giver uppers

That does not mean getting better players cant make a difference.  The coaches and management will not last too much longer, but it would be nice to have some talent for the new regime to work with.

The Lions continue to disappoint and the fans continue to make excuses!! We've seen this song and dance to many times before, pro bowlers getting cut or traded because they don't fit someone elses scheme. Your riding the fence there big guy and what your basically stating is your okay with the Lions being a schedule filler and anyone else is a loser or whiner for demanding better. Either you believe in the GM and HC can lead the Organization to the promise land or their going to leave it in such a mess that we'll get to see history repeat itself once again. Its kinda like an old saying... "chit or get off the pot", Millen did neither.

I don't understand. Those that constantly point out the negatives about "your" team....why don't you move on? Why are you still here bashing the Lions and repeating (over and over) how bad they are and how this person and that person truly suck? Pick another team and leave the Lions' boards!!! How hard is that? Muzz is planning his move to the Seahawks board.....I hope some of you other constant complainers are making similar plans. (I've got big money that says that those "fans" will biotch about their 'new' team as well!)

BTW.....is there anyone who is dumb enough not to know that the negative nellies and giver-uppers will be back as soon as the Lions win? We call that front-running where I come from.

We call that front-running where I come from

And we call you a pathetic loser with such a D- life that you stalk people on a message board.  I was so curious as to why someone would go to such lengths to prove how worthless they are and I found this, I didnt realize they created new terms to be more poticially correct......

Stanford-Binet Scale of Human Intelligence
IQ Score             Original Term                  Current Term
145 and over      [Genius]
120–144              Exceptional
110–119            High Average
90–109               Average or Normal
80–89                 [Dull]                                 Dull Normal
70–79                 Borderline Deficiency        Mild disability
50–69                 [Moron]                            Jim Schwartz
20–49                 [Imbecile]                          Martin Mayhew
Below 20             Total Effing Dumbazz        Iffster

Odd that I got Meows' attention with my post. I must of said some things that bothered him a little? I wonder what I said that made him so upset? hehehehe

(Meow.....I hear that the Chiefs are looking for fans....might want to check that out. You sure could blow some negativity into that fan base!)

Odd that I got Meows' attention with my post. I must of said some things that bothered him a little?

Meow may be a little more negative then most, but at least he contributes.  He has been the salary cap guru.  Saves me tons of time an effort of having to research the numbers.  There are some here though that contribute nothing whatsoever and either bash, antogonize or plain whine.  Those are the ones that should just find another team to follow.  I dont understand what the big deal is.  People can be a fan of any team they wish.  And why take the poor performance to heart and be so upset 2 months after the season is over.  The way I look at it is I did not lose a thing.  I am not a player or coach on the team.  I just happen to be a fan.  If they stink then they stink, not really going to effect my life as I am not the one losing the games.

Meow may be a little more negative then most, but at least he contributes.  He has been the salary cap guru.  Saves me tons of time an effort of having to research the numbers.

Exactly. It's not his fault that he's a grumpy old codger, but at least he knows his shit****...

Exactly. It's not his fault that he's a grumpy old codger, but at least he knows his shit********...

I resemble this remark half the time too, LOL. 

Sometimes I just have those old man days and nothing is going to help me feel better.

MikeD is making a lot of sense on this thread.
He and I dont always see eye to eye on matters, but his take on it here hits the spot.

Now to Old Lion......

A winner never gives up.  They dont let a bad play or a bad game or even a bad season sway them.  They dont let it effect what they do going forward.  They dont sit in the middle of the field and crying about how bad they suc.  They pick them selves up and try to figure out how to get better.

I could not have put it any better. Too many think winning is a after effect. It's not. It's a state of mind.
Your comment made me remember back in 1999 when I was coaching women's softball. We were playing in a Tournament a month before the State tournament to get ready. The Tourny was in Traverse City. We had traveled all the way up there for it and were in the finals, each team had lost one game so winner take all.
We were in the 7th and last inning, bottom of, we had a one run lead. Our opponents had runners on third and second, 2 outs. The batter hit an easy lazy pop fly into right field, our RF, who had literally made this easy catch a thousand times, settled under it..... the bal lhit the heal of her glove and dropped..... we lost by 1.
Our 3baseman, had put off leaving for a funeral by one day to play first, was deveasted. Our RF was devasted. Our entire team had to quickyl come to grips with havng the game won and the next second...lost.
We left a totally disheartened team, we took a week off from pratice and everyone got back together the following weekend for practice. We put the incident behind us.... worked hard.... got our heads back on straight.....
And 4 weeks after a dropped pop fly cost us a championship........
.... we dominated the entire State Tournament Class B Womens Division. Winning 5 games en route to the Championship by a total of 91 runs scored - 14 given up. That started that team on a State tournament tear that took us to Class A womens, finshing 2nd twice and 1st once in the next 3 years, finally to OPEN CLASS Womens, 2 State titles in 3 years. And numerous appearances in National titles tournaments from Class B to OPEN....... never won a National title.... but finished 3rd once and 2nd once.

Thats how winners react. They take a bad situation and use it to fuel their drive for some thing better.

Thanks for your comments and reviving that fond memory for me.

Thanks for your comments and reviving that fond memory for me.

Anytime. 

That actually comes from real life experiences for me as well.  I was not just trying to preach.  I wont bore everyone with the details but I have been on many teams that have won championships at various levels and some that have had those same crucshing defeats you mention.  Some of those teams that won had no business winning and conversely other that lost should have won blindfolded.  A certain level of talent is always needed, but in the end its about how they handle pressure and adversity that determines the final outcomes and future performances.