 2013 1:44 pm
All you're doing is moving what you hope will happen to the next thing after you fail to be right on item after item after item....actually, it was just the one item... |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 8:10 pm
Jefe, what advantage did Miami have last year over all other teams to give their title an asterisk? What was different about the postseason last year compared to other past postseasons that gave Miami an edge over all playoff teams?
Have a great Monday nite Knicks fan Door Prize |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 5, 2013 8:54 am
8. World class PEDs, courtesy of the Miami drug culture. ![]() 9. David Stern.
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 1:15 pm
to Red rum, my partner in crime on these boards, and to Black Mamba wherever he may be. congrats to the Ravens for getting it done, boys . now THOSE guys are respectable ...unlike a certain NBA team we all know... Thanks CL... SB CHAMPS RAVENS indeed. |
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 1:31 pm
Hahaha...so because of my retarded comments I have forced you to become Heat fans...I call you Heat fans because you root for the Heat...Lebron was like second in all star voting I think your quest to repair his honor is no longer needed...I say accept your fandom and stop beating around the bush...I would take you more serious if you stopped saying "I'm not a Heat fan" or "I'm a Philly fan but" then go into talking about Bronny and the Heat...and twocoach I don't know much about you but it's safe to say you are looking for a reason to hide your bandwagonism as well...
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Join the "Heat Haters" club now!February 4, 2013 2:25 pm
"and twocoach I don't know much about you but it's safe to say you are looking for a reason to hide your bandwagonism as well... "
Eh, what? What exactly am I hiding? I have been very clear about the fact that I only cheer for Miami for three reasons: 1) I like Mario Chalmers because he hit one of the greatest shots in Kansas basketball history 2) I root for LeBron James to play well because he is a great player who is fun to watch and has his crap together off the court despite how rare it is for an athlete to do so after being hyped to that level from a very early age. 3) Fans of other teams (not just the Lakers) have turned into babbling psycopaths on the topic of James and have shown the very essence of the ignorant "mob mentality" that runs rampant in the world of stupid people. Since I was not a fan of Miami before James went there, that makes me a bandwagon fan. I have no problem admitting that and have made no effort to hide that fact. I have zero problem with it at all as the term "bandwagon fan" is usually just thrown around by other fans as a lame attempt at a put down. I could not care less about why people cheer for who they cheer for. And honestly, I just enjoy a good message board argument from time to time. I'll support any team in an argument just to argue against an idiot. Although this group of "Haters" has gotten a bit tiresome as they go on and on with the same lame material. It's like watching the same funny movie 100 times in a row. After while, it's just not entertaining any more. |