2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

17. Pittsburgh- Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tenn.

I would've taken cooper or minter, cooper because we're going to zone blocking scheme and minter because after the first round value really drops at that position, 2nd round is supposed to be for safeties and WR's.

Demolisher, u may say that now, but who is waiting in the wings after Troy?  This kid is in the same mold of Troy and just makes plays....they may not take him, but some team will b getting a stud for many yrs.

Lets hope Patterson could win us a Super Bowl, because he certainly wouldn't be re-signing. That's 100% . If your been annoyed with Wallace, you'd really hate Patterson when it comes to contract talk.

17. Pittsburgh- Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tenn.

I just got a chill!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjxkQXlCAfE

When have you ever seen a kid with that much size with moves in the open field like this kid???

When have you ever seen a kid with that much size with moves in the open field like this kid???

Wow, this kid is unreal ... I haven't seen that many Stop-n-Go's since living in Albuquerque. At the 1:45 mark he caught a td pass and hurdled in to the end zone like ol #86 in the Seahawk SB.  Really impressive .. catches inside, outside, under pressure .... covered .. kickoffs ... punt returns, heck, I'm tired just watching him !

... is there actually any WAY he Lasts til 17 ?


MoS 

I was just about to ask that Warrior. I certainly would not complain with Patterson, but I think they could really use Conner Vernon because he looks like he will develop into a team leader and captain.

We need playmakers on offence and defence this year and with the pass rushers off the board Patterson was the right choice IMO. Elam I really like but not at 17. Cooper I think people are overhyping him because of his athleticism and wouldn't pick him at 17.

Cooper I think people are overhyping him because of his athleticism and wouldn't pick him at 17.

Plus, the need for guard actually isn't as big as it is at WR. The first round should be reserved for difference makers - Colbert has been very good at picking difference makers since being here. Cooper can be that, sure, but so can Patterson.

.Kansas CityChiefs - Luke Joeckel, OT,TexasA&M

12:10   2.JacksonvilleJaguars -Bjoern Werner,DE,Florida St.

12:20   3.OaklandRaiders -Damontre Moore, DE, TexasA/M

12:30   4.PhiladelphiaEagles - Eric Fisher, OT,Central Michigan

12:40   5.DetroitLions - Chance Warmack, OG,Alabama

12:50   6.ClevelandBrowns - EzekielAnsah,DE, BYU

1: 00    7.ArizonaCardinals - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

1: 10    8.BuffaloBills – Geno Smith, QB, WV

1: 20    9.New YorkJets – Matt Barkley, QB, USC

1: 30    10.TennesseeTitans – DeMarcus Milliner, CB,Alabama

1: 40    11.San DiegoChargers – Star Lotulelei, DT,Utah

1: 50    12.MiamiDolphins - Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texans

2:00     13.TampaBayBuccaneers -Barkevious Mingo,DE, LSU

2:10     14.CarolinaPanthers - Sharrif Floyd, DT,Florida

2:20     15.New OrleansSaints - Dion Jordan, DE,Oregon

2:30     16.St. LouisRams - Lane Johnson, OT,Oklahoma

2:40     17.PittsburghSteelers - Cordarelle Patterson, WR,Tenn

2:50     18.DallasCowboys - Jonathan Hankins, DT,OhioState

3:00     19.New YorkGiants -  Zach Ertz - TE, Stanford

3:10     20.ChicagoBears - D.J. Fluker, OT,Alabama

3:20     21.CincinnatiBengals - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal

3:30     22.St. LouisRams (via Redskins) - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor

3:40     23.MinnesotaVikings - Sheldon Richardson, DT,Missouri

3:50     24.IndianapolisColts - Alex Okafor, OLB,Texas

4:00     25.SeattleSeahawks -Datone Jones,DE, UCLA

4:10     26.Green BayPackers - John Jenkins, DT, Georgia

4:20     27.HoustonTexans - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

4:30     28.DenverBroncos - Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

4:40     29.New EnglandPatriots - Tavon Austin,WR,WV

4:50     30.AtlantaFalcons - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU

5:00     31. San Fransisco Forty Niners - Johnathan Banks, CB,MississippiState

5:10     32.BaltimoreRavens - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU

 

RND 2:  PM -SAT

5:20     1.JacksonvilleJaguars - Xavier Rhodes, CB, FSU

5:30     2.Kansas CityChiefs - Mike Glennon, QB, NC St

5:40     3.PhiladelphiaEagles - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

5:50     4.DetroitLions - Matt Elam,   SS,Florida

6:00     5.CincinnatiBengals (viaOakland) - Alec Ogletree, LB,Georgia

6:10     6.ArizonaCardinals - Jonathan Cooper, OG,N Carolina

6:20     7.New YorkJets - Sean Porter, OLB,TexasA&M

6:30     8.TennesseeTitans - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

6:40     9.BuffaloBills - Arthur Brown, MLB,KansasState

6:50     10.MiamiDolphins - Robert Woods, WR, USC

7:00     11.TampaBayBuccaneers - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

7:10     12.CarolinaPanthers - Justin Hunter, WR,Tennessee

7:20     13.San DiegoChargers  Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers

7:30     14.St. LouisRams

7:40     15.DallasCowboys

7:50     16.PittsburghSteelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers select: Jonathon Cyprien, SS, Florida International

Elam and Minter off the board, you guys want playmakers.: Patterson, Cyprien.

'nuff said.

Who was picking for SF?  

Who was picking for SF?  

GMs
Arizona Cardinals - CardinalFloyd
Atlanta Falcons - RTTruth
Baltimore Ravens -
Buffalo Bills - Nosferatu
Carolina Panthers - YoungHawk
Chicago Bears - Amperrsand
Cincinnati Bengals - SPress
Cleveland Browns - TopDawg
Dallas Cowboys - CarolinaBarBQ (or Parman)
Denver Broncos - Trano
Detroit Lions - RTTruth
Green Bay Packers - Packers500
Houston Texans - WizardofOz
Indianapolis Colts - RTTruth
Jacksonville Jaguars - SPress
Kansas City Chiefs - Parman
Miami Dolphins - JD03phins
Minnesota Vikings - LaoJoe
New England Patriots - JD03phins
New Orleans Saints -
New York Giants - Lomo
New York Jets - Packers500
Oakland Raiders - TopDawg
Philadelphia Eagles - YoungHawk
Pittsburgh Steelers - NYbites
Saint Louis Rams - WizardofOz
San Diego Chargers -
Seattle Seahawks - BLStoker
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - LaoJoe
Tennessee Titans - Nosferatu
Washington Redskins - RTTruth

Terron Armstead might be the fastest riser at the combine- Mike Mayock.

The Pittsburgh Steelers select: Jonathon Cyprien, SS, Florida International

Love it!

send me your thoughts on round 3 guys.  We got two explosive players, one O one D, now I think take BPA, need depth at OLB, ILB, TE, CB.

 

 

No RBs taken yet? It's got to best avail. RB in the 3rd, unless there'sa huge run on them between picks.

No RBs taken yet? It's got to best avail. RB in the 3rd, unless there'sa huge run on them between picks.


No there were a few RB's taken, I belive Lattimore, Lacy, and Bernard are all off the board.

12:00   1.Kansas CityChiefs - Luke Joeckel, OT,TexasA&M

12:10   2.JacksonvilleJaguars -Bjoern Werner,DE,Florida St.

12:20   3.OaklandRaiders -Damontre Moore, DE, TexasA/M

12:30   4.PhiladelphiaEagles - Eric Fisher, OT,Central Michigan

12:40   5.DetroitLions - Chance Warmack, OG,Alabama

12:50   6.ClevelandBrowns - EzekielAnsah,DE, BYU

1: 00    7.ArizonaCardinals - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

1: 10    8.BuffaloBills – Geno Smith, QB, WV

1: 20    9.New YorkJets – Matt Barkley, QB, USC

1: 30    10.TennesseeTitans – DeMarcus Milliner, CB,Alabama

1: 40    11.San DiegoChargers – Star Lotulelei, DT,Utah

1: 50    12.MiamiDolphins - Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texans

2:00     13.TampaBayBuccaneers -Barkevious Mingo,DE, LSU

2:10     14.CarolinaPanthers - Sharrif Floyd, DT,Florida

2:20     15.New OrleansSaints - Dion Jordan, DE,Oregon

2:30     16.St. LouisRams - Lane Johnson, OT,Oklahoma

2:40     17.PittsburghSteelers - Cordarelle Patterson, WR,Tenn

2:50     18.DallasCowboys - Jonathan Hankins, DT,OhioState

3:00     19.New YorkGiants -  Zach Ertz - TE, Stanford

3:10     20.ChicagoBears - D.J. Fluker, OT,Alabama

3:20     21.CincinnatiBengals - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal

3:30     22.St. LouisRams (via Redskins) - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor

3:40     23.MinnesotaVikings - Sheldon Richardson, DT,Missouri

3:50     24.IndianapolisColts - Alex Okafor, OLB,Texas

4:00     25.SeattleSeahawks -Datone Jones,DE, UCLA

4:10     26.Green BayPackers - John Jenkins, DT, Georgia

4:20     27.HoustonTexans - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

4:30     28.DenverBroncos - Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

4:40     29.New EnglandPatriots - Tavon Austin,WR,WV

4:50     30.AtlantaFalcons - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU

5:00     31. San Fransisco Forty Niners - Johnathan Banks, CB,MississippiState

5:10     32.BaltimoreRavens - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU

 

RND 2:  PM -SAT

5:20     1.JacksonvilleJaguars - Xavier Rhodes, CB, FSU

5:30     2.Kansas CityChiefs - Mike Glennon, QB, NC St

5:40     3.PhiladelphiaEagles - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

5:50     4.DetroitLions - Matt Elam, SS,Florida

6:00     5.CincinnatiBengals (viaOakland) - Alec Ogletree, LB,Georgia

6:10     6.ArizonaCardinals - Jonathan Cooper, OG,N Carolina

6:20     7.New YorkJets - Sean Porter, OLB,TexasA&M

6:30     8.TennesseeTitans - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

6:40     9.BuffaloBills - Arthur Brown, MLB,KansasState

6:50     10.MiamiDolphins - Robert Woods, WR, USC

7:00     11.TampaBayBuccaneers - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

7:10     12.CarolinaPanthers - Justin Hunter, WR,Tennessee

7:20     13.San DiegoChargers - Logan Ryan, CB,Rutgers

7:30     14.St. LouisRams - Eddie Lacy, RB,Alabama

7:40     15.DallasCowboys - Larry Warford, Guard,Kentucky

7:50     16.PittsburghSteelers - Jonathon Cyprien, SS,FloridaInternational

8:00     17.New YorkGiants - Barrett Jones, OL,Alabama

8:10     18.ChicagoBears - Jordan Poyer, CB,Oregon St

8:20     19.WashingtonRedskins - Eric Reid, FS, LSU

8:30     20.MinnesotaVikings- Phillip Thomas, S,FresnoState

8:40     21.CincinnatiBengals - Giovani Bernard, RB, UNC

8:50     22.MiamiDophins (via Colts) - Kyle Long, OT,Oregon

9:00     23.Green BayPackers - Khaseem Greene, OLB,Rutgers

9:10     24.SeattleSeahawks - Jesse Williams, DT,Alabama

9:20     25.HoustonTexans - Jamar Taylor, CB,Boise St

9:30     26.DenverBroncos - Markus Wheaton, WR,Oregon St

9:40     27.New EnglandPatriots -Margus Hunt,DE, SMU

9:50     28.AtlantaFalcons - Marcus Lattimore, RB,South Carolina

10:00   29. San Fransisco Forty Niners – Niners, D.J. Swearinger, S,South Carolina

10:10   30.BaltimoreRavens - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

so I don't have to keep posting this chit, here is the link.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messag
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or just go to the main NFL board, thread is at the top, or on my profile, click on any of my posts for the LIGHTENING ROUND.

I was against the Santonio Holmes pick too.

Yeah, but he caught the game winner in the corner of the end zone for the SB win? And was the MVP of the SB. So did the Steelers really lose out on him? I would say no, they didn't. Sometimes it's the Steelers not willing to pay what a player is worth also.....at any position. WR seems to their big problem and has been for years now. Starting with Burress. Who also played well for the Giants. And shooting youself by accident is not exactly a major offense in my book. Even though he was sent to prison, I think any major sports athlete has to be ready to protect themselves nowadays. I think it's one of the stupidest laws on the books. I don't think theres any question the Steelers have major issues this year. Especially, if you believe all of what the media says. It really is like a rebuilding year. They are over the cap and have to relpace and cut alot of players. And some of the good ones are 1 year older. They HAVE to have good drafts to compete.

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If u want a true football player that is a way better player/person than Rainey look in the 5th round or so for Mr Chris Thompson out of FSU....kid was electric until his injury....hes a home run threat and doesnt go down easy....just benched 225-21 reps

Looks like we got mixed revies on Patterson. I saw him play early and mid season, he was dyanmic. He will improve ST and add depth to WR. Finding another Jerry RIce ain't happening, all these WR's are divas, minus Fitz and Megatron.  When I thought about it, why did the Steelers suck the second half? Ben getting hurt and no explosion on the offense. DeCastro will be better now healthy, slide Beachum over to LG, I think Cooper was a luxury pick and Patterson would help the team more.  After watching the Michelin Man Warmack plod down the 40 yard dash, bb is right, Cooper will probably be the better pro. Don't forget Warmack was next to Kujo, FLuker, Jones, etc.., that 'bama line was awesome, but maybe it was because they were all good NFL caliber OL playing in the NCAA, think about it.

At some point RB is on the table, I have to see how the draft flows. LB is something I might look into, and TE if he is BPA.  I think the Steelers are good on the OL, 4 of their projected starters are first or second rounders. I also will see how the CB's come off the board, not sure what is going on with the Keenan Lewis situation, have not followed it as closely as I would have liked.  And I think Wallace is toast, gone, see ya, but Mendenhall I don't know if the open  market will serve him well, he may be back, but I am not counting on it. That fumble in the SuperBowl really ticked me off, more or less cost us the game, was the huge turning point, along with the Raji pick.

I wouldn't pass up a chance to solidify the o-line. I don't know if Gilbert is athletic enough for zone blocking, if our buddy Armstead is there in the 3rd when you pick snatch him up, I'm not just basing this on his 40 time he had a good shrine game, and was very fluid in the skills part of the combine.

Wow...Austin and Goodwin both w 4.25 in the 40....stock is rising

<----------- this kid and Tavon Austin both ran 4.25 40's and sub 1.5 10 yard splits. Tavon has got larger hands though.

What's the word on Marcus Davis 6-3 233 ran a 4.40 flat and has a 1.6 10 yard split and rather large hands at 10.28?

Justin Hunter is 6-4 197 and ran 4.41 40 and a 1.57 10 yard split with 9.45 hands.

I'd rather they draft a 6'3/6'4 WR running a 4.5 then a 5'8' 4.25 guy.