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Late postseason a gamble baseball will eventually lose

NEW YORK -- Everybody knows the problem.

Push baseball back into late October, there's a bigger chance of bad weather. Push it into November, and the chances go up again.

The decision to push the postseason this late into the year comes with the threat of rain or possibly worse. (AP)  
The decision to push the postseason this late into the year comes with the threat of rain or possibly worse. (AP)  
As colleague Mike Freeman said just after baseball wisely postponed Game 6 of the American League Championship Series on Saturday night, they're playing with fire -- or rain.

At least baseball officials had the sense to call Saturday's game early, and at least the forecast for the next couple of days in New York doesn't include any more rain. There was no reason to try to play Saturday, risking delays, horrible playing conditions and maybe something like what happened in Game 5 of last year's World Series.

Now they play Game 6 on Sunday, they play Game 7 if needed on Monday, and they still start the World Series on schedule Wednesday night. Saturday's rainout could end up benefitting the Angels, but it's not a disaster for anyone, except perhaps the television people who didn't want to program a Game 7 against Monday Night Football.

This one wasn't a disaster. The next one could be.

Or the one after that.

Push the postseason later and later, and the weather becomes more and more of a problem.

And the worst thing for baseball is that it's a problem without a good solution.

Couldn't they take all these extra off days out of the postseason? Sure, but not if you want the World Series to start on a Wednesday. The TV people insisted on a Wednesday start for better ratings, and baseball agreed. Don't count on them changing it back to Saturday.

Couldn't they shorten the first round from best-of-5 to best-of-3? Not likely. There's been more of a push to lengthen it to seven games than to shorten it to three.

Couldn't they start the regular season earlier? Then you run into weather problems in all the northern cities in March, instead of in a few cities in November.

Couldn't they shorten the regular season? With the average attendance at 30,000 a game, you show me an owner who will be willing to give up any home dates. And show me a player who will take a pay cut to play fewer games.

How about scheduling doubleheaders? Same answer. With 30,000 average attendance in ballparks that hold about 40,000, you show me where it makes financial sense to play two games for one admission. Besides, with 21st century attention spans, you show me a fan who is willing to sit through two games in one day.

But if you're not going to crunch the off days out of the postseason, and you're not going to shorten any of the series, and you're not going to start the regular season earlier, and you're not going to shorten the regular season, and you're not going to schedule doubleheaders ...

Then you're going to get a lot more postseason postponements (and a lot more columns about postseason postponements!).

Perhaps they could start the regular season just half a week earlier, beginning on a Wednesday or Thursday instead of on a Sunday night. Then they could end the season at midweek, too, starting the playoffs a few days earlier and removing enough off days to bring the World Series forward by one week.

Perhaps, except so far baseball has shown little interest in such a move.

A few more nights like Saturday, or a few nights a lot worse than Saturday, and maybe that interest would increase.

The facts are simple.

In 1968, Game 7 of the World Series was played on Oct. 10. In 1987, Game 7 was played on Oct. 25. A Game 7 this year would be on Nov. 5, and the preliminary schedule for next year would place it on Nov. 4.

Average rainfall in New York in October is 3½ inches. Average rainfall in New York in November is 4 inches.

It's no different in Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago or any other northern city. Even in Southern California, there's a lot bigger chance of November rain than October rain, although out there we're talking an 8/10ths of an inch average in November, as opposed to a quarter of an inch in October.

Don't even ask what happens if the Twins, with their new open-air stadium, make the World Series again. Good luck finishing that World Series before spring training begins.

At least Saturday it was just rain, a storm that just as easily could have postponed a game in July.

One of these times, it's going to be a snowstorm that settles in and makes the field unplayable for a week.

We know that's what we're heading for. Everybody knows it.

And baseball still doesn't have a good solution.

 
For more from Danny Knobler, check him out on Twitter: @DKnobler
 

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October 25, 2009 4:51 pm

Let's just forget all the semantics about how off-days effect fans, what days are better for TV ratings and how lengthy waits effect the teams involved. The biggest thing that most people are missing is that 162 games are played under certain weather conditions (let's say 150 for arguments sake since we have rain-outs, poor weather up north, etc.) and the final 4-7 games are played under differ ...(more)

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October 25, 2009 8:11 am
Another thing is that all the off days affects the way the game is played.  First, teams with only three strong starting pitchers get to re-set their rotations most of the time, giving them an advantage.  Second, for position players, baseball is meant to be played regularly - on a daily basis.  Teams that sweep their division series end up playing 3 games in 11 days.  That can ...(more)
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October 25, 2009 10:05 am
Knobler points to the fact that Game 7 could go up against Monday Nigh football. But what about Game 6? It's going up against Sunday Night Football. And who's playing in that? The Giants. This is a disaster for baseball.

Baseball has to start the season earlier. And if weather is a concern all northern cities should start on the
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October 24, 2009 10:50 pm
Kind of what the last guy said, but I don't think the people who replied understood.  They should schedule Saturdays as day-night double headers.  They play this now once in a while and there's no issues.  Plenty of time to get people out and still collect money and tickets.  Day games could have kid promotions, night games with adult promotions, or whatever.  They could e ...(more)
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October 25, 2009 8:58 am
It's not just the chance of more rain/snow that everyone mentioned, but the declining temperature as we get later into the year.  We are seeing the most important games being decided in weather that is usually too cold for baseball to be played at its highest level.  I was at game 1 of the ALCS where with the wind chill it was in the low 30s which no doubt had an effect on the ...(more)
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October 24, 2009 9:09 pm
Who says that doubleheaders will be two for ones? Just sell the tickets seperately.
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October 25, 2009 10:20 am

The problem with websites like this is that writers like Knobler have to produce something just about each day.  So when Game 6 of a LCS is rained out, Knobler is compelled to write a column about MLB making the right decision, as if they've never made one in its 125 year os so history. And then I'm compelled to weigh in.  Its a vicious cycle and I'm harldy vicious ...(more)

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October 25, 2009 2:27 am

In a season in the not too distant future, the World Series will not be finished. The World Champion of baseball will be "vacant". 

Major League Baseball has made the bold decision to stare Mother Nature in the eye and tell her she is irrelevant.  MLB has decided that the weather will never dare challenge baseball.  Really?

The obvious example is ...(more)

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October 25, 2009 11:08 am
Cut out interleague play. It's ludicrous to begin with. That buys an extra couple weeks. Back to a 150-game schedule. So personal stats drop off. Oh well. I don't know how it would affect revenues for the stadiums/cities to lose those 8 to 10 home games though.

If the major concern is money and ratings for the World Series, it seems like a no-brainer.

A neutral site Wor
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October 25, 2009 2:14 pm
Why not play the World Series in a protected or warm weather stadium that bids for the privilege?  They do it in the NFL for the Super Bowl.

That way no team has a home field advantage.  When you've made it as far as the Series, regular season record should not give you an advantage anyway. The best team wins. Sure the fans would have to travel to the games. But the average
...(more)
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October 24, 2009 9:51 pm
This is a big part of the problem...

Because of first-round sweeps and all the off days built into the playoff schedule, the Angels and Yankees have both played eight games in 20 days since the regular season ended Oct. 4.

Come on...this is crazy.  I do
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October 25, 2009 3:28 pm
Get rid of the WBC, which is a waste of time anyway, and start the season the last Sunday in March. Then you'll still have the World Series ending before Halloween.
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Since:Jan 26, 2007

October 25, 2009 10:30 am
Do we really need a 162 games to detirmine who the best teams are? I know the owner$ will never go for it but Baseball in April and after August isn't pure or how it was intended to play.
Reputation:98
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Since:Sep 2, 2006

October 25, 2009 10:24 am
There is more of a threat of rain during the summer. It rains less in October and November than the summer. It's just colder, that's all. The whole point of Knoblers article is retarded.
Reputation:87
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October 25, 2009 7:39 pm
I thought global warming was supposed to fix this problem of cold weather playoffs.
 
 
 
 
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