Hard to beat New Orleans as Super Host city

Could have just as well been anyone.  I could have thrown it. 

Doubt it....you can barely spell.

Not in doubt.  I'm just explaining to you and your bitching fan club why no one thinks the Ravens will win the Super Bowl next year.

No one is saying they will...but they have the best chance of any of the 32 teams don't they?

Just been reading over your post and not sure of all the facts but didnt Ray turn states evidence so he would get a lighter sentence ?

Just been reading over your post and not sure of all the facts but didnt Ray turn states evidence so he would get a lighter sentence ?

No...are people really this dumb that they believe  aperson would plea a charge of DOUBLE MURDER down to a misdemeanor in exchange for testimony only.

The stste of Georgia realized that they had absolutely NO evidence against Ray Lewis and that he held all the cards...as well as knowing who killed those 2 people. They cut their losses and got Ray to testify but could not let him go scott free so he pled to a 1 count misdemeanor to satisfy the prosecutor who was standing there with egg on his face right before the election.

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The stste of Georgia realized that they had absolutely NO evidence against Ray Lewis

Inaccurate.  You can't indict someone without evidence.  Ray Ray was idicted.  He murdered those boys.  He got off by pleaing out a deal.

Inaccurate.  You can't indict someone without evidence.  Ray Ray was idicted.  He murdered those boys.  He got off by pleaing out a deal.

didn't I school you enough the last time you tried to tell me about...the law.

indictment n. a charge of a felony (serious crime) voted by a grand jury based upon a proposed charge, witnesses' testimony and other evidence presented by the public prosecutor (District Attorney). To bring an indictment the grand jury will not find guilt, but only the probability that a crime was committed, that the accused person did it, and that he/she should be tried. District Attorneys often only introduce key facts sufficient to show the probability, both to save time and to avoid revealing all the evidence.

School is now back in session Master.....you have already been held back once because you FAILED this very subject...do we ned remedial help....AGAIN.

didn't I school you enough the last time you tried to tell me about...the law.

No.  I won that argument.  As usual.

indictment n. a charge of a felony (serious crime) voted by a grand jury based upon a proposed charge, witnesses' testimony and other evidence presented by the public prosecutor

Booya!  I win.  Evidence presented that Ray Ray was guilty.  Indictment.  duh.  You lose again.

And not only do you lose, New Orleans stinks and is a terrible venue for the Super Bowl.  At least keep the power on.  Come on man.

I love it... Baltimore wins the Superbowl, so the Denver Retard (Masteragain) and the Banned Steeler Fan (Judge Midnight Troll) are going to troll Ravenmaniac now... So funny because Masteragain and MidnightTroll are arguably the 2 biggest morons to secure an ID and avatar on this site, yet try to convince us they are correct about something.  I have seen Masteragain's bold predictions... Pure comedy.  Masteragain couldn't pick a winner in a 1 horse race.  As for MidnightTroll... she is wrong far more than she is correct.  Once in a blue moon she gets something right, by parroting info she hears on the NFL Network.  For example... She knows Baltimore won the Superbowl because the NFL Network announced it. 

are going to troll Ravenmaniac now

Wrong.  I'm trolling you.  He chose to come here, so he gets what he deserves.





P.S.: Turn on the damn lights.

Wrong.  I'm trolling you.

Must be LOVE.

  He chose to come here, so he gets what he deserves.

I already got my....I WIN button.

I love it... Baltimore wins the Superbowl, so the Denver Retard (Masteragain) and the Banned Steeler Fan (Judge Midnight Troll) are going to troll Ravenmaniac now... So funny because Masteragain and MidnightTroll are arguably the 2 biggest morons to secure an ID and avatar on this site, yet try to convince us they are correct about something.  I have seen Masteragain's bold predictions... Pure comedy.  Masteragain couldn't pick a winner in a 1 horse race.  As for MidnightTroll... she is wrong far more than she is correct.  Once in a blue moon she gets something right, by parroting info she hears on the NFL Network.  For example... She knows Baltimore won the Superbowl because the NFL Network announced it. 

But TannyTroll owns so many BOOKS about sports....unfortunately her last bought of I know it all ended in her saying that Ray Lewis was guilty of murder because......he threw a suit away.

Bwahahahahahahahaha...and now MA is basing his moronic decision on the same thing.

Bwahahahahahahahaha

Clear sign of frustration.  I win.

I knew that the Saints ran a bounty program - something Saints fans STILL wont admit to.

I was right about Tony Romo being a flop.

I was right about the Giants not repeating.

And the Packers.

And the Saints having a bad season this year.

Remember? All of you here told me how you were going to rally and bountygate was only going to make you stronger and you were going to host AND play in the SB?

Yeah, how'd that work out?

I was right about Vilma losing his case against Roger.

I've been right a lot - it's just that some people wont, or can't - admit it.

I knew that the Saints ran a bounty program - something Saints fans STILL wont admit to.

I was right about Tony Romo being a flop.

I was right about the Giants not repeating.

And the Packers.

And the Saints having a bad season this year.

Remember? All of you here told me how you were going to rally and bountygate was only going to make you stronger and you were going to host AND play in the SB?

Yeah, how'd that work out?

I was right about Vilma losing his case against Roger.

I've been right a lot - it's just that some people wont, or can't - admit it.

Did someone hear something?

Remember? All of you here told me how you were going to rally and bountygate was only going to make you stronger and you were going to host AND play in the SB? --- as you say..prove it, link? Take your time.....I'll wait.

I hope you are not holding your breath.....NFL AM doesn't start till 3am PST. Remember, she needs to take notes before she posts.

No, I've seen it before. He/she won't respond because he/she can't prove it, because I never said it. He/she will just ignore it and blurt out something else with no proof. I guess anything is possible in fantasy land, where he/she resides.

Well, while we're waiting how about RM tell us all just one more time about how:

1). L.T. retired in 1981

2) L.T. never had any forced fumbles

3) Dick Butkus never had any sacks

Go ahead RM....please, explain.

Wyoming definately ain't no fantasyland. You won't get any answer till it airs on NFL AM....at 3AM PST.

tick tick tick tick.....

<p> GS12....we'll put you on the list...the waiting list that is. Your number is #68. TrayneTroll has so many people to explain or prove what she CLAIMS they said.....Now serving #2.</p>

Booya!  I win.  Evidence presented that Ray Ray was guilty.  Indictment.  duh.  You lose again.

Yeah...you are definately a WEINER.

The Case Against Ray Lewis

On February 2 the lead role in Lewis's defense was taken over by Ed Garland of Atlanta, described in the press as "a noted criminal lawyer who is known in the region for a certain flamboyance while representing the rich and famous." On February 7 Atlanta police searched Lewis's Baltimore home, and on February 10 there was a news conference given by Atlanta deputy police chief Carter Jackson and Fulton County district attorney Paul Howard, at which they gave the details of the case as they saw it. Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting were also principal suspects in the murder. Both had extensive criminal records, were still fugitives, and were considered armed and dangerous. The authorities said Lewis and two acquaintances had purchased knives at an Atlanta sporting goods store on January 29. Howard stated that witnesses would testify that Lewis had been active in the brawl. The chief prosecution witness would be the driver of the limousine, Duane Fassett. Two days later Lewis was indicted by a grand jury and charged with two counts of malicious murder, two counts of felonious murder, and two counts of assault with a deadly weapon.

The next day Ed Garland gave the defense's version of the incident, claiming that Lewis had attempted to be a peacemaker in the brawl and to break up the fight, trying to pull his acquaintances away. The shots that were fired were aimed at the limousine as it left.

On February 14 Joseph Sweeting turned himself into police, and Reginald Oakley did so the following day. That same day Lewis was released on $1 million bail, ordered to stay in his [Maryland] home, and to use no alcohol or drugs.

The case was assigned to Fulton County Superior Court judge Alice D. Bonner, and Lewis formally entered a not guilty plea. In pretrial motions Judge Bonner ruled that the results of the search of Lewis's home could be used in the trial, but that previous allegations of assault could not. Twice during Ray Lewis's college days Coral Gables police had investigated Lewis following allegations of battery made by different girlfriends, but no charges were brought. In November 1999 a woman had brought second-degree assault charges against Lewis, alleging that he had punched her in the face during an incident at a Baltimore area nightclub. These charges were dropped in late March 2000 because of conflicting testimony from witnesses.

Prosecution's Murder Case Collapses

Jury selection for the trial began on May 15. Before opening statements were made Judge Bonner ruled that a statement given to police by Ray Lewis after the incident, and now acknowledged to be false, could be introduced in evidence against him. The prosecution, led by Fulton County district attorney Paul Howard, began the presentation of its case on May 27. Howard acknowledged that no witness would testify to having seen Ray Lewis with a knife, but that the testimony would show involvement in the fighting that resulted in the deaths of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar. The defense emphasized that no witnesses saw any of the three defendants with a knife, that two men known to have fled in the limousine had never been traced, and that defense witnesses would contradict the testimony of Duane Fassett, the limousine driver and chief prosecution witness. Lewis, the defense would argue, was only trying to stop the fight.

In the second week of the trial the prosecution case was weakened when four of its witnesses failed to identify Lewis as an aggressor in the fight, and it disintegrated when Duane Fassett took the stand. In a statement to police Fassett had said that he saw Lewis punch one of the victims, and that in the limousine as it left he had heard Oakley say, "I stabbed mine" and heard Sweeting reply, "I stabbed mine too." But on the witness stand Fassett said that he had never seen Lewis throw a punch, and that he appeared to be trying to break up the fight. To the surprise of legal observers, District Attorney Howard didn't even attempt to impeach the witness by confronting him with his earlier statement.

Murder and Assault Charges Dropped

On Monday, June 5 the prosecution dropped the murder and assault charges against Lewis, in return for his agreeing to plead guilty to a misdemeanor (obstruction of justice) for making false, incomplete, and misleading statements to police after his arrest, and to testify against his codefendants. Lewis was given one year's probation, during which he was to continue to be employed; ordered to pay one-third of the court costs; and forbidden to use drugs or alcohol during the period of his probation.

In testimony the following day, Lewis told the court that Sweeting had shown him afterwards how he had concealed the knife in his fist and jabbed with it, but that he could not tell whether either Sweeting or Oakley had stabbed anyone. Oakley, he said, had been the aggressor in the fight. He had seen no blood on Sweeting's knife or clothing. The jury acquitted both men on June 12.

District Attorney Howard expressed his disappointment that the evidence given in court by several prosecution witnesses differed from their statements to police. But legal observers noted that Howard may have made strategic errors: by pursuing a quick indictment he had circumvented a preliminary hearing, which might have revealed the prosecution's strategy, but this had enabled the defense to demand a speedy trial, which the prosecution seemed unprepared for. Moreover, Paul Howard had not tried a case in four years and was in the middle of a reelection campaign. The anticipated media attention the trial would receive was seen by many as a factor in Howard's decision to personally lead the prosecution team.

You wrote all that when you could have just wrote: Ray Lewis got off because he's famous.

 

Ray is a murderer.

You wrote all that when you could have just wrote: Ray Lewis got off because he's famous.

No..I wotre it all becuase it shoots down your thoery.....you claimed Ray Lewis bought knives but the indictment has no evidenc eof it. You claimed he did it but there is NO witness to the fact. you claim he was indicted so he must be guilty....and we all know how that turned out so in fact...you are DEAD wrong...always have been and always will be until you can find a witness to corroberate what the prosecution...SUMISES happened rather than what realy did happen.

you may now take the hall pass and go wash your hands because it's almost milk and cookies time before you take your nap.

..I wotre it all becuase it shoots down your thoery

I don't have a theory.  It's a fact.  Ray murdered those boys.

you claimed Ray Lewis bought knives but the indictment has no evidenc eof it.

Except the receipt of the purchase earlier.

You claimed he did it but there is NO witness to the fact.

Except the two men who he paid to take the fall for him.

 you claim he was indicted so he must be guilty

You can't indict without evidence.  duh.

Ray Lewis is a murderer not a hero.

I don't have a theory.  It's a fact.  Ray murdered those boys.

Then you musrt have proof then right.....oh, that's right. you were absent when they taught law at Law School.

Except the receipt of the purchase earlier.

There was witness testimony that Sweeting purchased the knives.

Except the two men who he paid to take the fall for him.

and you also have evidence of this correct?

You can't indict without evidence.  duh.

Well where is it. with all the evidence you claim they had it should have been an open and shut case.

Ray Lewis is a murderer not a hero.

No...he's a 2 time Super bowl Champion...and that really bothers you.

and just like TrannyTroll he takes off for the high road.....so I guess I win....AGAIN

on the witness stand Fassett said that he had never seen Lewis throw a punch, and that he appeared to be trying to break up the fight.

A witness for the prosecution claimed Lewis tried to break up the fight.  Maybe the district attorney rushed to judgement and should have never even charged Lewis.  If DA Paul Howard was not trying to win reelection, maybe he would've sorted through the facts, realized he couldn't convict Ray Lewis, and not dragged his name through the mud.


Baker and Lollar were gang members convicted of dealing drugs, and they were breaking probation by leaving Ohio.  Now I ask you, what were they doing outside of an Atlanta nightclub at 4am?   They attacked Ray Lewis' entourage and broke a bottle over someone's head.  Why?  They were the aggressors...why?  For all the haters who seem to have all the answers, answer these simple questions.  After all, had they not attacked Ray Lewis's group, maybe they'd still be alive.  But I doubt it.


If you are a reasonable individual, then you would have to agree, self-defense was the appropriate ruling.